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Anonymous No.24555220 [Report] >>24555486 >>24555511 >>24555537 >>24555640 >>24555834 >>24556454 >>24556529 >>24557382 >>24557401 >>24558187 >>24559202 >>24560740 >>24561391
Shadow Ticket by Thomas Pynchon
Cover art revealed.

>Milwaukee 1932, the Great Depression going full blast, repeal of Prohibition just around the corner, Al Capone in the federal pen, the private investigation business shifting from labor-management relations to the more domestic kind. Hicks McTaggart, a onetime strikebreaker turned private eye, thinks he’s found job security until he gets sent out on what should be a routine case, locating and bringing back the heiress of a Wisconsin cheese fortune who’s taken a mind to go wandering. Before he knows it, he’s been shanghaied onto a transoceanic liner, ending up eventually in Hungary where there’s no shoreline, a language from some other planet, and enough pastry to see any cop well into retirement—and of course no sign of the runaway heiress he’s supposed to be chasing. By the time Hicks catches up with her he will find himself also entangled with Nazis, Soviet agents, British counterspies, swing musicians, practitioners of the paranormal, outlaw motorcyclists, and the troubles that come with each of them, none of which Hicks is qualified, forget about being paid, to deal with. Surrounded by history he has no grasp on and can’t see his way around in or out of, the only bright side for Hicks is it’s the dawn of the Big Band Era and as it happens he’s a pretty good dancer. Whether this will be enough to allow him somehow to Lindy-hop his way back again to Milwaukee and the normal world, which may no longer exist, is another question.
Anonymous No.24555486 [Report] >>24555685
>>24555220 (OP)
We can’t keep winning, Pynchonsistahs
Anonymous No.24555498 [Report] >>24555842 >>24568184
>Release date: October 7th
what did Pynchon mean by that?
Anonymous No.24555511 [Report] >>24555896
>>24555220 (OP)
hope some mutt or bong friend will buy and give a review on this book before it reaches my shithole country. I'm happy that we will be able to read a new pynchon book but sad that the story isn't set in the modern world. wish he had made a story based on trump-bibi election,NYC rabbi child trafficking tunnels,Russo-ukraine war etc. i guess he is not in touch with current world affairs.
Anonymous No.24555537 [Report] >>24555641 >>24555652 >>24556013 >>24557203 >>24557392
>>24555220 (OP)
Can someone redpill me on Pynchon? Who is he, and why does he seemingly have this mythos and almost cult-like following, similiar to Terry Davis? I've never read him.
Anonymous No.24555626 [Report]
>simple scripty 'A Novel'
really nigga, still?
Anonymous No.24555640 [Report] >>24555647
>>24555220 (OP)
Ahem .. My suicide is hereby postponed
Anonymous No.24555641 [Report]
>>24555537
he's a mystery.
Anonymous No.24555647 [Report]
>>24555640
lmao
Anonymous No.24555652 [Report] >>24555669 >>24555676 >>24555991 >>24557933 >>24558203 >>24559835
>>24555537
He's a great writer, legit in the top 5 greatest American writers ever, and many people share that opinion. His writing usually also deals with conspiracy theories, and they're always incredibly detailed and well-researched, you feel like you're being handed real-world practical social/political/historical revelations when you read Pynchon, he scratches this itch like no one else. And he's famously a recluse who has always declined all publicity so that just adds to his mystique. To top it off, there's multiple Shakespeare-esque theories that Pynchon is a group of different writers, that Pynchon is not a real person.
Anonymous No.24555669 [Report]
>>24555652
Damn, very interesting. Gonna snag some of his books.
Anonymous No.24555676 [Report] >>24555692
>>24555652
I don't know, he just sounds like a moderately eloquent version of the bog standard hippie boomer to me. Don't see what appeal that may have besides retro appeal in a post-Elementary Particles age.
Anonymous No.24555685 [Report]
>>24555486
Nosotros son Pynchoñistas
Anonymous No.24555692 [Report]
>>24555676
>a post-Elementary Particles age.
Houellebecq isn't that important.
Anonymous No.24555834 [Report]
>>24555220 (OP)
The billboard says "Artist Theatre". Apparently they are playing "Southern Fruits"(?) and then come the names of a bunch of relatively famous pre-WW2 actors and actresses.
Anonymous No.24555842 [Report] >>24555917
>>24555498
It's a birthday gift for me :)
Anonymous No.24555896 [Report]
>>24555511
He's almost always written about the past
Anonymous No.24555917 [Report]
>>24555842
I'm sure it was ;)
Anonymous No.24555991 [Report] >>24555999
>>24555652
That's a great summary of Pynchon. I don't like all the scholarship that sucks him off. He can literally be summarized as simply as this. The rest is your own interpretation.
Anonymous No.24555999 [Report] >>24556153 >>24557335
>>24555991
>I don't like all the scholarship that sucks him off.
>"He's a great writer, legit in the top 5 greatest American writers ever"
come on
Anonymous No.24556013 [Report] >>24561746
>>24555537
a more sophisticated phillip k dick
Anonymous No.24556153 [Report] >>24556192
>>24555999
It's one thing to acknowledge one's literary prowess, it's another when fags chase PhDs in English and choose him as the subject of their dissertations.
Anonymous No.24556192 [Report] >>24556201
>>24556153
You have it backwards. Grandiloquent praise is what that guy posted. Students talk about his work in a more objective and boring way.
Anonymous No.24556201 [Report]
>>24556192
>Students talk about his work in a more objective and boring way.
Okay, fair enough, but they're still sucking him dry, no?
Anonymous No.24556454 [Report] >>24556463 >>24556471 >>24557395 >>24557523 >>24563387 >>24564365 >>24565165
>>24555220 (OP)
What is exactly about Pynchon, out of all the "serious" and great writers, that compels people to go full heckin soi face? If, for example, it were announced a posthumous Roth novel will be published, people would be interested for sure, but I doubt people would start gaping their mouths while pointing at the covers signaling their heckin excitement. When McCarthy announced The Passenger and Stella Maris there was a bit of it, but I wouldn't say it was particularly bad. Just a couple of those cringe accounts on twitter that revolve around McCarthy. But when it comes to Pynchon instead, people go full into quirk chungus redditor mode. What's up with that?
Anonymous No.24556463 [Report]
>>24556454
I don't know. He has a cult following like no other American writer. I think in part it's due to the mystery. People find it exciting when they get a new book by this unknown entity.
Anonymous No.24556471 [Report]
>>24556454
Can you show us these pictures of bearded, bespectacled men pointing towards books?
Anonymous No.24556529 [Report] >>24556542
>>24555220 (OP)
He's probably running out of money and decided to wrote a book again because this doesnt seem to be something that was part of his plan
Anonymous No.24556537 [Report] >>24556545 >>24556565
Why is every Pynchon book since IV the same thing as IV but in a different time period?
Anonymous No.24556542 [Report] >>24556851 >>24558202
>>24556529
>decided to wrote
Pynchon is for English speakers only. Stick to whatever Hindi crap you pajeets read
Anonymous No.24556545 [Report] >>24556845
>>24556537
Because it'd be silly to make the same thing as IV in the same time period
Anonymous No.24556547 [Report] >>24557208 >>24557212
Saar bloody Pynchod is ran out money saar he release book to make million dollars!!!!
Anonymous No.24556562 [Report]
He's like genreshit but good
Anonymous No.24556565 [Report]
>>24556537
Because time is funny and silly and wacky... but also serious.
Anonymous No.24556845 [Report]
>>24556545
It’s called a typo, cracker.
Note: I am not a leftist anti-White racist, and I am actually likely to agree with most of your views on principle (e.g. we shouldn’t have mass immigration from poorer browner countries into the White European West, it just makes things shittier for the White Europeans already there who built the majority of those civilizations, and also leads to increasing ethnic/racial/religious strife. More of the migrants should instead have tried to stay in their own nations and fix them, or even have preferred moving to other nearby nations with similar ethno/racial/religious demographics. This modern agenda of forced extreme diversity is going to end up bad for MANY people, both the (semi-)native Whites and then even the browns and the like who get in, like Middle Eastern Muslims, who will both become the target of ire from the majority populations, which will be used to justify more heavy policing and anti-terrorism surveillance laws and the like, and also at least some of their kids will be taught to cut off their cocks and the like).

Regardless - big fucking rookie cracker mistake. “You made a fucking typo so you’re brown and ESL.”
Practically every fucking person makes occasional typos. You can’t judge shit based just on that one typo. It’s the nature of typing things while looking at a glowing screen.
Don’t respond to me, I’m going to be taking amphetamines and gooning, I don’t give a shit about your honky ass.
Anonymous No.24556851 [Report] >>24557226 >>24557275
>>24556542
It’s called a typo, cracker.

Note: I am not a leftist anti-White racist, and I am actually likely to agree with most of your views on principle (e.g. we shouldn’t have mass immigration from poorer browner countries into the White European West, it just makes things shittier for the White Europeans already there who built the majority of those civilizations, and also leads to increasing ethnic/racial/religious strife. More of the migrants should instead have tried to stay in their own nations and fix them, or even have preferred moving to other nearby nations with similar ethno/racial/religious demographics. This modern agenda of forced extreme diversity is going to end up bad for MANY people, both the (sometimes semi-)native Whites, and then even the browns and the like who get in, like Middle Eastern Muslims, who will both become the target of ire from the majority populations, which will be used to justify more heavy policing and anti-terrorism surveillance laws and the like, and also at least some of their kids will be taught to cut off their cocks and the like).

Regardless - big fucking rookie cracker mistake. “You made a fucking typo so you’re brown and ESL.”
Practically every fucking person makes occasional typos. You can’t judge shit based just on that one typo. It’s the nature of typing things while looking at a glowing screen.
Don’t respond to me, I’m going to be taking amphetamines and gooning, I don’t give a shit about your honky ass.
Anonymous No.24557203 [Report] >>24559162
>>24555537
>I've never read him.
FUCK OFF AND READ THEN
Anonymous No.24557208 [Report]
>>24556547
go back to /pol/
also, rent free
seek mental help
Anonymous No.24557212 [Report]
>>24556547
>Pynchod
Underrated
Anonymous No.24557226 [Report] >>24557233
>>24556851
>furious brown keyboard smashing
Anonymous No.24557233 [Report] >>24557269
>>24557226
>calls you cracker thinking white people are as sensitive
>"b-but I'm not a racist"
>anyways you can't be native only semi-native
>launches into a weird rant about trannies

Typical Pynchon thread to be honest.
Anonymous No.24557269 [Report]
>>24557233
You forgot
>calls major grammatical mistakes a result of typing the wrong key on a keyboard
Anonymous No.24557275 [Report]
>>24556851
wtf are you talking about
Anonymous No.24557286 [Report]
>Americans have invaded this thread and are talking about race again.
Ah! Pynchon is wasted on Americans desu
Anonymous No.24557335 [Report]
>>24555999
trips of truth
Anonymous No.24557382 [Report]
>>24555220 (OP)
>let's rehash Against the Day presumably with Tesla file tug of war and make throwaway Lanskey Levi et. al. foreign agents just like Unit 8200 in Bleeding Edge apropos of nothing without elaborating further, with plucky ethical socialist revolutionaries instead of anarchists reconnoitering the Chicago World Fair

It's already shit.
Anonymous No.24557392 [Report] >>24557398
>>24555537
>Can someone redpill me on Pynchon? Who is he

He was in signals intelligence in WW2. Gravity's Rainbow has a conspicuous knowledge of various German Wonder Weapon programs and related history that wouldn't become common knowledge academically or publically for another few decades after that. Crying Lot is hilarious. No one ought to read more than either of these. His Cornell Chum's Slaughterhouse-5 is far more significant than GR as a historical document and as literature; and his catalogue will have far greater staying power in print. His letter to Barth regarding Sotweed upon publishing Mason & Dickass marks him out as an enormous industry planted fag peddling badly typset obese doorstopper novels for Harold Bloom's mammon worshipping ilk to unduly glaze. What discernible talent is there is absolutely mid and insignificant to even the American Canon.
Anonymous No.24557395 [Report]
>>24556454
>What is exactly about Pynchon, out of all the "serious" and great writers, that compels people to go full heckin soi face?

He's the literary equivalent to Thunderf00t, with a veneer of Quentin Tarantino after the Inherent Vice adaptation. There's music for the tone deaf, and there's literature for the prosody deaf. It's for reddit stemcels. Updike is his twin. Ginsberg their trash coomer triplet.
Anonymous No.24557398 [Report]
>>24557392
>No one ought to read more than either of these.
Hats just dumb inherent vice is fantastic
Anonymous No.24557401 [Report] >>24557642
>>24555220 (OP)
period novels are so fucking gay. if i wanted 1930 lit i'd read a book written during the time.
Anonymous No.24557473 [Report] >>24557642
>1932
Lame, I would have done anything for a contemporary novel with modern topics
Anonymous No.24557523 [Report]
>>24556454
Its mostly just that he's alive and active. Normally these weirdos are past historical figures and we have all the answers, the full story. The fact we don't is what drives people nuts in both directions
Anonymous No.24557642 [Report] >>24557763
>>24557401
>>24557473
go back to instatok
fucking heathens
Pynchon's 1 word means more than your entire lives
Anonymous No.24557763 [Report] >>24559407
>>24557642
faggot simp
!ew4B6gxEuk No.24557812 [Report]
I'm already looking forward to his next book LOL
Anonymous No.24557933 [Report] >>24559406
>>24555652
He is shit
>many people share that opinion
Blatant lies
Anonymous No.24558165 [Report] >>24558185
hope you'll like it. i worked very hard on it :)
Anonymous No.24558185 [Report]
>>24558165
go on joe rogan pls
Anonymous No.24558187 [Report] >>24559357
>>24555220 (OP)
Clearly AI generated, you can tell by how badly scrambled the words in the sign are, it almost looks like some gibberish language rather than English
Anonymous No.24558202 [Report] >>24559366
>>24556542
What's with the random /pol/ posting? Did you get laid off?
Anonymous No.24558203 [Report] >>24558219
>>24555652
>legit in the top 5 greatest American writers ever
Sad if true
Anonymous No.24558219 [Report]
>>24558203
Who would you not consider sad picks?
Anonymous No.24559162 [Report]
>>24557203
This
Anonymous No.24559202 [Report] >>24559302 >>24560533
>>24555220 (OP)
Tommy Pinecone is the literal equivalent of "le heckin quirk chungus conspiracy theorist" that basedboys and women unironically live by thinking they're on the fringes of human thought.

>oh gee-weez, I spent all night reading up on the Roman empire and that le moon landing was fake XDDD i'm such a conspiracy nut

How anyone onions faces over Pynchon is still beyond me.
Anonymous No.24559302 [Report] >>24560435
>>24559202
>moon landing
>roman empire
Ruggles has never talked about these things. You haven't read him, it's clear, you have no basis for your critique.
Anonymous No.24559357 [Report]
>>24558187
>hungarian
>some gibberish language
how dare you
Anonymous No.24559366 [Report] >>24559829
>>24558202
nta, but i've never had a job
Anonymous No.24559406 [Report] >>24559429
>>24557933
You're just making shit up just for the sake of it
Anonymous No.24559407 [Report]
>>24557763
Retarded nonwhite
Anonymous No.24559429 [Report] >>24559431
>>24559406
That's what pychud faggots do
Anonymous No.24559431 [Report] >>24560051
>>24559429
So you?
Anonymous No.24559829 [Report]
>>24559366
How old are you? What do you do for money?
Anonymous No.24559835 [Report]
>>24555652
>To top it off, there's multiple Shakespeare-esque theories that Pynchon is a group of different writers, that Pynchon is not a real person.
because he makes half his books regurgitated slop from his researchers
Anonymous No.24560051 [Report]
>>24559431
What?
Anonymous No.24560151 [Report] >>24560181 >>24560187
>World finance is secretly backed by vaults of tulips held at each central bank, but THEY don't want you to know!

i saw this in a comment on a technology brother forum and i was like that should be in pynchon's new shit
Anonymous No.24560181 [Report] >>24560185
>>24560151
It really is the kind of zany shit Pynchon would come up with. I remember liking Pynchon quite a bit in my early 20s. But now I find him stressful. Reading Pynchon feels like how it must feel being one of those full blown schizophrenics whose hallucinations keep telling them nonsensical things as if they were a huge revelation of the inner workings of society and the universe.as a whole.
Anonymous No.24560185 [Report]
>>24560181
yeah i used to love pynchon but i haven't read him in a while i've kind of aged out of reading chore books
Anonymous No.24560187 [Report]
>>24560151
>They
QUIII??????
Anonymous No.24560370 [Report]
>guy figures out literature is dead and people will overanalyze anything if they think they’re supposed to
>intersperses war capeshit with quirk chungus RANDUM XD conspiracies and song lyrics
>”figure it out retards lmao”
>bloombabbies earnestly and fastidiously interpreting the most elaborate shitpost in human history
I kneel
Anonymous No.24560435 [Report] >>24560709
>>24559302
I never said he mentioned those things. I'm saying that that's the tier he's working on as well as the ledditors that s o y face for him
Anonymous No.24560533 [Report] >>24561430
>>24559202
Take a look at this new fag that got word filtered twice in one post
Anonymous No.24560709 [Report] >>24561430
>>24560435
>that's the tier he's working on
How odd, it's almost like you don't know what he actually writes about
Anonymous No.24560740 [Report]
>>24555220 (OP)
I used to really like the Pokler section in GR. It was really the only section after the first part that I truly liked. But after learning about the holohoax it lost a lot of its luster. Anyone else had a similar experience?
Anonymous No.24561116 [Report]
Wow lotta filtered fags here
Anonymous No.24561391 [Report] >>24561409 >>24561423
>>24555220 (OP)
Why americans act like bloated, quirck chungus novels, are the epitome of art?
Anonymous No.24561409 [Report] >>24562895
>>24561391
>~300 pages
>Bloated
Pynchon hasn't written a door-stopper since Against the Day.
Anonymous No.24561423 [Report]
>>24561391
The US is about creating excess. Big burgers, big trucks, big books.
Anonymous No.24561430 [Report] >>24561470
>>24560533
>le word filtersss XD back to r*ddit amirite, guys?
I'll type however the fuck I wanna type, faggot.

>>24560709
>y-you just don't get it okay?!?
Literally just Rick and Morty "you actually have to be high IQ to get it!" rhetoric.
Anonymous No.24561470 [Report] >>24562413
>>24561430
Mad
Anonymous No.24561746 [Report]
>>24556013
k dick
Anonymous No.24562413 [Report]
>>24561470
>Mad
When pressed, the Pynchsimps ad hom
Anonymous No.24562895 [Report] >>24564183 >>24564356
>>24561409
Do we have confirmation that the page count is 300? I'm kind of expecting this one to be a doorstopper.
Anonymous No.24563387 [Report] >>24564346
>>24556454
It's like madoka and cowboy bebop had a child what's not to get?
Anonymous No.24564183 [Report]
>>24562895
Apart from Penguin's website, that's it. I'd imagine that it's about the same length as Inherent Vice and Bleeding Edge. His most recent work tends to be more slim compared to the tomes that are M&D, GR, AtD, and V.
Anonymous No.24564346 [Report]
>>24563387
nice country song
Anonymous No.24564356 [Report]
>>24562895
pynchon gave up doorstoppers after against the day got panned
Anonymous No.24564365 [Report] >>24564500 >>24567094
>>24556454
I don’t get that sense at all. Feels like you just don’t like his work or think he’s overrated and had to find a way to say that but lacked the cultural context. Reddit chungus types seem to like shit like Andy Weir or Blake Crouch. I’ve never encountered such autistic consumerism for Pynchon. Hell outside of /lit/ I barely see this shit mentioned but I’m not really ever on Reddit, unlike you it would seem.
Anonymous No.24564500 [Report] >>24564519 >>24564539
>>24564365
Pynchon is the most reddit writer imaginable. Go to r/literature or r/truelit, all the libtards there get their politics from him. Reddit and /lit/ are the only two spaces that think that he belongs with the greats
Anonymous No.24564519 [Report] >>24564523 >>24564531
>>24564500
i bet if u search for it there's a dostoyesvky subreddit or whatever for it too
Anonymous No.24564523 [Report]
>>24564519
>https://www.reddit.com/r/dostoevsky/
omg dostoevsky is REDDIT!!!1
Anonymous No.24564531 [Report] >>24564538
>>24564519
Dostoevsky is ridiculously famous. Pynchon is not, yet his subreddit is half the size.
Anonymous No.24564538 [Report] >>24564724 >>24564850
>>24564531
that's because pynchon is actually good rather than sentimental drivel
Anonymous No.24564539 [Report] >>24564724
>>24564500
>Pynchon is the most reddit writer imaginable
Saying it twice doesn’t give this any sort of meaning. The two writers I named are much more “Reddit” with their heckin “science the hell out of it”, plucky characters, childish Whedon-esque dialogue and dumbed down accessibility.

Quantify what you think makes Pynchon “Reddit”.
Anonymous No.24564724 [Report] >>24564796 >>24564870 >>24564910
>>24564538
Pynchon is shit.
>>24564539
Most of the subs that discuss literature don't even entertain posts on either of them. Andy weir's subreddit has 28k members. Pynchon's has 25k and Weir is substantially more mainstream than Pynchon. Basic arithmetic tells us that Pynchon has a greater percentage of fans that are redditors than weir does. Aka reddit writer.
Anonymous No.24564796 [Report]
>>24564724
Yes Mrs. Anon, everything's reddit.
Anonymous No.24564850 [Report] >>24564930
>>24564538
Are you kidding me? Pynchon is as sentimental as Dostoevsky. The only reason it's less noticeable is because absurdity is default in pynchon
Anonymous No.24564870 [Report] >>24564932
>>24564724
>I got filtered by Pynch therefore he's Reddit
You're brown.
Anonymous No.24564910 [Report]
>>24564724
You still have yet to explain what makes Pynchon “Reddit” you faggot fuck.
Anonymous No.24564921 [Report]
this nigga still alive?
Anonymous No.24564930 [Report]
>>24564850
Not really
Anonymous No.24564932 [Report]
>>24564870
>implying this hasn't been the standard argument on /lit/ for years
Anonymous No.24565165 [Report]
>>24556454
his whole style is a precursor to the soiboi, it's le epin irony, anything resembling a coherent plot would be too serious and cringe
Anonymous No.24565253 [Report] >>24565321 >>24566655
>The big contemporary novel is a perpetual-motion machine that appears to have been embarrassed into velocity. It seems to want to abolish stillness, as if ashamed of silence—as it were, a criminal running endless charity marathons. Stories and sub-stories sprout on every page, as these novels continually flourish their glamorous congestion. Inseparable from this culture of permanent storytelling is the pursuit of vitality at all costs. Indeed, vitality is storytelling, as far as these books are concerned. If, say, a character is introduced in London, call him Toby Awknotuby (that is, “ To be or not to be”—ha!) then we will be swiftly told that he has a twin in Delhi (called Boyt, which is an anagram of Toby, of course), who, like Toby, has the same very curious genital deformation, and that their mother belongs to a religious cult based, oddly enough, in the Orkney Islands, and that their father (who was born at the exact second that the bomb was dropped on Hiroshima) has been a Hell’s Angel for the last thirteen years (but a very curious Hell’s Angels group it is, devoted only to the fanatical study of late Wordsworth), and that Toby’s mad left-wing aunt was curiously struck dumb when Mrs. Thatcher was elected prime minister in 1979 and has not spoken a word since. And all this, over many pages, before poor Toby Awknotuby has done a thing, or thought a thought!

He was right.
https://newrepublic.com/article/61361/human-inhuman
Anonymous No.24565321 [Report]
>>24565253
>plotfag filtered
Anonymous No.24566655 [Report]
>>24565253
Pynchon bros… we got exposed
Anonymous No.24567094 [Report]
>>24564365
>I don’t get that sense at all
I didn't much either, until this book was announced and I saw people reacting to the news on X (formerly Twitter). Pure unfiltered soi facing over it. You genuinely would think it was redditors reacting to a new Avengers movie or something. Then I lost all of my respect for Pynchon.
Anonymous No.24568184 [Report]
>>24555498
Meds