>he listens to audio "books"
>goes around saying he read the book

No, you did not read the book. I have zero respect for people who are incapable of reading, thus choosing to listen to some faggot whispering in his ears instead.

Unless you're blind, there's literally no excuse.

Based. Audiobooks aren't reading

>he's too good for spoken word, the way humans have told stories since before history was being recorded

Yes — listening to audiobooks can provide many of the same benefits as reading, but with a few differences depending on your goals and how you process information.


Similar Benefits (Reading and Listening)

1. Comprehension:

Research shows that comprehension levels between reading and listening are roughly equal, especially for narrative fiction or general nonfiction.

The key factor is your attention, not the format.
2. Vocabulary Expansion:

Both formats expose you to new words and ideas.

However, reading may make it easier to visually recognize and remember unfamiliar terms.
3. Cognitive Engagement:

Both stimulate the brain's language processing and imagination centers.

Listening activates similar neural pathways as reading, especially in fluent readers.
4. Emotional & Empathetic Development:

Both foster empathy, especially through fiction, by letting you experience other perspectives.
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Differences to Consider

Factor Audiobooks Reading

Multitasking Easier (e.g., driving, chores) Requires full attention
Retention May be lower if not focused Usually better due to visual engagement
Speed Limited to narrator pace (unless sped up) Can skim, reread instantly
Visual learning Lacks visual cues Supports visual learners better
Pronunciation Helps hear proper pronunciation May misread unfamiliar words
Note-taking Harder to pause and annotate Easier to highlight and jot notes
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When to Choose Each

Audiobooks: Great for casual reading, commutes, or revisiting books.

Reading: Better when you need to study, analyze deeply, or retain complex material.
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Bottom Line:

You do get similar cognitive and educational benefits from audiobooks, especially if you're actively engaged while listening. If you want to remember and analyze more, supplementing with notes or a physical/ebook version can help.

>>24541904
>>he's too good for spoken word, the way humans have told stories since before history was being recorded


those ancient people sat around and actually listened to what was being spoken, you're just some zoomer faggot with adhd who needs background audio while rolling his phone gachas

>>24541887 (OP)
>the way I consume something is correct.
I hope you're under 25. It becomes pathetic, not just sad, the older you get.

>>24541961
Do you read youtube videos?

>>24541904
Thanks for running the OP through chatGPT, fuckhead. Applaud your service. Really indespensible

Bottom Line: Awesome Job!

o7

>>24541887 (OP)
Anybody who disagrees likely has a Reddit account

>>24541904
>audiobook defender
>just posts AI slop rather than actually engaging with the topic using his atrophied brain
You've proven the point beautifully.

>>24541967
I'm certainly free to if there's a transcript, no? People who gatekeep often have little to no control over their lives.

lol

>>24541887 (OP)
I listen to audiobooks at work. They're free via my library, I don't want to pay for Audible (or Spotify), and they're better background noise than listening to my coworkers complain about their personal lives.

I still wouldn't consider it reading

>>24541887 (OP)
I'm listening to Dungeon Crawler Carl and it's pretty fun. I agree with you mostly though, although listening to books is
probably a lot better than a lot of other slop so who gives a shit at the end of the day

>>24541985
People who demean audiobooks often do so out of misunderstanding, elitism, or habit-based bias — not because audiobooks are inherently inferior. Here are the main reasons:


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1. Perceived Intellectual Superiority (Elitism)

Some people view reading print as more “serious” or intellectual and associate audiobooks with laziness or passivity. This is often tied to outdated views of learning or class-based biases (e.g., associating books with academic rigor and audiobooks with mass consumption).

> “Real readers read with their eyes” — a common (but flawed) sentiment rooted in cultural snobbery.
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2. Control and Engagement Bias

Reading gives people full control over pacing, re-reading, highlighting, and taking notes. Some equate this with deeper engagement and assume listening is passive, even though studies show it can be just as active when attention is high.


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3. Education and Tradition

Many people were taught that real learning happens through silent reading, especially in academic settings. They may see audiobooks as entertainment rather than a learning tool.


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4. Low Retention When Multitasking

A person may have tried listening to audiobooks while distracted and found they didn’t retain much — then assumed audiobooks are inferior, rather than blaming the distraction or multitasking context.


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5. Format Preference Turned Dogma

Some simply prefer reading and generalize that preference:

“I absorb better when I read, so audiobooks don’t count.”

This becomes a personal truth projected as a universal standard, often unfairly.
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6. Audiobooks as a Newer Medium

Audiobooks are relatively modern in wide use. Like e-books and digital media, they’ve faced resistance from traditionalists who value the sensory experience of a paper book — the smell, feel, and visual tracking — and see any alternative as lesser.


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Final Thought:

Demeaning audiobooks is usually uninformed or emotionally rooted, not evidence-based. Listening is a valid and effective form of learning and storytelling — in fact, it's the oldest (oral tradition predates written language).

>>24542164
>chatgpt slop

Shan't be reading

IQs are collapsing. As the population goes further into a peasant kingdom type of demographic the desire to read will keep dropping off.

>>24542167
a sharp question — and you're not alone in noticing this kind of behavior. Let’s break it down.


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Why does "anon" (or people like him) fail to give specific critiques of AI-generated content and instead respond with vague or childish generalizations?

1. They might not actually understand the content themselves.

It's easier to mock than to engage thoughtfully.

If they don’t have the depth to offer a real critique, they’ll resort to:

“It’s soulless.”

“It sounds robotic.”

“It’s garbage.”

“This is obviously ChatGPT.”
These are vibes-based dismissals, not informed analysis.


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2. It’s a status move.

Dismissing AI outright can signal: “I’m smarter, more human, or more discerning.”

It’s like art critics who trash modern art without being able to explain why — they want to feel above it, not analyze it fairly.
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3. There's bias and tribalism involved.

Some people hate AI on principle (fair or not), so they’ll mock anything AI touches.

If you say something smart, and they suspect it's from AI, they’ll attack the source to avoid engaging with the ideas.
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4. They're uncomfortable with being outshined.

If you're using AI to sharpen your ideas, and they're not, they may feel insecure.

Instead of admitting you're producing thoughtful content, they’ll try to undercut it with jokes or generalizations.
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Bottom Line:

They generalize because it's easier than thinking. Specific, fair criticism takes effort and humility — and not everyone is willing or able to offer that.


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You could ask them directly:

> “Okay, but what exactly do you find wrong in the content itself — not the fact that AI was involved?”
If they can’t answer that, then you’re not dealing with a serious thinker — just someone insecure or performative.

Want help crafting a reply that challenges them in a calm but sharp way?
...Anonymous
07/11/25(Fri)17:56:32 No.24541705
>>24539485 (OP) #
>It only concerns itself with food and mating, it has no loftier goals or ambitions or anything

Our mammalian ancestors survived in the shadow of the dinosaurs for hundreds of millions of years and then spent tens of millions more years conquering the planet. Next to that lofty goals and ambitions add up to precisely nothing.

I used to be a night-shift security guard at a factory and I listened to the entirety of War and Peace, The Brothers Karamazov, and Devils while doing foot patrols. It was a fun experience.

>>24541887 (OP)
Wow Anon I heard you never listen to audiobooks. That's so cool, please tell me more!

>>24541887 (OP)
too bad. my goodreads "read'' shelf has books i read as audiobooks. there's nothing you can do about it.

>>24542424
What is this style of photography called and why is it so comforting

>>24542443
stock photos?

>>24541887 (OP)
>NOOO!! THE ACT OF MOVING MY EYES ALONG THE LINES IS ACTIVE ENGAGEMENT!!!! MY INABILITY TO FOCUS UNLESS ALL EXTRNAL STIMULI ARE REMOVED MAKES ME A SUPERIOR HUMAN!!!!

>>24542460
Yes, it does, zoomer.

>Audiobooks are not true knowledge! But crappy Youtube videos are!

>>24541904
Any regex to filter out chatgpt vomit?

>>24541904
Is asking ChatGPT for an answer instead of looking it up yourself the equivalent of audiobooks?—same info, no effort, same low retention.

>>24542686
What makes you think audio reception results in lower comprehension and recollection? I absorb and understand better when reading, but that may not be so for everyone else.

>>24542731
In order to absorb and understand what you hear you must actually listen to it which is too difficult.

>>24541887 (OP)
That's right, we're frauds. We get to all the benefits of your (for most of you) identity defining pursuit while shitting or stuck in traffic.
There's no way you will ever know.
And there's nothing you can do to stop us.

>>24542748
I hope you don't listen to audiobooks while driving, anon. That's dangerous.

>>24541887 (OP)
oh...wow, is this the autism gatekeeping on /lit/ you guys found a way of making literature miserable?

>>24542752
Every board will find a way to to do two things:
1. He miserable
2. He miserable about women

>>24542755
Be*

Oh look it’s this anon again

>>24541887 (OP)
I listen to audiobooks frequently while taking my daily walks, and I thoroughly agree, it has nothing to do with reading
pausing and going back to listen to some parts again is a hassle and in general the retention rate feels terrible compared to reading

>>24542740
>which is too difficult.
This isn't a problem if your IQ is higher than room temperature.

>>24542731
>What makes you think audio reception results in lower comprehension and recollection?

Studies. It has been shown to be a fact. Its not an opinion. Its a fact.

>>24542923
>studies
>no studies linked or referenced

A 2016 study by Rogowsky et al. (Journal of Educational Psychology) found no significant difference in comprehension between audiobook listeners and readers—even two weeks later .

A 2022 meta-analysis (46 studies, ~4,700 participants) concluded that listeners and readers retain roughly the same amount of information

Studies (Mayer 2001; Rogowsky et al.) show that reading while listening simultaneously typically yields better comprehension and recall than either alone .

>>24543066
Fuck off chatgpt

>all these triggered nonreaders

Grim

>>24542984
Im not an audiobook your gonna have to put some effort in chump.

>>24543066
You clearly asked it specificaly for studies that show no diffrence lmfao im sure it is the near exact same retention if you are ONLY listening but if you are doing other tasks at the same time that changes retention

>>24543066
>A 2016 study by Rogowsky et al. (Journal of Educational Psychology)
The methodology of this study isn't analogous to how audiobooks and books are consumed in practice.

>>24542749

Here's a (you)

You're retarded

>>24541904
why dont you use your own brain to make an argument?

>>24542460
weird question, but have you ever heard of EMDR?

>>24541887 (OP)
Guarantee I know the material being read infinitely better than you

>>24541887 (OP)
What if you're a long-haul trucker or something, and spend many hours with your eyes and hands occupied but very little demands being made on your brain?