Is reading philosophy useless if it has no meaningful impact or productive use in your life?
Does an enlightened mind help in any real sort of way?
>>24538441 (OP)an enlightened mind helps as far as… why not be enlightened
>>24538441 (OP)Everything is useless except productivity. Get back to work slave
>>24538441 (OP)any knowledge that is unused will fade away, spend years learning a language and never speak it? and it will vanish, For philosophy, just apply it when making decisions, should I goon all day? drink all day? stop my best friend from trooning out? fire this guy? hire this underwhelming poc for the culture?
>>24538441 (OP)no one reads philosophy because it's useful. either they study it as an abstract academic subject like modern professional philosophers in which case they get paid to teach it, or they have some kind of mental illness or compulsive thinking problems that makes them seek it out.
>>24538441 (OP)Philosophy requires a certain level of intelligence (or inability for self-illusion) before it provides value. When you realize that what you think you know is questionable, and that life lacks an intrinsic meaning, is when you can derive value from philosophy.
philosophy will not get you money and pussy so no. reading philosophy is a tool for a specific job. it's for people who are constantly bothered and cannot find serenity in their brains by the irrationality and ugliness of the world. masses do not seem to be suffering from it as they're completely satisfied by holding incomplete and contradictory views and following crude metaphysical systems as they live their lives.
>>24538441 (OP)It answers questions that everyone has and on the grounded level, this particular helps you with mental health, reducing your risk of losing your shit someday in your 30s because you've been believing some bullshit that you realized doesn't make sense, but that's about it.
You could well be lucky and never find yourself at the point where you have to question your life decision following something like this
>>24538574But chances are still there, depending on your autistic ass and intellectual capacity to dare to think about ideas on broader level. Learning the thought would just reduce the chances, nothing more really.
>>24538441 (OP)it's definently more useful then scrolling on 4chan
>>24538441 (OP)It will be useful in the next life.
Trust the plan
the thoughts that come in and go inside the mind of a plebian
Philosophy is for high-IQs, and it’s really only for intellectual enrichment.
>>24538441 (OP)It is just entertainment bro.
>>24538574Utopia means no need for labor
>>24538826>>24538441 (OP)Philosophy got me money and pussy so I can't relate
>>24538785I read philosophy because it's useful
>>24538815>When you realize that what you think you know is questionableBrainlet cope
Philosophy is useful if it challanges ANYTHING
Not because it makes you question the topic at hand, but because it gives you the idea that your foundation might be shaky.
Once you have gotten that chip, its all a matter of reading from men who has spent a lifetime of doubt, meaning they can write about something you will never experience, but the hard core of observation and extrapolation will still let you get gains from it.
>>24538441 (OP)>Is reading philosophy uselessYes. Preparing for death is useless in this life, strictly speaking. It has no mundane purpose as it is.
>>24540412Who told you that? Utopia simply means perfection, whether that perfection means you wageslaving or not is entirely dependent on who gets to define their society as a "utopia". If it's perfect, then it's perfect, and if you have an issue with the perfect society then maybe that's on you.
Aristotle said “all men by nature desire to know.” It’s pure intellectual enrichment; it might have some fringe benefits to your life but no more than any other cultured activity. People who think it will make you “wise” or that there’s a mystic vision pot of gold at the end are pseuds. Losing sleep over the principle of continuity in Plotinus, or worrying about whether Hegel emphasizes the universal to the detriment of the particular, or racking your brain trying to understand the Organon, will not make you wise or a mystic, but it is enriching.
>>24538441 (OP)If you've read Plato you wouldn't need to post such a retarded question
>>24538441 (OP)reading philosophy made me suicidal. it's a psyop by loosh farmers.
These are deep and worthwhile questions. Let’s break them down honestly.
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1. Is reading philosophy useless if it has no meaningful impact or productive use in your life?
If reading philosophy truly has zero impact on how you think, feel, or act, then yes — in a practical sense, it may be useless for you personally.
But that assumes philosophy is just information, and not something that shapes your worldview.
Philosophy is not meant to just sit in your head. It becomes meaningful when:
It changes how you interpret suffering or success (like Stoicism does).
It helps you make decisions when life is morally gray (ethics).
It reveals the flaws in your beliefs and makes you more rational.
It challenges your ego, identity, or assumptions (like Nietzsche or Sartre might).
It gives you frameworks for meaning in a meaningless-feeling world.
So: philosophy is only useless if you treat it as trivia instead of a tool. But when it’s internalized, it can deeply alter your internal landscape.
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2. Does an enlightened mind help in any real sort of way?
That depends on what we mean by "enlightened."
If you mean a person who:
Sees through ego or illusion,
Has clarity about life’s impermanence,
Is less reactive, more present, less grasping,
Then yes, an "enlightened" mind can have very real benefits:
Mental resilience in chaos.
Reduced suffering due to less attachment.
Clarity in decisions, because they're less emotionally clouded.
Better relationships, because ego is less dominant.
Peace, which is rare and valuable.
However, it doesn't make you rich, famous, or socially successful by default. It’s an inner wealth, not outer.
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TL;DR:
Philosophy is useless if you don’t apply it. It’s powerful if you let it reshape your thinking.
Enlightenment isn’t about knowing more — it’s about being less bound. That kind of mind is very helpful in a world full of distraction, pressure, and noise.
Would you say you’ve ever read philosophy that stirred something in you — even just once?
>>24541593Check it out another Platopseud.
>>24538445Genuinely asking, though I doubt you’ll answer, what kind of person needs other people to tell them about the world?
I genuinely don’t understand how people can think this is a worthwhile way to spend their time. Might as well read self-help and Jordan Peterson non-sense or watch diary of a ceo videos. The shit just seems to silly to me.
So honestly, can you tell me what is “enlightening” about philosophy?
>>24541611>But that assumes philosophy is just information, and not something that shapes your worldview.If reading anything after the age of 6 impacts your worldview you may not be all that intelligent.
>>24538441 (OP)No, not really. I lived in a room just like yours plus a bunch of crts. I used to read tons of philosophy and history books. None of it stuck. reading schlock did more to motivate me, mostly by having a hobby that felt good. It helps with general trajectory but not day to day stuff all that often, but sometimes . I don't remember much of the arguments or who made them but moral philosophy does help with kid stuff. I now have two kids and work as a process engineer in a manufacturing plant.
The moral philosophy stuff helps with vague ideas while dealing with how to raise a kid .
Check it out another state educated Hylic
>>24542089>>24542093Personally, no, I'm not a state educated anything. I didn't graduate from high school, I only got pushed through schooling because of no kid left behind. I got a GED, failed out of a handful of community colleges. Worked in manufacturing for a decade and was competent enough to work my way to decent roles at every job I've had. I'm an engineer in title but not training. I can still usually work circles around degree holders and floor operators. I figured schooling was a break washing factory but that was probably at least partially a cope. I still think it's mostly a scam, even when free, but I see value in it I didn't used to.
>>24538441 (OP)I became pic rel around the same age and decided to pivot a lot of that time to crypto. It's a boorish scene to say the least, but I have to say that I sorted out my money woes, for which I am thankful.
Being broke is charming when you're young, but the world is a cold place and you have to save yourself when you're older, because no one is coming to save you. That's what I've learned. That and take care of your teeth.
>>24542116legit too based, even the teeth shit. I worked at a foreign/independent theater for a few years. The thing I heard most from the 80 year olds that would come was "I wish I'd taken care of my teeth." I left the major city I grew up in to live in a city I could buy a home and raise a family in.
I thought thinking about money was disgusting and people changed it were evil, but disregarding your family's well being for ideals you formed while still safe and unaffected now seems much more disgusting
>>24538441 (OP)I think of philosophy as generally contrary to dogma, and yes it has been helpful to me in the practical sense. I think of it as adjacent to comedy, at least in the sense of Seneca at his best. At least I don't have a particularly severe sense of it, and enjoy good living in the ordinary sense.
>>24542116When I was in my 20s I didn't live like that, and even in my 60 still don't.
>>24538780>you need to read le greeks to know not to spend entire days masturbating and doing drugsaverage philosophy fan right here
>>24539106more useful than scrolling /v/, but not boards like /fit/ and /pol/
>>24538441 (OP)i read it as a hobby. i don't care if it's worthless knowledge
>>24538780Prove philosophically, without arbitrary premises, that you should not goon all day.
>>24538441 (OP)It changed my life, I don't behave like a faggot chasing next sports car
