Books on antisocial religions - /lit/ (#24538472) [Archived: 377 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/11/2025, 12:40:44 AM No.24538472
Mahakala
Mahakala
md5: 360c1baf6f4aaa75de61c83e648c6590🔍
It's plainly obvious that most major religions were created as a means of social control, rendering the majority of mankind into domesticated livestock. It seems that the most true ones would be the ones that are the most arbitrary about society and ethics, with deities behaving only like animals higher in the food chain than mankind, or with spiritual practices that only exist for the sake of making oneself superior to others. Give me some books talking about these sorts of religions.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 12:44:41 AM No.24538484
Well, in my opinion you are correct somewhat. I don't believe they were originally created for control, rather to give people meaning and to escape the fear of death, nihilism, etc. But as it grew, it did come to be used for control.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 12:45:26 AM No.24538487
>>24538484
Ten Commandments, Law of Manu, Confucianism are just outright social control.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 12:47:29 AM No.24538496
>>24538487
Telling you child not to smack their sibling is a form of social control but I'm pretty sure you wouldn't argue against that
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 12:47:48 AM No.24538498
>>24538484
>give people meaning and to escape the fear of death
Have you considered that the invention of the concept of hell gave people the fear of death? Most animistic religions believe in transmigration of souls or something similar.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 12:49:13 AM No.24538502
>>24538487
>there was no such thing as judaism before the 10 commandments
Damn /lit/ really never reads books
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 12:49:58 AM No.24538504
>>24538496
There is no reason for a god to care which is why it's clearly mandmade and used as control for the masses. Even if a god cares it's more likely they're a sort of human farmer that wishes to predate upon fattened and weakened human souls, which doesn't disprove the existence of much more arbitrary gods.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 12:51:08 AM No.24538509
>>24538502
>the only source that claims judaism existed before the hellenic age is the hebrew bible
Damn /lit/ only reads one book
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 12:53:48 AM No.24538513
>>24538509
Bro has never heard of muslims lmfao
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 12:57:11 AM No.24538521
>>24538498
Still looking for the part where he mentioned hell.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 12:58:29 AM No.24538525
>>24538513
>there is no source besides the koran that demonstrates the hanif existed before the hellenic age
/lit/ is full of literal 80iq congolese pygmy retards
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 12:59:52 AM No.24538527
>>24538525
Wewlad those goalposts flew
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 1:00:17 AM No.24538528
>>24538472 (OP)
Read or listen to Osho.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 1:04:32 AM No.24538537
>>24538527
There is no contemporary source in existence that confirms the practice of any monotheistic Abrahamic religion from before Alexander the Great was born. It is in all likelihood a completely fictionalized history from an Hellenic period cult. A couple references to Jahveh exist but not in any clear reference to a monotheistic religion.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 1:04:53 AM No.24538538
>>24538509
Literally takes 14 seconds to jewgle this:

Extrabiblical evidence and the pre-Hellenistic period:

Merneptah Stele (circa 1208 BCE):This Egyptian inscription is the earliest extra-biblical mention of "Israel" as a people group in Canaan. While it does not describe the religion in detail, it confirms the existence of a distinct entity called Israel in the region during the late Bronze Age.

Kuntillet 'Ajrud (9th century BCE):Inscriptions from this site in the Sinai Peninsula mention "Yahweh of Samaria and Asherata," suggesting a religious practice that, in some circles, included the worship of both Yahweh and a goddess,according to the World History Encyclopedia. This points to a more complex and potentially polytheistic religious landscape than later biblical accounts might suggest.

Mesha Stele (9th century BCE):This Moabite inscription describes King Mesha's victory over Israel and mentions Yahweh as the god of the Israelites. This is considered the oldest extra-biblical reference to Yahweh as the god of the Israelites.

Elephantine Papyri (5th century BCE):These documents from a Jewish community in Egypt shed light on religious practices that include the presence of a temple dedicated to Yahweh (also referred to as Yahu). They also reveal a community whose religious practices were not entirely consistent with the Deuteronomic law as understood in later periods, suggesting a more fluid form of "Judaism" in the Persian era,according to Wikipedia.

Arad Inscriptions (8th-6th centuries BCE):These inscriptions from a fortress in Judah reveal the use of the divine name Yahweh and offer insights into religious practices within ancient Israelite sanctuaries, notes Oxford Research Encyclopedias.

I will wait while you deboonk all of these using at least one (1) full sentence each.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 1:08:25 AM No.24538545
>>24538538
None of those are "Judaism." Did you even read the entries or did you just copy and paste from ChatGPT?
>mention "Yahweh of Samaria and Asherata," suggesting a religious practice that, in some circles, included the worship of both Yahweh and a goddess,according to the World History Encyclopedia. This points to a more complex and potentially polytheistic religious landscape than later biblical accounts might suggest.
>They also reveal a community whose religious practices were not entirely consistent with the Deuteronomic law as understood in later periods, suggesting a more fluid form of "Judaism" in the Persian era
You literally posted sources talking about Yahweh temples outside of Jerusalem and one that features Yahweh's goddess wife
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 1:08:43 AM No.24538546
>>24538537
Well this was a fun thread
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 1:09:48 AM No.24538551
>>24538545
>"not real judaism"
Lmao
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 1:12:54 AM No.24538560
>>24538551
It is categorically not judaism and the only reason it's referred to as "judaism" by wikipedia or whatever the fuck is because Abrahamism enjoyers would suicide bomb them if they didn't. You posted sources talking about God's wife and temples to God in foreign countries. These are all form before the "Israelites" became dominated by an absolute monotheistic priesthood during the Hellenic period.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 1:14:30 AM No.24538566
>>24538560
There's also no evidence here whatsoever for Moses, Mosaic law, or Abraham, who may well have been complete fabrications by Hellenic period cultists.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 1:15:55 AM No.24538572
>>24538560
You're unironically being more legalistic than a jew with your definitions here; but I'm sure you've picked up on some nuance that no one else has noticed in the past 3000 years. Trust me you're special little buddy
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 1:17:26 AM No.24538578
>>24538566
Provide me with evidence that any named individual existed in 1400 BC.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 1:19:55 AM No.24538585
>>24538572
Highly transparent bait post, no one with two brain cells to rub together would try to claim that sources confirming Israelites were polytheistic and blatantly violated the supposed Deuteronomic Code as evidence that judaism existed before the Hellenic period. There is no contemporary evidence of a monotheistic Abrahamic religion from before the Hellenic period.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 1:21:05 AM No.24538587
>>24538585
Read the reply again because you obviously didn't learn anything from it
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 1:21:11 AM No.24538588
Love that every slightly interesting OP post regarding religion has to be immediately derailed by seething Abrahamics
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 1:22:23 AM No.24538591
>>24538588
Hello again
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 1:23:57 AM No.24538594
>>24538502
>>24538513
>>24538527
>>24538538
>>24538551
>>24538572
>>24538587
>makes a stupid claim
>called out on it
>posts copy pasted evidence disproving himself
>copes and seethes and whatabouts hoping the smart guy will just get frustrated and give up
discussion here is at an all time low in terms of quality
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 1:25:09 AM No.24538598
>>24538594
>abandons the argument, tags several posts and gives a play by play begging for validation
You're right, I'm the one that's seething
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 1:25:45 AM No.24538599
>>24538472 (OP)
You seem to be suggesting that Buddhism is "antisocial". alright. don't give alms then (something that the Buddha prescribes in the Pali canon).
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 1:40:32 AM No.24538627
>>24538528
>https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/12/abuse-rajneesh-cult-children-communes

Not repressive at all! Muh heckin based egalitarian spirituality
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 1:43:04 AM No.24538632
>>24538598
>tags
Go back
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 1:44:48 AM No.24538641
>>24538599
>tibetan god
>pali canon
holy retard
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 1:45:51 AM No.24538648
>>24538504
The bible gives reasons. You might as well say that there is also no reason for a parent to care about what their child does. If you think so then try to come up with one. Your argument is non-existent and your thought is not matured.
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 1:46:59 AM No.24538656
>>24538594
>bro never heard of muslims though
>...
>wewlad those goalposts flew
Every segment of this argument is beyond parody
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 1:49:36 AM No.24538668
>>24538632
Hello again
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 1:50:22 AM No.24538672
>>24538641
Nobody cares abt mountain chinks.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 1:51:02 AM No.24538675
>>24538599
>alright. don't give alms then
Love that this post has a smug tone while being completely retarded
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 1:51:38 AM No.24538677
>>24538656
>contributes nothing
Your statement is truer than you think given that you're now a part of the argument
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 1:52:49 AM No.24538681
>>24538472 (OP)
Only domesticated livestock would make a post like this
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 1:52:54 AM No.24538682
>>24538675
You aren't even a Buddhist.
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 1:54:12 AM No.24538688
>>24538599
Tibetans don't give a fuck about the Pali canon doofus. They're up in the mountains meditating on mandalas and destroyer deities to give them magic powers
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 1:55:05 AM No.24538692
>>24538688
>>24538672
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 1:55:36 AM No.24538693
>>24538472 (OP)
>It seems that the most true ones would be the ones that are the most arbitrary about society and ethics, with deities behaving only like animals higher in the food chain than mankind, or with spiritual practices that only exist for the sake of making oneself superior to others.
You seem to have arrived at this notion by looking at religion and deciding that the opposite must be the truth. While it is reasonable to note that religious practices that are good for social cohesion tend to be the ones that are successfully perpetuated and this is likely not a function of any sort of objective cosmological or moral truth to them, to take the position that cosmological truth must therefore exist in an opposite position based seemingly on nothing but contrariansim is wildly illogical. You appear to be an idiot.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 1:57:16 AM No.24538697
>>24538693
/thread
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 1:57:22 AM No.24538698
>>24538672
>uhm well if you think tibetans are so cool maybe start giving alms like the pali canon says goy
>...
>ok but nobody even cares abt mountain chinks
Literally this >>24538656 again. Do you people get some kind of thrill out of being wrong on the internet? Is this the standards of bait posting?
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 1:58:41 AM No.24538701
>>24538599
Tibetan "monks" are literally sorceror lords that dwell in mountain palaces demand "alms" from local villages in the form of feudal tribute. They're exactly what he's asking about
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:00:51 AM No.24538706
>>24538693
>based seemingly on nothing but contrariansim
You seem to be an idiot because he implies that the only way one could assume a god could behave must be based on how species behave to each other in the animal kingdom. He's strange but not wildly illogical.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:03:29 AM No.24538714
>>24538706
Animal-God theory isn't as deep as you think it is.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:05:58 AM No.24538720
>>24538693
>>24538714
>OP is just contrarian and wildly illogical
>...
>ok but animal-god is like not as deep as you think o algo
Are you guys allergic to good faith arguments or something? Seriously wtf is this
>>24538656
>>24538698
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:09:03 AM No.24538725
>>24538537
>North America looked different 1000 yrs ago therefore North America did not exist at the time
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:09:54 AM No.24538729
>>24538472 (OP)
>deities behaving only like animals higher in the food chain than mankind
That's most dhammic religions to some degree
>spiritual practices that only exist for the sake of making oneself superior to others
Some forms of tantrism are basically just focused on getting supernatural powers in this life or the next. The agamas are used by many, but you'd probably be better off reading some kind of summary. A lot of forms of hinduism are just focused on getting a nice afterlife as a god.

Also your question isn't really about antisocial religions. Cults that committed mass suicide are the only truly "antisocial" religions
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:10:10 AM No.24538730
>>24538578
Awfully quiet on this one, lol
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:11:18 AM No.24538732
>>24538594
>the smart guy
holy cringe
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:12:36 AM No.24538733
>>24538725
>comparing a landmass to religious movements
Is it Act Retarded on /lit/ Day and no one told me?
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:14:55 AM No.24538739
>>24538720
>complains about bad faith arguments
>deliberately posts a misquote that's longer than the post he's referring to
Thread is over.
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:15:04 AM No.24538740
>>24538729
Highly interesting post. If you'd like to share more about hindu deities, tantra, or suicide cults please do. Also one could argue that artificially inducing a suicide cult in a troublesome group could be prosocial to another group. The ultimate form of social control.
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:15:58 AM No.24538743
>>24538733
>North American society looked different 1000 yrs ago therefore North American society did not exist at the time
Does this suit your autism better?
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:16:08 AM No.24538744
>>24538730
>asks a dumb question
>"awfully quiet on this one hehehe"
Beyond parody
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:17:59 AM No.24538751
>>24538744
>beyond parody is my favorite phrase I learned from Reddit
>still has no argument
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:20:10 AM No.24538755
>>24538743
North American society didn't exist 1000 years ago moron. It wasn't called "North America" and was so entirely different as to be unrecognizable, and there is no continuity between North Americans of today so yes, North American society as we know it today did not exist 1000 years ago. Knowing that this argument is being made to claim that polytheistic canaanite religion is the same as hellenic judaism just makes it 1000x stupider than it already was.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:21:37 AM No.24538758
>>24538755
>North American society as we know it today
May Allah have mercy on you, how can a person be this dense
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:21:52 AM No.24538760
>thread is derailed by a seething abrahamite that is wrong about every single thing he's posted
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:22:51 AM No.24538765
>>24538755
Abos have been building societies on the NA continent for 15k years or longer.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:23:20 AM No.24538767
>>24538502
There is no evidence the Ten Commandments story even happened or that Moses existed
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:23:52 AM No.24538770
>>24538760
Hello again
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:25:32 AM No.24538775
>>24538767
>>24538578
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:25:37 AM No.24538777
>>24538765
He didn't say aboriginals or natives
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:27:14 AM No.24538783
>>24538578
>>24538775
Are you retarded? There are multiple first hand sources of named individuals pre-dating 1400 BC
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:29:10 AM No.24538791
>>24538783
Go ahead
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:29:11 AM No.24538792
>>24538578
Idrimmi, although that was 1450s about. There's a trade agreement, and a peace treaty contemporary to him. If moses truly parted the red seas and did all the miracles attributed to him there would be some contemporary record of it
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:29:40 AM No.24538796
>>24538791
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_literature
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:30:22 AM No.24538798
>>24538792
A contemporary record recorded by who? The stadium audience of Levantines who were watching the event?
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:31:28 AM No.24538803
>>24538796
LMFAO
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:31:54 AM No.24538806
>>24538798
>nothing is real if you like choose not to believe your own eyes bro
The Hebrew Bible doesn't predate the Hellenic period, get over it
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:33:06 AM No.24538809
The quality of discussion on this board is so low, especially around religion. It's just nonstop seething and coping from third worlders.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:36:41 AM No.24538819
>>24538798
>by who?
For the parting of the red sea specifically? Probably military records talking about losing large #'s of men, histories from surviving witnesses, etc. There would definitely be records about the Nile turning to blood (considering basically everyone in egypt lived and relied on the nile) and three days of total darkness.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:37:33 AM No.24538824
>>24538798
>someone probably forged a fictional dry account of a diplomatic agreement and intentionally buried it where it would wait preserved for archaeologists
>also everything talked about in the bible which doesn't predate the 3rd century bc dead sea scrolls 100% happened right back to the talking snake
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:41:15 AM No.24538840
>thread on religion has devolved to the point where anons are claiming that no primary sources can ever be trusted and that polytheistic semitic religion is the same as second temple judaism because continents exist or something
so fucking bleak
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:44:07 AM No.24538850
>>24538809
If only they were as enlightened as us, fellow Redditor
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:45:16 AM No.24538856
>>24538840
>primary sources can ever be trusted
No, the larger issue is that there are no primary sources for these things, the hebrew bible is a tertiary source written centuries after many of the events it's describing
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:46:09 AM No.24538860
>>24538819
If these records do exist, what would make them more reliable than the biblical narrative?
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:47:43 AM No.24538862
>>24538840
>this person looked extremely different 30 years ago therefore they did not exist at the time
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:49:19 AM No.24538870
>>24538860
The fact that they're contemporary and the bible isn't. Was there a social outreach program to get people with down's syndrome to use /lit/ or something?
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:50:48 AM No.24538872
>>24538870
This guy has no idea how history was recorded lmao
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:51:21 AM No.24538876
>>24538862
>canaanites that worshipped yahweh and his wife are the same as the absolute monotheistic religion that another abolute monotheistic religion that my absolute monotheistic religion is based on because if it isn't then it means my religion is made up and I'm stupid
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:51:58 AM No.24538879
>>24538876
>nigger gibberish
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:53:08 AM No.24538882
>>24538876
Are you familiar with the word Elohim at all?
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:54:05 AM No.24538885
>>24538862
To be clear this individual is using this as a metaphor to claim that polytheism is the same as second temple judaism
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:54:31 AM No.24538886
>>24538885
>>24538882
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:55:41 AM No.24538889
>>24538885
>implying that Christianity is a product of 2nd temple judaism
nobody was arguing this
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:55:50 AM No.24538890
>>24538879
>>24538882
You would have an easier time claiming that Second Temple Judaism is a form of syncretized Zoroastrianism than claiming that it's the same as the polytheism practiced by pre-Judaic Semites
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:57:14 AM No.24538895
>>24538889
Why would anybody not argue this?
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 2:59:04 AM No.24538900
>>24538860
For one thing (assuming we found the original copies of records talking about this) we could conclusively date these to be contemporary to the events. A source is much more reliable if it's written at the same time things took place. We don't have any original copies of the pentateuch so for all we know it was written or heavily modified centuries after moses died.

For another thing (even if we found a non-contemporary copy of a source) having multiple sources written by different people strengthens their credibility.

Also, having a large portion of your army destroyed by god makes you look bad (and makes the ancient israelites look good.) It would make sense for the israelites to fabricate a story that makes them look powerful. The egyptians would have no reason to make up a military defeat though
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 3:00:24 AM No.24538902
>>24538706
>the only way one could assume a god could behave must be based on how species behave to each other in the animal kingdom
But what possible evidence could that theory be based on? It has a sample size of zero.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 3:01:28 AM No.24538903
>>24538502
>>24538513
>>24538551
>>24538578
>>24538599
>>24538889
This is an AI bot that's been programmed to only say incorrect things
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 3:03:14 AM No.24538907
>>24538900
Better argument, but this is still only half the story. What is the benefit of Egyptians recording the exodus, or anyone else for that matter? Why would anyone (besides Israelites) in the middle east care to record and immortalize this event if it offered them no obvious benefit, assuming they were even nearby enough to witness it?
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 3:04:16 AM No.24538909
>>24538903
>everyone that disagrees with me is the same person
Schizo's rule. Thanks for the laugh
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 3:04:16 AM No.24538910
>>24538902
All theories relating to the existence of deities have a sample size of zero
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 3:07:25 AM No.24538917
Everyone in this thread seems to have a depressing ignorance of how rare several-thousand year old records are.
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 3:08:25 AM No.24538922
>>24538903
It's a guy baiting responses. The one about Christianity not being a product of Second Temple Judaism confirms it. It's some guy saying wrong things intentionally because he thinks it's funny to see people type long frustrated responses to stupid bullshit.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 3:09:53 AM No.24538927
>>24538903
Yes, Jesus Christ, the #1 lover of rabbinic/pharisaical law
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 3:11:02 AM No.24538930
>>24538922
>>24538927
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 3:11:08 AM No.24538931
>>24538927
>Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 3:12:05 AM No.24538934
>>24538931
HAHAHAHAHA
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 3:15:38 AM No.24538946
>>24538927
>it's another episode of "jesus wasn't jewish somehow because i'm a jew worshipper who hates jews"
so sick of reruns
Replies: >>24538950
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 3:16:51 AM No.24538950
>>24538946
Definitely explains why Christians still practice metzitzah bpeh and kapparot
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 3:16:56 AM No.24538952
>>24538819
Yeah, the destruction of Egypt's army and death of all their firstborns would've obviously had massive impact and third parties would've used this opportunity to gang up on the Egyptians. There's also the fact that there are zero Egyptian records of hundreds of thousands of Israelites ever being present there, despite allegedly spending between a hundred and four hundred years depending on who you ask, unlike, say, how Persian vocabulary is used in the Book of Daniel and the information Daniel appears to have, or how we may connect the extrabiblical Cyrus Cylinder to the construction of the Second Temple.
>>24538860
The above, but also being coherent with the archaeological record. That's what people have been searching for and have no records of, like the very few layers of destruction in Canaan compared to the many alleged destroyed cities in Joshua.
Replies: >>24538959
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 3:18:51 AM No.24538959
>>24538952
Good thing we finished doing archaeology in the middle east just to be sure
Jus like how Troy was a mythical place
Replies: >>24538969
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 3:20:12 AM No.24538960
>>24538950
Add it to the list
>>24538922
He just wants to see posters frustrated at braindead arguments
Replies: >>24538963
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 3:22:06 AM No.24538963
>>24538960
Rewriting narratives again, are we?
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 3:23:01 AM No.24538966
>>24538950
Christians worship with the Hebrew Bible as one of their two sacred texts.
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 3:23:19 AM No.24538969
>>24538959
It's been two centuries since Troy was discovered. The evidence we've found since then directly contradicts the OT.
Replies: >>24539021
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 3:24:16 AM No.24538972
>>24538950
>chatgpt what is the old testament
>where did it come from
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 3:30:27 AM No.24538988
So to sum up this thread:
>Claims that judaism is older than the ten commandments (?)
>Claims that Islam is evidence of monotheistic Abrahamism predating the Hellenic Period
>Claims that there's no evidence of named individuals predating 1400 BC
>Claims that Canaanite polytheism is the same as monotheistic Abrahamic religion
>Claims that Christianity is not a product of Second Temple Judaism
>Claims that Jesus Christ was not a jewish rabbi
Are Christcucks and various other Abrahamites the dumbest people on Earth? Why does a thread asking for books on obscure religions need to get derailed by imbeciles like this?
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 3:31:21 AM No.24538993
>>24538910
Exactly. But there is no egocentric animal that with "practices that only exist for the sake of making oneself superior to others". That's a human trait, not an animal one. Every animal actively makes sacrifices of precious nutrition to produce offspring which exist on a spectrum of ay eggs and leave" to "literally kill themselves to produce". No observation of nature would lead one to conclude thst deities would seek to be elevated above man simply for the sake of it unless you were looking at human beings and even those are edge cases.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 3:31:53 AM No.24538996
goyjudaism
goyjudaism
md5: d1bf53c4542ef3b498331d931384b85f🔍
>>24538950
SAVE ME RABBI YESHUA
Replies: >>24539024 >>24540027
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 3:33:11 AM No.24539000
>>24538993
>But there is no egocentric animal that with "practices that only exist for the sake of making oneself superior to others"
Uhhh how did tigers happen then bro?
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 3:34:35 AM No.24539006
>>24538993
Animals have dominance hierarchies yep dontcha know man *picture of juden peterstein*
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 3:37:18 AM No.24539016
>>24538988
You forgot the guy that tried to argue about Tibetan Buddhism using the Pali Canon as evidence
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 3:39:41 AM No.24539021
>>24538969
You faggots whinge on and on about "evidence" and then screech whenever something like the Durupinar formation gets brought up. Why bother?
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 3:41:07 AM No.24539024
>>24538996
OH NO HE CALLED HIM YESHUA MY DAY IS RUINED ARGH
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 3:42:51 AM No.24539031
>>24538988
You forgot lazy strawmanning from enlightened centrists that love huffing their own farts
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 3:44:32 AM No.24539037
>>24539021
>brings up the hill that even creationists think is natural
Why bother, indeed.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 3:47:23 AM No.24539043
>>24539037
Will you be the first person to show me another instance of this "completely normal and natural rock formation"?
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 3:49:18 AM No.24539045
FG53Um_VkAMJhmk
FG53Um_VkAMJhmk
md5: eb950eb271ebb6939db005aacca82666🔍
>>24539037
>even creationists
Replies: >>24539062
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 3:56:36 AM No.24539062
>>24539045
Believe it or not:
>The data from this drilling, and from these and other surveys, combined with geological mapping and sampling by these and other scientists, enables the conclusion to be made that this site has a perfectly reasonable natural geological explanation.
>t. Creation Ministries International
https://creation.com/special-report-amazing-ark-expose
>>24539043
That's like asking for another instance of the Yonaguni Monument, or else it proves it was totally a mega-ancient civilization that did it. It's literally the most superficial argument you could possibly muster.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 4:15:52 AM No.24539107
>>24539062
You... you think the Yonaguni monument is natural?
>still can't show me another example of the supposed totally normal "hill"
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 4:20:51 AM No.24539117
>>24539107
>claims to care about evidence
>believes whatever looks funny must have been created by intelligent beings
>doesn't engage with any further investigations
Apply >>24539021 to yourself, you're making religious people look bad. Next thing we know, you're gonna be arguing for the presence of dragons and aliens.
Replies: >>24539121
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 4:21:55 AM No.24539121
>>24539117
Complete nothingburger of a comment, good job.
Still waiting on the additional "natural hill" photos.
Replies: >>24539125
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 4:23:35 AM No.24539125
>>24539121
If you actually give a shit, read this:
http://www.csun.edu/~vcgeo005/Sutton%20Hoo%2014.pdf
It's by a Methodist.
Replies: >>24539138
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 4:29:41 AM No.24539138
>>24539125
That link doesn't work. And what does Sutton Hoo have to do with anything
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 4:33:27 AM No.24539149
>>24539138
Works for me. Here's a different link, then:
https://litter.catbox.moe/qw2v5qkv5sfeev5p.pdf
Sutton Hoo is used for comparison, what the real remains of a ship would look like and how Durupinar differs from it.
Replies: >>24539168
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 4:42:26 AM No.24539168
>>24539149
Got it, looking at it now.
Surprisingly short document
>Minimal excavation since the 1960s
Did you read it yourself? Even the author concedes that the measurements are eerily consistent. And (surprise!) there is no mention of other naturally occurring structures like this, let alone the kind that sit where the biblical narrative stated they would be.
I'm sorry but you seem to be in a bind
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 4:46:23 AM No.24539185
>>24539168
Consistent.... with natural formation, yes. Do you not care to address any of his points? Or those of the CMI from >>24539062, for that matter.
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 5:10:27 AM No.24539263
>>24538502
>>24538509

>>24538513
>>24538525

>>24538538
>>24538545

>>24538578
kek this thread. my fucking sides
Replies: >>24539293
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 5:20:46 AM No.24539293
>>24539263
Hello again
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:32:45 AM No.24539474
>>24538472 (OP)
maybe human social order is divine ever thoyught about that you contrarian dickhead?
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 7:41:30 AM No.24539638
>>24538472 (OP)
Matthew, Mark, Thomas, John and Acts.
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 11:51:23 AM No.24539981
>>24538496
>condescending, reddity passive agressive tone
People like (you) need to experience a lot of violence.
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 12:04:15 PM No.24539994
>>24538909
>>person
You are not person, you are either literal bot or irl equivalent to npc.
>Schizo
A nuspeak for heretic used by modern day dirty, retarded peasants.
>Thanks for the laugh
No one cares, you are not important or have any value beyond economical.
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 12:28:56 PM No.24540027
>>24538996
Modern day jewry are not same people aa hebrews, they are cannanites.
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 1:34:31 PM No.24540118
Could you guys please pray for me? I don't know what the fuck is going on with these demons, but I've been tempted relentlessly since I went to Confession last Friday. It's fucking insane that homosexual sodomy is 15 min away from me everyday. Grindr is literally quicker than getting Dominos pizza.
Replies: >>24541334 >>24541932
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 8:57:17 PM No.24541032
>>24539168
wonder where this anon went
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 10:30:00 PM No.24541304
>>24538701
what is buddhist cope against sorcery
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 10:42:34 PM No.24541334
>>24540118
Kek. One thing nice about being a poofta . You don't starve like us
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 10:44:39 PM No.24541339
>>24538521
What’s your point? He didn’t claim he mentioned hell, he was offering a counterpoint to the anon’s theory.
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 2:44:46 AM No.24541932
>>24540118
As long as your shit sinks and your piss is loud and foamy you'll be fine.
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 8:32:04 AM No.24542550
>>24538472 (OP)
I think it's literally only Buddhism (and maybe Jainism) that fits your descriptions
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 5:46:11 PM No.24543361
>>24538472 (OP)
>with deities behaving only like animals higher in the food chain than mankind
pretty much all forms of polytheism and folk religion/animism
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 5:50:33 PM No.24543365
stoa