Thread 24555943 - /lit/ [Archived: 248 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:56:48 PM No.24555943
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How can he be a pessimist and a moralfag? Why would he not advocate for being mighty and immoral instead of moralfagging? Even the buddhism that he's inspired by is more immoral than his philosophy.
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 12:01:15 AM No.24556350
pessimism is a moral position
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 12:23:31 AM No.24556407
I think he covers this at one point. Leaning into the will like that instead of denying it just leads to desire burning stronger. He actually says at one point pretty explicitly that shitty immoral people suffer the most in this world, because the will burns stronger in them, and they don't have the escape of aesthetics or denial of the will.

Schopenhauer thinks that people's personalities are pretty much hard set, and ethical education doesn't matter much. People with empathy are empathetic, people without it are unempathetic, and there's little that can be done about that.
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 12:25:18 AM No.24556414
>>24556350
This is just false
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 12:57:34 AM No.24556514
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Do you like suffering, because that's how you suffer. If you'd bothered to read him or even his wiki you would know, like buddhism, the goal of his ethics is to not suffer. Like the goal of his aesthetics.
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 1:42:01 AM No.24556640
schopenhauer's pessimism was that masses are immoral and masses always win against the moral minority that is capable of establishing a community worth being a part of.
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 1:54:33 AM No.24556674
>>24556407
So being immoral = bad because you'll personally suffer more?
>>24556514
>>24556640
Would Schopenhauer see his mother getting raped and not intervene?
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 2:00:59 AM No.24556694
>>24556674
have you considered spending time in a different field that is more suited for your mental capacity? maybe playing video games, drawing, or sports?
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 2:02:25 AM No.24556697
>>24556694
I make more money than you, while you mentally masturbate over some dead dudes thoughts
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 2:09:03 AM No.24556711
>>24556697
what do you do for a living?
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 2:12:21 AM No.24556721
he wanted to reduce peoples suffering you dip. thats the whole thing, thats why he gets compared to Buddhism

he thinks the world is shit so why should we go around being assholes and making it shittier

he was big on the idea of compassion for fellow man and animal
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 2:12:56 AM No.24556723
>>24556711
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 2:17:43 AM No.24556734
>>24556723
there's no way you're making more than me bud.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 3:43:35 AM No.24556938
>>24555943 (OP)
>Why would he not advocate for being mighty and immoral instead of moralfagging?
isnt that nietzsches philosophy?
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 4:01:35 AM No.24557013
>>24556721
>Compassion
Terrible mistake, 99% of people are worthless.

>>24556938
Not at all.