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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 4:11:21 PM No.24537264
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If God is real then why are some people born with rare incurable genetically related illnesses that serve no purpose and hinder their ability to live their lives to their fullest potential but don't actually stop them from reproducing and passing on those genetic abnormalities to a new generation. Also why are do some kids get cancer and die
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 4:16:12 PM No.24537270
>>24537264 (OP)
You would benefit from narrowing this question down to specific conceptions of God. Because you would have a point if you’re referring to a notion of God such as the Christian one, but I fail to understand the logic of “suffering exists, therefore, God - as an agency designing the universe - must not”.
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 4:17:26 PM No.24537273
Because the world is ruled by Demiurge, who creates physical forms to trap us in our ignorance.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 4:18:58 PM No.24537275
>>24537264 (OP)
Off-topic dogshit
>>>/trash/
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 4:19:36 PM No.24537276
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>>24537264 (OP)
To teach humans to stop breeding with the beasts of the field.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 4:24:34 PM No.24537288
>>24537270
I'm not really talking about suffering per say. Because suffering could potentially serve a higher spiritual purpose. I'm talking about meaningless suffering that happens for virtually no apparent reason that i can perceive from my own perspective. And that also rises another question about which God I'm referring to (in this case the Christian one), because every believer has always believed that their God/Gods are the real ones and every other one is fake therefore only a small percentage of people throughout human history can have been right, or everyone us equally wrong
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 4:47:59 PM No.24537317
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>>24537288

Now that you are aware there are multiple gods what purpose does an explanation serve? Sure I can say my god simply designed a universe with meaningless suffering, not involved in the minutia of our lives, just the creation of the universe as a whole. But that's not verifiable. So what is the point?
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 4:55:57 PM No.24537331
>>24537264 (OP)
>MUH HIP HOP
>MUH HAVE TO BEG FOR PEOPLE TO EXPLAIN PHILOSOPHERS TO ME CUZ I DON'T READ
>MUH METAPHYSICS
>MUH CAN'T DO DIALECTIC AND CAN'T DEMONSTRATE
>MUH BEING
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 5:17:05 PM No.24537370
I've thought about this and I think the ancients had a better view of god. they thought he wasn't omnipotent, in fact there were multiple gods and they were feud between them. not one could just wipe the other one out. so the idea that god is omnipotent might be false, but he's just extremely strong. just not as strong to reverse the order of time and the underlying order. who created that is unknown.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 5:20:21 PM No.24537376
>>24537264 (OP)
There I'd an intellectually satisfying answer to this question, but it's not emotionally satisfying so it will never be accepted.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 5:24:21 PM No.24537382
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>>24537264 (OP)
This also doesnt support the claim of god's absence but proves that god is evil.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 5:27:38 PM No.24537389
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>>24537264 (OP)
not all gods are personal gods, op

the neoplatonist god, the deistic god and xenophanes's god are all impersonal gods
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 5:30:45 PM No.24537394
The material world being bad doesn't disprove god's existence. it just means that god is evil
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 5:31:49 PM No.24537400
>>24537394
or he's indifferent or impersonal
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 5:46:59 PM No.24537427
>>24537264 (OP)
Because gene is inherently egoistic. Its not god's work, but the gene itself using human medium to direct its will to keep living and keep everything alive.
Nobody got struck with autism out of nowhere, or diabetes, or down syndrome, or dwarfism, or cancer. All of them are hereditary, a genetical disorder, a fault; yet despite all of that characteristic, that they are a form of 'inherited' disease, you'll see kids getting cancer, young people getting diabetes, or even babies born with autism, why? Because their parents are egoistical, selfish, they know that they have a bloodline of genetical disease, a hereditary, yet they forced themselves to copulate instead of doing world a service by holding their own animalistic and ireational desire to mate, and in process they are not only destroying their own future genes but also their husbans/wife genes by infecting their offspring with those hereditary virus
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 6:05:59 PM No.24537455
>>24537394
The material world isn't bad. We are flawed, God isn't. If you perceive the world as flawed, the failure is in your perception.
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 6:16:48 PM No.24537466
>>24537455
>*gets some painful fatal crazy genetic disease on top of cancer*
your fault bro be careful next time
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 6:17:11 PM No.24537468
99.99% of people are too retarded to understand eternity. Atheists ask this brainlet question "le how can le suffering exist? checkmate god" as if a short life of suffering counts for anything compared with eternal bliss. Christians make the same mistake, since a Christian who actually behaves as if the soul exists and that it can be sufficiently imperilled to wind up in Hell are extremely rare and perhaps only exist among the Saints. Hume makes this point in Treatise on Human Nature
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 6:22:46 PM No.24537476
>>24537468
if god is omnipotent and good willing why does suffering exist? "it's nothing compared to what you're promised to get on fairly land bro" does not answer the question, it's just a loosely relevant retarded cope.
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 6:25:43 PM No.24537481
>>24537394
The "material world" isn't bad.
You're just evil.
All the life-haters will be purged. It's just giving them what they want.
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 6:28:40 PM No.24537485
>>24537481
>All the life-haters will be purged
How?
Were?
Stop seething impotently, that is not happening and it doesn't look like that is going to happen.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 6:36:49 PM No.24537504
>>24537264 (OP)
You presuppose that suffering is bad. Maybe it's good.
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 6:41:14 PM No.24537511
>>24537504
I hope you suffer.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 6:44:23 PM No.24537516
>>24537476
FUCK YOU GOD YOU MADE ME SUFFER FOR 20 YEARS ON EARTH VS 5000 YEARS IN HEAVEN YOU'RE EVIL
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 7:40:45 PM No.24537660
>>24537264 (OP)
Extreme Inbreeding, race mixing, polluting the environment, big pharma. aka so-called humans blaming god for what they did
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 7:50:57 PM No.24537683
>>24537394
the material world is good but incomplete. man is supposed to finish the job but it keeps acting like an animal instead of itself.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 8:51:15 PM No.24537852
>>24537466
I didn't say it was your fault for getting cancer. I said it was a failure of your perception to think that you getting cancer was a bad thing. Read, nigger.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 9:55:22 PM No.24538017
Reminder that you don’t need to believe in your religion to be religious. You’re just following a narrative system.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 10:01:13 PM No.24538042
Because we are fallen creatures. Death and disease *should* feel perfectly natural to us, but they somehow don't. Our soul knows something is wrong with our present condition.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 10:12:38 PM No.24538074
>>24537264 (OP)
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