"If Lucy had really met a faun-that is, a satyr-the result would have been a rape, not a tea party"
- J.R.R. Tolkien

>>24541401 (OP)
Now that, that would've been Kino.

>>24541401 (OP)
I like where this is going.

This reminds me that there allegedly exists manuscripts from Tolkien detailing elf sex

>>24541401 (OP)
Sounds like Tolkien was just GRRM edgy fag deep down

>>24541401 (OP)
Narnia was Loli-slop and Tolkein knew it. He probably also knew how to make Loli-Kino

>>24541414
Why did Tolkien want to see the little girl from Narnia get raped so badly?

>>24541401 (OP)
The thing I don’t get is that Tolkien took generic fantasy races and put his own spin on them, adding unique cultural and social characteristics to them. Why can’t Lewis do the same with Satyrs?

>>24541401 (OP)
B-b-but Mr Tolkien, Lucy is a c-child...

>>24541401 (OP)
lewis misrepresented mythical creatures and put little girls in danger of rape.

>>24541401 (OP)
What a nasty and perverted old man he was. All he thinks about.

>>24541401 (OP)
can we get a more thorough early life check, please?

>>24541538
I know right? It makes you think, about that "hobbit" thing "going on an adventure with big ol' uncle "Gandalf"...

>>24541546
Plenty of Anglo nonces
No idea why they’re importing grooming gangs

>>24541476
There is a letter from Tolkien where he chews Lewis out for exactly this reason. "Your worldbuilding is a mess. Get your shit together."

Tolkien never said that can retards stop disseminating this false quote

>>24541570
Okay, he never did. But I do state that, it would've been the case. Plus a Satyr fucking a loli is hot as fuck.

>>24541565
World building is for autistic faggots. Good stories don't need any of that bullshit.

>>24541620
"Worldbuilding" is a low iq generalization. What makes a world feel real is depth of the content. He studied anglo saxon culture and languages. He was interested in migrations. Being an intellectual shows in his work.

Lotr and Hobbit:
>There are mentions of trains (19th century invention).
> There are potatoes (food from South America)
>The month of April (Roman creation)
>Names like Sancho and Esmeralda (Spanish origin)
>Mantelpiece clock (18th century invention)
>Fireworks (Chinese invention)
>Mixes of different mythologies

This is the fag giving shit to Lewis because a faun doesn't rape a child at first sight and it's le bad world building lmao

>>24541681
You’re misunderstanding the function of language and cultural references in fantasy. Tolkien intentionally used modern words and real-world inspirations to create resonance for the reader — not because Middle-earth is literally a pre-Industrial version of Earth.

He even said in his letters that the language used is a “translation” — so "April," "potato," or "Sancho" are meant to reflect a familiar equivalent in our terms, not actual historical crossovers.

If you want pure invented language for every concept, you’d be reading an unreadable brick of Elvish, because, afterall, lotr is really the translated red book of westmarch.

>>24541401 (OP)
Narnia is deliberately meant to be a bit of a fairytale realm in a way Middle-Earth is not. I think it's unfair for Tolkien to judge Lewis by his own standards when clearly Lewis had standards of his own and thought he met them.

>>24541681
>This is the fag giving shit to Lewis because a faun doesn't rape a child at first sight
Neither of them were poofters.
I assume you're suggesting that *eventually* she's raped by the faun, which is why she can't endlessly get closer to god in book 7 because she's not allowed to return because she entered the world of sex and death?

>>24541846
Tolkien betrayed Lewis. Stabbed him in the back later on.

>>24541854
>Tolkien betrayed Lewis. Stabbed him in the back later on.
So they *were* poofters. I hope they had fun.

>>24541876
The Inklings had orgies and recited Beowulf.

>>24541401 (OP)
picrel was the very moment I found the movie to be fake and gay
I just wanted to curb stomp that little faun-faggot
tried to read the book back when I was 12 but thought it was dumb and boring.

>>24541565
What letter? I dont think it's from any in the collection of his letters.

>>24541565
>>24543394
There's no letter, it's Inklings gossip. Specifically Tolkien was irritated that CS Lewis had Father Christmas in a pagan setting like Narnia.
>When he heard that Lewis had shown the story to Green, Tolkien turned on Green with vehemence and declared: “It really won’t do, you know! I mean to say: ‘Nymphs and their Ways, The Love-Life of a Faun’. Doesn’t he know what he’s talking about?”
This is probably the same conversation the rape quote came from

>>24541846
tolkien seldom lived up to his own standards, he was often a hypocrite. i find his attitude towards 'celtic' things (as he described them) hard to swallow

>>24541880
Being a gentle man and showing chivalry, kindness, and hospitality to visitors is not faggotry.
Being a violent man who wants to violate other men forcefully until they leak bodily fluids, and spew profanity, that is faggotry.
Get it right.

It takes a great deal of Christianity to have so much love for a man you respect so little as Tolkein did for Lewis.

>>24541401 (OP)
It is irritating when a well-established mythical beast is cleaned up and its name, essentially, misused: this is the one big flaw of the Conqueror Worm fantasy novel, which randomly assigns monster names to what are essentially just groups of men.

>>24541420
"Why not?"
- J.R.R. Tolkien

>>24544205
Why did he not respect him?

>>24541401 (OP)
GRRM writing furiously

>>24541401 (OP)
The tragedy of Lewis and Tolkein is that they were both smart enough to avoid the pitfalls of modern fantasy "discourse" and just didn't, it seems. Excellent representatives of the best of both approaches but never reconciled, thus leading to the idea that one was right and the other wrong in a way that matters. It could've been over before it started, instead we have fully grown men screaming at eachother about how important biology is to dragons or the logistics of the geography and engineering of a fairy tale kingdom, with all the counterarguments being facetious deflections from the idea of storytelling needing any internal consistency at all.

All of the ingrates here calling him a nonce for this supposed statement are genuinely retarded. If I were to say "If the infants Romulus and Remus really met a Wolf, the result would have been a meal, not child rearing." That doesn't mean I fantasise about the concept of children being eaten by wolves.

>>24541401 (OP)
All of you niggers complaining about "how could Tolkien have said such a crass thing about muh cute loli" don't really know anything about the satyrs of myth. Their entire being was based around sexuality and the bestial nature of man. The lower half quite literally represents the beastly nature of man made manifest explicitly through their sexuality within the loins, his upper torso resembling man because of the divine nature of reason that resides within the brain. Half of their depictions are with their dicks hard, as much as I don't give a shit about Tolkien, he was entirely justified in saying this.
Now with all of that being said
>UOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHH