To condemn suicide is the ultimate moral fraud, a sanctimonious lie told by a society that happily accepts manipulation, suffering, and the cold elimination of others, yet flinches at the prospect of an individual judging their own existence to be unworthy. This is not a matter of circumstantial sadness (a failed romance, a lost job, etc.) but a rational, ethical verdict against the very structure of life, a terminal condition whose fundamental state is pain and whose inevitable trajectory leads to moral disqualification. When the relentless grind of being erodes your capacity to live as a moral agent, clinging to life becomes the true act of cowardice, a base submission to biological instinct. The great philosophers, from Kant with his convenient asymmetries to Heidegger with his fear of truly owning one's death, failed to grasp this. To choose your end is the ultimate act of moral agency, an overcoming of nature that is far more profound than mindlessly continuing to live at any cost. My non-being is my own negative patrimony, an inalienable right I need not earn and for which I need no one's permission. The real philosophical question is not why one would choose to die, but rather, given the structural horror of it all, how anyone manages to keep on living.

>>24556048 (OP)
suicide is gay

>>24557307
OP BTFO

>>24557307
Ooooooh

Suicide is murder at the hands of society.

>>24558790
Maybe I’d feel all right about becoming a martyr to a more intelligent society, but this one? Pass.

>>24556048 (OP)
>Kant with his convenient asymmetries
What do you mean?

>>24558790
Blaming others for your own actions is just a sign of immaturity.
By all means kill yourself (right now, if you like) but at least take responsibility for it.

>>24556048 (OP)
>To choose your end is the ultimate act of moral agency
This is true if you are already approaching death, and have nothing but pain and suffering to look forward to. But the rest of the passage just reeks of failure, as we see here:-
>a terminal condition whose fundamental state is pain
What he means is, he settled for a life of pain and lacked the courage and agency to seek happiness on his own terms.
If you must take advice, it's best not to take it from losers.

>>24556048 (OP)
>dead matter forms in specific order inherited through happenstance
>born as a genetically preset but undefined mind made of matter and energy
>matter performs signs of life before real consciousness, thus it lives
>grows up, inbibes norms
>learns of sudoku
>mind fails itself, commits the deed
>matter loses order, likely lacking heirs to carry it on
>matter and energy eaten by worms
>worm performs signs of life, miniscule as a worm's metabolism may be
>alive again

You can't get off this ride.

>>24556048 (OP)
Ivan was a retard.