The Making of Biblical Womanhood - /lit/ (#24538679) [Archived: 393 hours ago]

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7/11/2025, 1:52:24 AM No.24538679
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>Biblical womanhood--the belief that God designed women to be submissive wives, virtuous mothers, and joyful homemakers--pervades North American Christianity. From choices about careers to roles in local churches to relationship dynamics, this belief shapes the everyday lives of evangelical women. Yet biblical womanhood isn't biblical, says Baylor University historian Beth Allison Barr. It arose from a series of clearly definable historical moments.

>The most prominent example of this contextual reading of Paul comes in the classic “women are to be silent” passage. Barr writes how her church resisted her as a last-minute youth Sunday School substitute. Not because she was unqualified—she was a university professor who taught high school through graduate students—but because she was a woman. Women don’t teach men, even if those “men” are aged thirteen. After discussion, Barr is allowed to act as a “facilitator”—she can go through the sermon questions from the week before—but isn’t allowed to teach. Why not? 1 Cor. 14:33-36.

>After telling her personal experience, Barr attacks that interpretation with fervor. She dives into the history of Rome to give historical context. She then suggests that Paul isn’t admonishing the believers to adhere to this practice, but is stating what the common practice is before refuting it. Paul does this elsewhere in 1 Corinthians, perhaps taking from Jesus who employed the technique in his Sermon on the Mount. Her conclusion: Far from saying that women should be silent, Paul is telling men that, in the world of Jesus, women are allowed to speak: “‘It is shameful for a woman to speak in church.’ [Paul quotes] What! Did the word of God originate with you, or are you the only ones it has reached?” – 1 Cor 14:35-36, RSV

Thoughts on this? Has the Bible actually always permitted women to be formal leaders within church?
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 1:57:05 AM No.24538695
>>24538679 (OP)
Sounds like bullshit. Women need to obey their husbands because if they're not controlled they'll fuck anything and everything. This isn't rocket science and men don't want to raise another man's kids.
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 5:03:36 AM No.24539236
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>>24538679 (OP)
See the following:

"In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.
11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety."
- 1 Timothy 2:9-15

This goes along with the passage you quoted in 1 Corinthians 14:33-36.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 5:06:39 AM No.24539249
>>24539236
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Lmao it's so over for progressive "christians" it never even started
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:10:16 AM No.24539406
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>>24538679 (OP)
This sounds like anti-Mary bullshit, and I'll never tolerate slander of the Blessed Virgin.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 7:58:34 AM No.24539659
>>24539406
Why are those lesbians groping their tits at each other?