>To men a man is but a mind. Who cares what face he carries or what form he wears? But woman's body is the woman.

>>24547193 (OP)
Have you seen the list of pseudonyms that Bierce used in the Devil's Dictionary to pretend all those little verses he wrote were really from a whole bunch of sources? They're pretty funny.

https://donswaim.com/bierce-pseudonyms.html

Everyone goes on about Pessoa and his hundred different personae. Move over Fernando, it's Ambrose Time!

>>24547193 (OP)
Handsome fellow. Anyway, insofar as it was ever true, not true anymore for men in the West. They act like women

>>24548834
Agreed. The quote is no longer applies to current world-condition. This was before instagram, before tinder, before steroids and fitness models and chicken and cameras that face backward.

>>24548834
>>24548837
Retarded fag, have sex and then try and say that again with a straight face. You guys are pathetic, you need to recognize not every woman is some slut, most women aren't. You probably wouldn't know that though because you've been watching the shadow-forms on the cave wall too long.

>>24548837
It does retain truth in that the current state is a pathological deviation (just in biological terms a failure to reproduce above replacement despite a lack of material constraints)

>>24548842
The quote isn’t about women being sluts but about how men regard each other. You have sluts on your mind, retard. Go fuck yourself

>>24548850
I'm not talking about the quote retard, no shit, I'm talking about the retards that commented after

>>24548842
Where did I mention women at all. Go to sleep and wash your mind out.

>>24548855
They’re explaining why the quote is no longer true, fucking moron. You’re probably a faggot who can’t tell up from down. Go fuck a horse and get some AIDs, fucking faggot

>>24548862
Eh, I'm sorry, you're right, anon. A darkness consumes me.

>>24548869
Go to the light

>>24548834
>insofar as it was ever true, not true anymore for men in the West. They act like women
Some do, some don't. The trend is downhill though I agree.

>>24548837
>The quote is no longer applies to current world-condition. This was before instagram, before tinder, before steroids and fitness models and chicken and cameras that face backward.
No. The exact opposite in fact.

All the things you describe are prevelant *because Bierce's verse is true*. Here it is in full:

To men a man is but a mind. Who cares
What face he carries or what form he wears?
But woman's body is the woman. O,
Stay thou, my sweetheart, and do never go,
But heed the warning words the sage hath said:
A woman absent is a woman dead.

See attached meme. Why is this a thing? Why do women try to disseminate pictures of themselves all the time?

They do this because they want to reinforce the image of their physical body in as many men's minds as possible as often as possible. They can't be literally physically present so they do the next best thing. They would be physically present if they could. An e-thot knows if she could actually be in the room with each of her followers, she would have a much tighter hold on them. She can't, so she distributes pictures, audio, video.

She doesn't just write down her thoughts on life and send that out. No-one would care.

>>24548883
But that’s women (and only a certain kind of woman)
This is just a continuation of the hollow men. What value does a man have?
It’s important that women are actually better at competing in modern economy, because they are better at conforming
So what’s a man for?

>>24548917
Man is for breaking things apart, so they can be built new again.

>>24548917
>(and only a certain kind of woman)
Well of course there's a certain amount of exaggeration and simplification in there. Partly because one always has to simplify to model the world. The only completely accurate model of the world is the world. Partly it's for humorous effect.

But it's still more true than current dogma would have you believe. A woman's reproductive capacity is incredibly important (and every woman knows this; and men aren't being wicked or ignorant when they pay a lot of attention to it). We're just supposed to pretend, most of the time, that reality is not like this, and only acknowledge the truth when a woman decides it's in her interest. Not reasonable.

>what's a man for?
A man is for doing everything that's not bearing and raising children and running a household. But that's a separate issue.

>>24548924
Yes so far as a man will be a man, today that’s what he must do… but this is scary and not easy, so it’s no surprise men will become women. The transexuals only taking the general trend to the limits

>>24548951
You describe the prostitute tendency which is antagonistic to motherhood. The prostitute feels hatred and compulsion to affecting men while the mother feels tender superiority or fascination. In the former case the women may be said to be marketing herself to the highest bidder, but this is counterproductive if you understand the real nature of eugenics.
To a degree wanting to be fashionably dressed and seen in the world is just natural, healthy vanity

>>24548965
Yes, there is some truth in this although it's not an absolute distinction. Women typically change quite markedly once they become wives & mothers. Politically they switch from liberal to conservative, etc.

There have always been women who don't accept this changing role gracefully though, and it's more common these days (although perhaps not that much).

An extreme example of what I'm talking about is women who keep on trying to compete with their daughters sexually even when the daughter is getting into puberty / adolescence. There was a striking case some years ago. Raquel Welch's daughter was getting married and R.W. herself turned up in a very provocative outfit. You see this quite often in actresses, pop stars etc. (Of course it's partly a function of wealth. If you can afford to pay someone else to look after your children then you are free to go off and do other stuff.)

It also varies across cultures. I've read several writers who’ve noted, for example, that French women are much less inclined to take a back seat to their children. They want to go on looking chic.

>>24548997
The distinction is mixed most of the time (and actually Weininger denounced this at the end) but in truth women are more differentiated. A noble woman really does not understand the psychology of a hussy. I have a scene in Othello in mind. On the other hand a man can be both a saint and a whoremonger (he can choose among his potentials). If noble women are rare, so are noble men. You’re analysis works best if we’re being zoologists.

>>24549008
>On the other hand a man can be both a saint and a whoremonger (he can choose among his potentials).

Historical examples of whoremongering saints?

>>24548997
>An extreme example of what I'm talking about is women who keep on trying to compete with their daughters sexually even when the daughter is getting into puberty / adolescence.
W. said how a women gets along with or regards their daughters is the best indication of maternal character
But want you to consider peer gynt where a mans path is determined at every step with the type of women he’s associated with

>>24549014
You misunderstand. A saint can understand a whoremonger. But St Augustine is the obvious example but personally I’m not sure if he wasn’t a politician and not a real saint
>As Saint Augustine in his fine Confessions,
>Which make the reader envy his transgressions.

>>24549014
Consider Baudelaire whose strongest musical impression was Tanhauser

>>24549020
Fair point, but what about St. Mary of Egypt? She was an ex-hussy turned saint. Do you believe that noble women are exempt from the rule that "without temptations no-one can be saved"?

>>24549027
I’m not a Catholic or even a Christian like that. Noble women do not experience sexual temptations as men do because their nature is purely sexual (love) and they do not experience sexuality as an alien force. I question if you’re actually interested in the truth and know that you have bad motivations

>>24549036
Neither am I. You were the first to bring up sainthood, then Augustine. St. Mary stands as an example of a woman who experienced her sexual craving as ego dystonic, just like a man. And if she didn't exist, I have no doubt at least one amma did at some point. I am only trying to have a discussion. This board's become so tiresome.

>>24549043
Sorry, I'm highly skeptical of scientific misogyny especially when medieval Christianity is brought in to bolster the case. Culture is pretty much founded on the worship of women, and most women, it seems, are not worthy of worship, so this is important. Know yourself, etc. I’ve actually been quoting Novalis who pointed out this differentiation, and it’s true.

>>24549128
>medieval Christianity
>desert mothers
sad

>>24549158
All the pedantry in the world won’t make you less of a tiresome cocksucking faggot

>>24549172
It isn't pedantry if it proves you don't know what you're talking about.