Just read War and Peace. What are some other good books about attrition warfare?

the diary of a napoleonic footsoldier by jakob walter. i was especially struck by a passage in which he passes a broken down money cart with gold and silver coins spilling on out, and cannot bring himself to take his hand out of his pockets due to the cold. it's non-fiction.

>>24548801 (OP)
>Just read War and Peace
Is it any good?

>>24549106
Yes. I liked it a lot, both the war parts and the peace parts.

>>24549106
War and Peace is fucking awesome. That and Brothers Karamazov are my top 2.

>>24549106
It is very good. The first few chapters of peacetime are a bit more boring because he has to introduce the huge cast of characters, but once that's done it's amazing. One of the greatest works of fiction I've ever read.

>>24548801 (OP)
>Just read War and Peace. What are some other good books about attrition warfare?
Idi i Smotri.
Burchett, W
Works on Vietnam

North of the 17th Parallel (1957), Red River Publishing House - Hanoi.
The Furtive War-The United States in Vietnam and Laos (1963), International Publishers - New York.
My Visit to the Liberated Zones of South Vietnam (1964), Foreign Languages Publishing House - Hanoi.
Vietnam: The Inside Story of a Guerrilla War (1965), International Publishers.
Eyewitness in Vietnam (1965), published by The Daily Worker - London (UK).
Vietnam North: A First-hand Report (1966), Lawrence & Wishart Publishers - London (UK).
Vietnam Will Win! Why the People of South Vietnam have Already Defeated US Imperialism (1968), Monthly Review Press - New York.
Second Indochina War : Cambodia and Laos Today (1970), Lorimer Publishing - London (UK).
(with Prince Norodom Sihanouk), My War with the CIA: The Memoirs of Prince Norodom Sihanouk (1974) Pelican - London (UK).
Grasshoppers and Elephants: Why Vietnam Fell (1977), Urizen Books Inc. - New York.
Catapult to Freedom: The Survival of the Vietnamese People (1978), Quartet Publishers - London (UK).

>>24551183
is Kill Anything That Moves any good or is it just "look at all of the really sad stuff we did" porn

>>24551198
I own it. Haven't read it yet though

>>24551198
>we
There aren't many books on the failure of the VWP / NFL / PRG / PLAF / PAVN as a social force. *Oh you mean sep cunts.*

H-Net indicates that Turse is a journalists. Henry Holt is an okay publisher. (Weyant T (2013) H-net https://www.h-net.org/reviews/showrev.php?id=38666 ).

From Weyant's summary, if you have independent demonstration of US conduct, Turse would be an adequate summarisation. Turse's overall claims mirror my reading of US oral histories / soldier biographies; Turse mirrors my reading of NFL/PRG/VWP reportage and archival *non-reportage* of US massacres. Turse's account doesn't indicate that the VWP was more concerned with the war-criminality of the South Koreans, or with the "active patrolling" of Australian forces. The VWP primarily considered the US military as a military problem which was secondary to the primary theatre of the war which was political: the PRG was a government in effect waiting to be liberated by the PAVN after 1968's failures.

Just read Browning C _Ordinary Men_ and apply to some contemporary sources, or apply to Turse for that matter. "Free fire zone" and WP: napalm sticks to kids.

>>24548801 (OP)
Stalingrad; Life and Fate by Grossman

>>24549018
He passed the test.

>>24548801 (OP)
I liked "the War of the Rats" (Rattenkrieg)
it later got made into "enemy at the gates" movie
The russians were just bombing rubble and getting nowhere.

>>24548801 (OP)
Maybe Herodotus or the History of the Pelopenisian War

>>24548801 (OP)
There's also Romance of the Three Kingdoms

>>24548801 (OP)

>>24549018
thanks for the rec

>>24549106
Decent

>>24548801 (OP)
Brehs im afraid of doorstoppers but I know this one is worth reading should I take a leap of faith?

>>24548801 (OP)
I think something that sort of fits the bill is 'the forgotten soldier'. 16 year old French kid has a German mom and thus is eligible for the draft. He gets whisked away to the eastern front and is forced to endure all the sublime indignities of war. Very kino. its an autobiography btw.

bump for interst

>>24550152
My advice too. Get through the beginning chapters which set everything up, they’re the hardest to read because they’re dense. Once the book gets settled, you get settled with it and it’s absolutely enthralling. I felt like I lived inside the book.

>>24549018
He would've been executed for looting. Napoleon didn't tolerate that among his ranks; he wanted a "civil" and "proper" army unlike what he experienced during his time as a low-level officer.

Reading it now. Tolstoy is so obsessed with pointing out how it's not the great leaders that make history but simply the history that takes a life of it's own. This is where he sets up Kutuzov to be the national hero for Russia without explicitly saying so for Kutuzov is the guy who "senses" how things go and simply let them unfold to his advantage.

One thing that bothers me is how all the characters' fates get resolved through death. Pierre encounters death from the executions he witnesses which wakes him up from the search for meaning through the actions he tried earlier in his life (religion, altruism, drinking, love). Andrei also "ascends" through losing his fight against death's grip, Natasha and Maria get their views thoroughly altered by seeing Andrei and for Maria it's the death of his father at first. Not that this is wrong but when you force this same thing on all the characters it feels forced.

Anyways I liked W&P but it could've been shorter.
Also I somewhat hate Natasha