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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 11:14:50 PM No.24541415
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Did Dostoevsky read Plato and the greeks?
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 11:16:55 PM No.24541423
Every genius has read all the books you're too lazy to
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 11:19:23 PM No.24541431
>>24541415 (OP)
Did Dostoevsky read the Greeks? Did my cock lodge itself inside of your asshole, plowing into it, rubbing against the inner wall of your rectum, massaging your prostate, making a soft pink moan escape from your lips as my precum slicked your ass-walls, little dribbles of precum leaking from your tip, my balls slapping into your taint? Yes.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 11:22:58 PM No.24541443
>>24541415 (OP)
no, he could not read, in fact he did not even write, he just posted retarded memes on internet forums and kept asking irellevant time wasting questions. No time and no need to read anything when you can just visit 4chan's iliterature board on your way to videogames and politically incorrect boards to feel intellectual.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 11:25:31 PM No.24541453
>>24541415 (OP)
He won't
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 11:43:03 PM No.24541507
>>24541431
>>24541443
I literally just asked a question about literature on a literature board. In fact, who are wasting time being retards are you both. By the way you are gay and your mother a bitch.
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 11:46:07 PM No.24541520
>>24541431
>>24541443
I literally asked a question about literature on a literature board. Honestly? Who are wasting their time being retard and gay it is you both.
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 11:48:13 PM No.24541525
>>24541431
>>24541443
I literally asked a question about literature on a literature board. Honestly? Who is wasting their time being retard and gay are you both.
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 1:12:32 AM No.24541745
>>24541431
>>24541443
I asked a question honestly about literature on a literature board. Who is wasting their time being gay and retard it is both of you.
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Anonymous
7/12/2025, 1:31:39 AM No.24541796
>>24541745
Just ignore the mentally stunted children, anon.

To answer your question, Dostoyevsky knew Ancient Greek, French, German, and English. He read pretty much every German & Greek classic, and probably more than you can even think of. He's also heavily influenced by Homer
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Anonymous
7/12/2025, 2:49:12 AM No.24541937
at one point he probably skimmed through a dialogue or two. nothing suggests he was a rigorous thinker/researcher. he was too busy being an activist, journalist, making ends meet.
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Anonymous
7/12/2025, 3:26:01 AM No.24542006
>>24541796
>>24541937
Thanks for the answer, anons.
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Anonymous
7/12/2025, 5:50:09 AM No.24542252
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>>24541431
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 11:12:57 AM No.24542743
>>24542006
Not only did those two posts you quoted contradict each other but neither cited anything or expanded on anything. Dosto is not influenced by Homer. wtf
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 11:40:05 AM No.24542772
Screenshot 2025-07-12 at 11-38-39 Classical Education and Early Reading - Classical Education and Early Reading.pdf
>>24541415 (OP)
Yes, he probably did.

sources:
https://unknown-dostoevsky.ru/files/redaktor_pdf/1625828821.pdf
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%B2%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9,_%D0%A4%D1%91%D0%B4%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%9C%D0%B8%D1%85%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87
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Anonymous
7/12/2025, 11:43:58 AM No.24542775
>>24542772
>Dosto read "popular translations"

That makes me feel better about only knowing Greek phonetically. Ngl

The Great authors are less erudite than some of the anons on here.
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Anonymous
7/12/2025, 11:47:07 AM No.24542781
>>24542775
I really have to learn at least the Greek alphabet, so I can at least read Greek words and passages in books, even though I don't understand them.
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 12:39:39 PM No.24542855
>>24542775
Well that depends on the author. Tolstoy for one learned Ancient Greek in a matter of months and read everyone in original, in addition to his fluent German, French, English and some Slavic languages besides Russian. And at least some knowledge of (((Hebrew))) and Latin.

Dostoevsky is hardly representative of your typical intellectual of the time, what with his ten year exile, crippling gambling addiction and abject poverty.
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Anonymous
7/12/2025, 3:14:41 PM No.24543100
>>24541431
Ok… then what happened?
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 3:17:58 PM No.24543104
>>24542855
Do you mean that Tolstoy was in a more privileged position, so it was easier for him to learn all those languages than for Dosto?
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Anonymous
7/12/2025, 4:00:49 PM No.24543170
>>24543104
I think that was certainly a large part of it but also that there are different predispositions and inclinations in different individuals, and Dostoevsky clearly put Russia first and foremost in his thinking and writing, whereas Tolstoy was much more cosmopolitan in his views and therefore more likely to seek inspiration or reading pleasures in the works of foreign authors. I imagine Dostoevsky probably didn't care too much about reading authors in their original language and might have even preferred translations (don't have any evidence for the claim, just my intuition based on his works and diaries I've read). And as much as I admire Dostoevsky I definitely believe Tolstoy's mind to have been much sharper and more capable of learning (not just than that of Dostoevsky but practically anyone's). Though I'm sure if the likes of them had had all the means available to us today, they'd have spoken ten languages each.
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 8:24:01 PM No.24543769
>>24541415 (OP)
If you are alluding to Dostoevsky’s worst novels, then, indeed, I dislike intensely The Brothers Karamazov and the ghastly Crime and Punishment rigamarole. No, I do not object to soul-searching and self-revelation, but in those books the soul, and the sins, and the sentimentality, and the journalese, hardly warrant the tedious and muddled search. Dostoyevsky’s lack of taste, his monotonous dealings with persons suffering with pre-Freudian complexes, the way he has of wallowing in the tragic misadventures of human dignity – all this is difficult to admire. I do not like this trick his characters have of ”sinning their way to Jesus” or, as a Russian author, Ivan Bunin, put it more bluntly, ”spilling Jesus all over the place." Crime and Punishment’s plot did not seem as incredibly banal in 1866 when the book was written as it does now when noble prostitutes are apt to be received a little cynically by experienced readers. Dostoyevsky never really got over the influence which the European mystery novel and the sentimental novel made upon him. The sentimental influence implied that kind of conflict he liked—placing virtuous people in pathetic situations and then extracting from these situations the last ounce of pathos. Non-Russian readers do not realize two things: that not all Russians love Dostoevsky as much as Americans do, and that most of those Russians who do, venerate him as a mystic and not as an artist. He was a prophet, a claptrap journalist and a slapdash comedian. I admit that some of his scenes, some of his tremendous farcical rows are extraordinarily amusing. But his sensitive murderers and soulful prostitutes are not to be endured for one moment—by this reader anyway. Dostoyevsky seems to have been chosen by the destiny of Russian letters to become Russia’s greatest playwright, but he took the wrong turning and wrote novels.
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 10:46:01 PM No.24544290
I'm reading Demons now
>women find Stavrogin hot and mysterious because he's weird and killed a man in a duel
Whoa...
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Anonymous
7/12/2025, 10:48:44 PM No.24544300
>>24544290
Just keep going, it’s a great book
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 11:09:41 PM No.24544379
>>24541431
he said calmly.
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 7:22:09 AM No.24545356
That great writers didn't read the greats of the canon and still created works remembered for hundreds of years should entice you. What did they see? What did they tap in to?
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 9:25:39 AM No.24545567
>>24541415 (OP)
All Russians love Greece, and Ancient Greece by extension, especially if they're Orthodox. Dostoevsky was obviously a devout Orthodox Christian even if he was a horrible person in his own life and an authentic sinner.