>Aristotle didn’t believe everyone should participate equally in politics. He excluded women, slaves, and manual laborers from full citizenship.
Umm... Based?

>>24544463 (OP)
Only NEETs should get to participate.

>>24544463 (OP)
It was a very common opinion for his time. Nothing based. The Stoics were much more contrarian and argued that one should eat with their slaves etc.

>>24544463 (OP)
Hegel’s rankings of antiquity societies

Anatolia and Persia
>least free because only King is guaranteed rights

Greece
>moderately free. Citizens guaranteed rights

Ancient Germans
>freest of all. Everyone is guaranteed rights and class doesn’t exist yet

>>24544463 (OP)
what gives men the right to have such dominance over the political power of the state

>>24544463 (OP)
He was right

>>24544487
>what gives men the right to have such dominance over the political power of the state

They fight and die in the wars defending the state

>>24544484
Hegel exposing himself as a retard yet again because he retroactively projected the Enlightenment notion of rights onto Antiquity.

>>24544509
Time a Dayshart. Everyone has always been dualist.

It's in his ethics/politics that you really see the weakness of Aristotle's empiricism. The 'virtuous man' turns out to be a based Athenian dude who throws good parties and has a fair amount of money/property, and the 'perfect state' turns out to depend on slave labor - even though Aristotle was smart enough to recognize that not all slaves should be slaves, he still couldn't conceive of a different sort of society. For any retard who thinks slave labor is based, please consider that your barbarian ancestors would have been 'natural slaves' for Aristotle.

>>24544509
Check it out everyone, a relativist.

>>24544509
welfare is an ancient germanic concept. welfare is essentially a rights based paradigm.

>>24546414
Why are you acting like relativists are an oddity? The government schools indoctrinate kids with the atheistic humanist religion and its creation myth of the big bang, millions of years, life coming from nonlife, and changes of kinds (despite all of that violating the laws of science and/or never passing the scientific method) and the logical conclusion from that is being a relativist.

>>24546414
>Jesus was a communist
Sounds retarded, doesn’t it?

>>24546446
I'd say the people who reflexively buck against perceived 'relativism' (=tolerance) and embrace chud ideologies/religions are just as retarded. But hey, that's just me.

>>24546452
This is a strawman. Calling Jesus a communist is not the same as pointing out that Greek city states were universally corrupt as fuck and rested on a massive base of slave labor. Jesus opposed political reforms anyway, to the extent that there is anything like 'communism' in the NT it's the free and voluntary community of the apostles and the early Church. You can't think and should probably seek out a brain transplant.

>>24546460
This is exactly the same. The concept of rights as a whole is novel. No need to conflate it with corruption and so on. The idea that humans have so imaginary set of “inalienable” rights simply did not exist until the 18th century.

>>24546691
>The idea that humans have so imaginary set of “inalienable” rights simply did not exist until the 18th century.
No shit. You really are illiterate dude. It's like you're so eager to show off your wiki-scraps of learning that you can't understand what Hegel was saying or why he said it. I hope you are enslaved, honestly.

>>24544509
Except he does not really do that. In the PoS he situates antiquated notions such as stoicism and skepticism as occurring prior to the established truth of reason. Lordship and bondage, stoicism, and skepticism are true as matters of self-certainty and not reason. That means they are true in as much as they identify certain ways of being instead of being rationalities in themselves. That is just to say prior to enlightenment established truth of rationality, those antiquated categories merely exist as a consequence of their self-certainty, rather than being rationally determined or existing as a consequence of some ethical order. I guess you both already said that.

>>24546717
quintessential hegeltard seethe

>>24544487
According to Aristotle, some people are naturally born to obey others. According to him, women should obey men and barbarics (The greeks saw foreigners as barbaric people, and thus enslaved them) to obey civilization.