Troilus and Cressida - /lit/ (#24535925) [Archived: 412 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/10/2025, 2:57:22 AM No.24535925
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What am I in for Shakespeare bros?
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 3:05:40 AM No.24535950
>>24535925 (OP)
Confusion and probably disappointment, possibly the pleasure of enjoying and/or understanding a work that most people are uninterested in.
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 3:11:48 AM No.24535971
>>24535950
why is this one underrated?
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 9:48:18 AM No.24536651
>>24535971
It confuses people.
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 10:43:40 AM No.24536734
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>>24536651
Well, I'm not a retard so here I go!
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 6:23:36 PM No.24537478
>>24535925 (OP)
Troilus and Cressida is one of Shakespeare’s most complex, cynical, and intellectually rich plays—often categorized as a "problem play" because it defies clear genre boundaries. It mixes elements of tragedy, comedy, and history, and resists providing satisfying resolutions or moral clarity.
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 7:06:46 PM No.24537564
>>24537478
Thanks ChatGPT
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 7:15:24 PM No.24537585
>>24537478
i'll never understand why some shakespeare critics are so myopic about genrefaggotry
who cares what genre it belongs to and what does this have to do with the quality of the work?
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 7:25:53 PM No.24537622
>>24537585
bugmen are compelled to categorize
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 11:05:09 PM No.24538213
>>24537478
>—
"Please from now on, never use the character — again"
Come on, little indian boy. Do the bare minimum.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 11:42:17 PM No.24538313
I believe that people misunderstand this play to fit a modern agenda favoring irony. The characters don‘t seem shitty to me (other than Thersites) so much as worn down by their circumstances.
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 1:09:25 AM No.24538550
I didn’t like it. It seemed more like a pastiche of Homer than an appreciation. I liked the Iliad and I didn’t like that smarmy little faggot Shakespeare making mock of it.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 7:00:29 AM No.24539570
>>24536734
All the best
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 10:47:59 AM No.24539886
Suspect this hit harder when everyone was indeed banging whores and terrified of catching a dose.
>>24538550
>implying Shakespeare ever read Homer
It’s neither an appreciation or a pastiche, it literally has nothing to do with Homer. He’s just mining the mythology for something he can hang a play on, the same way he used Ovid in A Midsummer Nights Dream
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 10:52:03 AM No.24539893
>>24539886
>>implying Shakespeare ever read Homer
Chapman's translation already existed at this point.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 11:00:40 AM No.24539910
>>24539893
Shh, you’ll awaken the translation autists.
But Shakespeare never really borrows from Homer, even if he had read him, in the way he does from Ovid or Chaucer or the histories he used. Troilus isn’t even a character in the Iliad, and none of the characters in the play which are in the Iliad are drawn from the poem. Its more a response to Chaucer than Homer