Why are male and female ideals regarding romance so drastically different?

Yandere is extremely niche and almost always labeled psychological horror not romance in men's fiction.
Males romance is something like the book Trailer Park Elves or Demon D.Y.I.

Basically the harem version of the meme is far more accurate.

>>24551465 (OP)
because men and women are different, no matter how much liberal brainwashing there is

>>24551465 (OP)
Women want the alpha chads like me, most anons are cucks

>>24551487
You can't be a cuck if you pay for sex

>>24551492
you can

First off, OP is a faggot. Second off, the female ideals regarding romance is a comical phrase like what do women want or men only think about one thing. Finally, any earnest answer will welcome trolling as it is 2025. Nice try OP but I'm not playing your retard game. Women deserve to be plowed and forced into waifu roles leaving men in charge to run businesses not having to worry about unclean clothes while they go off building civilization.

>>24551465 (OP)
>Yandere is extremely niche and almost always labeled psychological horror not romance in men's fiction.

Yes it is and everyone is wrong and the first author to write a good modern adventure novel with a male protagonist, a yandere love interest and a happy ending will make ten million dollars.

>>24551465 (OP)
Because one fucks and the other gets fucked. It's not rocket science, anon.

>>24551465 (OP)
Biology

>>24551530
There is wanting to be wanted, and then there is that person wanting you TOO much to the point it's horrifying, which is the category yandere falls into.

It's like the difference between being into monster girls, and being into actually monstrous kinda sorta females.
One has mass appeal and the other is horrifying to almost everyone but a microscopic subsection of weirdos.

The yandere is cute, lusting after the protagonist and loyal just like any other idealized romantic female role, she simply embodies the loyalty to the point of taking it to its logical extreme.

>>24551551
Of course Yandere as it's usually done is not a sensible formula for emotionally healthy men. But we don't do it like that.

The main problem with most Japanese Yanderes is that they are aimed at wimpish men who daren't pursue women and rather like the idea of the woman doing all the work. So you have a spineless, passive protagonist for them to self-insert into.

We don't want that. We want a hero who is ready, willing and able to pursue women, and actually doesn't like the woman pursuing him, *even though he does like her*. (He has to see past the lunacy and see that she is a fine woman at heart.)

It's the reverse of the traditional Western courtship dynamic, in which the woman holds out to make the man prove himself. Our hero has to show the girl he wants her *whilst at the same time rejecting her advances*. It's a narrow line to tread, for sure.

The happy ending has to be the protagonist "fixing her", which in the case of a Yandere means soothing the core insecurity that makes her a Yandere and turning her into a very loyal tradwife.

Basically it's like Dostoevsky's "The Idiot", except that Myshkin a) isn't an idiot and b) actually does manage to fix Nastasya. That means our Nastasya has to be less deeply broken than Dostoevsky's, of course. And you might argue it's bordering on wish-fulfillment. But hey, do you want the ten million dollars or not?

>>24551465 (OP)
name 10 books like bottom right.

Even in Dostojevsky novels the crazy bitch usually ends up scaring the guy away.

Because women are from venus and men are from mars :D

>>24551606
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Why? It's the male dream, everyone knows it. Are you a girl?

>>24551465 (OP)
Neither men nor women actually want to do any work, they want prince charming/their waifu to fall in their lap. So obviously that would create a different in fiction for men vs women.

>>24551622
>Prince charming
That's the point, women want to be abused by men who don't love em

>>24551616
I, as most guys, care very little about the extremes of a woman. She just needs to have a nice voice, something to keep herself busy during the day and a healthy body.
It doesnt matter if her dad is rich or poor, she is smart or dumb, she is talented or dull, or whatever. All a girl gets judged by ultimately is what I wrote above.
There's a reason intellectual men often go gay out of disappointment and boredom in women, as they are in themselves.

>>24551603
After a certain point you aren't really describing a yandere anymore and have totally lost the plot/trope.

>>24551622
>Neither men nor women actually want to do any work, they want prince charming/their waifu to fall in their lap

This may be true for some people in real life. It might be true to some extent for women reading fiction. It's certainly not true for men reading fiction. Who wants to read about a wimpish passive protagonist who gets given the girl? (That's what's wrong with the anime show Future Diary. The protagonist is simply infuriating.)

Men want to read a book where the protagonist struggles against gigantic forces and triumphs.

>>24551465 (OP)
They're the same picture

>>24551465 (OP)
I wish the second one were the standard
the original image is much more realistic about the absolute state

>>24551465 (OP)
It's almost like if gender made people different...
Truly a revelation for the zoomer.

>>24551465 (OP)
Maybe it's just that people who write books are really fucking horny?

>>24551730
A broken man rescued by a princess that inexplicably loves him is a popular fantasy among men, as is 'manic pixie girl' dragging a dull listless man out of his ennui.
Men and women like the idea of love just happening to them

>>24551483
>Demon D.Y.I.
I couldn't find this when searching. could you tell me what it is??

>>24551895
The complains about manic pixie dream girls was litterally always feminist propaganda by people who never watched/read the media they were complaining about.

Name 3 examples of manic pixie dream girls, and I am almost certain that the majority won't actually follow the so called trope.


Also the man being rescued by a princess simply put, is not and has never been a trope in male focused fiction.
The only times it ever happens is as a subversion of standard tropes.

Do you actually engage with actual real fiction instead of man hating talking points?

>>24552307
My bad, its Demon DIY.
Basically a dude quits his job to go and fix up a haunted mansion that also just happens to house several hot monster girls.
As dude builds up the house he also builds up his relationship with the girls, but there are problems in the hood, including the dreaded home owners association who's leader isn't what she seems.

Only read/listened to the first one, but it was a very fun book, with very male oriented romance.

If I ever get around to getting a VPN again I might get the rest of the series.

>>24552310
The topic of discussion is what men enjoy in fiction, and both of the examples I listed are enjoyed primarily by men, They have negative appeal to women, who usually enjoy the inverse i.e. 50 shades of gray ultra rich and successful gigachad has all the choice in the world but inexplicably becomes obsessively in love with you in particular

>>24551895
>A broken man rescued by a princess that inexplicably loves him is a popular fantasy among men, as is 'manic pixie girl' dragging a dull listless man out of his ennui.
>Men and women like the idea of love just happening to them

Yes and no. "Broken man gets mended by woman" is indeed a thing. But there has to be something to mend.

She has to revitalize the life in him that's crushed, basically. But then he has to become worthy of her.

A powerful woman simply adopting a worthless man like a pet is NOT a thing in any book any sane man want to read. If you think it is, suggest a few examples.

>>24552390
I know what the topic of discussion is.
The problem is the examples you brought up aren't really examples of things that even really exist.

It's like complaining about the "Women in refrigerators" trope. It isn't a trope, it's always was just a feminist talking point to justify why more feminist were needed to dictate what happens in all of fiction. It was never a legitimate issue, trope, or consern. It's bullshit.

Just like the manic pixie dream girl isn't a real trope in male targeted fiction, it's just a feminist talking point.

And I don't even with the men wanting to be rescued by the princess nonsense. There isn't a demand from basically anyone for that. That is a inverse/subversion of men's desired tropes especially in romance. You got shit ass backwards on that one.