Anonymous
7/17/2025, 3:49:25 AM No.24556964
You WILL read C.S. Lewis.
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Thread 24556964 - /lit/ [Archived: 187 hours ago]
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 3:51:37 AM No.24556974
>>24556964 (OP)
He should of realized he was right when he thought there was no christian god
He should of realized he was right when he thought there was no christian god
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 5:22:06 AM No.24557240
>>24556964 (OP)
Yes, I will
Yes, I will
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 5:32:55 AM No.24557270
>>24556982
yes its clear this man has been absolutely ABOLISHED
yes its clear this man has been absolutely ABOLISHED
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 5:38:01 AM No.24557279
I of course read Narnia as a kid. I read Screwtape and Til We Have Faces, and liked them both.
How's his nonfiction? What do you guys recommend?
How's his nonfiction? What do you guys recommend?
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 5:40:37 AM No.24557285
>>24556964 (OP)
>tfw you've been meaning to read that hideous strength for years since it's classic Christian literature then find out it's part of a sci-fi trilogy
What the fuck
>tfw you've been meaning to read that hideous strength for years since it's classic Christian literature then find out it's part of a sci-fi trilogy
What the fuck
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 5:44:06 AM No.24557294
>>24557279
read the discarded image
>>24557285
you'll enjoy the trilogy if you read it, it's not exactly sci-fi how you'd typically think of it
in fact, it is in part a critique of the standard sci fi genre books
highly recommend
but ultimately, you dont need the previous two books to get the last one
read the discarded image
>>24557285
you'll enjoy the trilogy if you read it, it's not exactly sci-fi how you'd typically think of it
in fact, it is in part a critique of the standard sci fi genre books
highly recommend
but ultimately, you dont need the previous two books to get the last one
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 6:35:48 AM No.24557388
>>24556964 (OP)
Dude literally wrote a lesbian rape scene, police-themed. You are not ready.
Dude literally wrote a lesbian rape scene, police-themed. You are not ready.
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 7:45:02 AM No.24557506
He claimed he gave up masturbation, to be more Godly and Christ centered man.
What do you think boys do we believe him?
What do you think boys do we believe him?
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 2:15:41 PM No.24558169
>>24557506
I agree that that the stuff about ‘wastage of vital fluids’ is rubbish. For me the real evil of masturbation would be that it takes an appetite which, in lawful use, leads the individual out of himself to complete (and correct) his own personality in that of another (and finally in children and even grandchildren) and turns it back: sending the man back into the prison of himself, there to keep a harem of imaginary brides.
And this harem, once admitted, works against his ever getting out and really uniting with a real woman. For the harem is always accessible, always subservient, calls for no sacrifice or adjustments, and can be endowed with erotic and psychological attractions which no real woman can rival.
Among these shadowy brides he is always adored, always the perfect lover: no demand is made on his unselfishness, no mortification is ever imposed on his vanity. In the end, they become merely the medium through which he increasingly adores himself.
Do read Charles Williams’ Descent into Hell, and study the character of Mr. Wentworth. And it is not only the faculty of love which is thus sterilized, forced back on itself, but also the faculty of imagination.
The true exercise of imagination, in my view, is (a) To help us to understand other people (b) To respond to, and, some of us, to produce art. But it has also a bad use: to provide for us, in shadowy form, a substitute for virtues, successes, distinctions, et cetera which ought to be sought outside in the real world — e.g., picturing all I’d do if I were rich instead of earning and saving.
Masturbation involves this abuse of imagination in erotic matters (which I think bad in itself) and thereby encourages a similar abuse of it in all spheres.
After all, almost the main work of life is to come out of our selves, out of the little, dark prison we are all born in. Masturbation is be avoided as all things are to be avoided which retard this process. The danger is that of coming to love the prison (Lewis, Yours, Jack, 292-293).
I agree that that the stuff about ‘wastage of vital fluids’ is rubbish. For me the real evil of masturbation would be that it takes an appetite which, in lawful use, leads the individual out of himself to complete (and correct) his own personality in that of another (and finally in children and even grandchildren) and turns it back: sending the man back into the prison of himself, there to keep a harem of imaginary brides.
And this harem, once admitted, works against his ever getting out and really uniting with a real woman. For the harem is always accessible, always subservient, calls for no sacrifice or adjustments, and can be endowed with erotic and psychological attractions which no real woman can rival.
Among these shadowy brides he is always adored, always the perfect lover: no demand is made on his unselfishness, no mortification is ever imposed on his vanity. In the end, they become merely the medium through which he increasingly adores himself.
Do read Charles Williams’ Descent into Hell, and study the character of Mr. Wentworth. And it is not only the faculty of love which is thus sterilized, forced back on itself, but also the faculty of imagination.
The true exercise of imagination, in my view, is (a) To help us to understand other people (b) To respond to, and, some of us, to produce art. But it has also a bad use: to provide for us, in shadowy form, a substitute for virtues, successes, distinctions, et cetera which ought to be sought outside in the real world — e.g., picturing all I’d do if I were rich instead of earning and saving.
Masturbation involves this abuse of imagination in erotic matters (which I think bad in itself) and thereby encourages a similar abuse of it in all spheres.
After all, almost the main work of life is to come out of our selves, out of the little, dark prison we are all born in. Masturbation is be avoided as all things are to be avoided which retard this process. The danger is that of coming to love the prison (Lewis, Yours, Jack, 292-293).
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 2:19:59 PM No.24558174
>>24558169
In a later letter to a different man, C. S. Lewis wrote this about masturbation:
The evidence seems to be that God sometimes works such a complete metamorphosis and sometimes not. We don’t know why: God forbid we should presume it went my merit.
He never in my unmarried days did it for me. He gave me–at least and after many ups and down, the power to resist the temptation so far as the act was concerned. He never stopped the recurrent temptations, nor was I guarded from the sin of mental consent. I don’t mean I wasn’t given sufficient grace. I mean that I sometimes fell into it, grace or no.
One may, I suppose, regard this as partly penal. One is paying for the physical (and still more the imaginative) sins of one’s earlier life. One my also regard it as a tribulation, like any other. The great discovery for me was that the attack does not last forever. It is the devil’s lie that the only escape from the tension is through yielding.
… Disgust, self-contempt, self-hatred–rhetoric against the sin and (still more) vilification of sexuality or the body in themselves–are emphatically not the weapons for this warfare. We must be relieved, not horrified, by the fact that the whole thing is humiliating, undignified, ridiculous; the lofty vices would be far worse.
Nor must we exaggerate our suffering. We talk of ‘torture’: five minutes of really acute toothache would restore our sense of proportion! In a word, no melodrama. The sin, if we fall into it, must be repented, like all our others. God will forgive. The temptation is a darn nuisance, to be born with patience as long as God wills.
On the purely physical side (but people no doubt differ) I’ve always found that tea and bodily weariness are the two great disposing factors, and therefore the great dangers. Sadness is also a danger: lust in my experience follows disgruntlement nearly always. Love of every sort is a guard against lust, by a divine paradox, sexual love is a guard against lust. No woman is more easily and painlessly abstained from from, if need be, than the woman one loves. And I’m pretty sure purely male society is an enemy to chastity. I don’t mean a temptation to homosexuality: I mean that the absence of ordinary female society provokes the normal appetite (Lewis, Yours, Jack, 307-308).
In a later letter to a different man, C. S. Lewis wrote this about masturbation:
The evidence seems to be that God sometimes works such a complete metamorphosis and sometimes not. We don’t know why: God forbid we should presume it went my merit.
He never in my unmarried days did it for me. He gave me–at least and after many ups and down, the power to resist the temptation so far as the act was concerned. He never stopped the recurrent temptations, nor was I guarded from the sin of mental consent. I don’t mean I wasn’t given sufficient grace. I mean that I sometimes fell into it, grace or no.
One may, I suppose, regard this as partly penal. One is paying for the physical (and still more the imaginative) sins of one’s earlier life. One my also regard it as a tribulation, like any other. The great discovery for me was that the attack does not last forever. It is the devil’s lie that the only escape from the tension is through yielding.
… Disgust, self-contempt, self-hatred–rhetoric against the sin and (still more) vilification of sexuality or the body in themselves–are emphatically not the weapons for this warfare. We must be relieved, not horrified, by the fact that the whole thing is humiliating, undignified, ridiculous; the lofty vices would be far worse.
Nor must we exaggerate our suffering. We talk of ‘torture’: five minutes of really acute toothache would restore our sense of proportion! In a word, no melodrama. The sin, if we fall into it, must be repented, like all our others. God will forgive. The temptation is a darn nuisance, to be born with patience as long as God wills.
On the purely physical side (but people no doubt differ) I’ve always found that tea and bodily weariness are the two great disposing factors, and therefore the great dangers. Sadness is also a danger: lust in my experience follows disgruntlement nearly always. Love of every sort is a guard against lust, by a divine paradox, sexual love is a guard against lust. No woman is more easily and painlessly abstained from from, if need be, than the woman one loves. And I’m pretty sure purely male society is an enemy to chastity. I don’t mean a temptation to homosexuality: I mean that the absence of ordinary female society provokes the normal appetite (Lewis, Yours, Jack, 307-308).
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 2:21:55 PM No.24558177
>>24558169
>For me the real evil of masturbation would be that it takes an appetite which, in lawful use, leads the individual out of himself to complete (and correct) his own personality in that of another (and finally in children and even grandchildren) and turns it back: sending the man back into the prison of himself, there to keep a harem of imaginary brides.
Is in it just as likely to prevent a man from fornication? Post-nut clarity?
Different people are constituted differently
>For me the real evil of masturbation would be that it takes an appetite which, in lawful use, leads the individual out of himself to complete (and correct) his own personality in that of another (and finally in children and even grandchildren) and turns it back: sending the man back into the prison of himself, there to keep a harem of imaginary brides.
Is in it just as likely to prevent a man from fornication? Post-nut clarity?
Different people are constituted differently
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 2:24:21 PM No.24558180
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 2:25:05 PM No.24558181
>>24557285
The trilogy is very light sci-fi. More science fantasy with a lot of autism about linguistics. Lewis felt that good Christian literature should tell a good story first and weave Christian themes and elements into it. That’s why it’s considered classic Christian lit.. He was critical of Christian fiction that is an awful retelling of Biblical stories with a light dressing of other story on top like a lot of modern Christianslop fiction/music/film/etc.
The trilogy is very light sci-fi. More science fantasy with a lot of autism about linguistics. Lewis felt that good Christian literature should tell a good story first and weave Christian themes and elements into it. That’s why it’s considered classic Christian lit.. He was critical of Christian fiction that is an awful retelling of Biblical stories with a light dressing of other story on top like a lot of modern Christianslop fiction/music/film/etc.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 2:27:04 PM No.24558183
>>24558177
>Is in it just as likely to prevent a man from fornication? Post-nut clarity?
Yeah thats his point I think. However, If you never nut in a woman you're never really loving anyone besides yourself. Cooming "turns it back" in the end.
>Is in it just as likely to prevent a man from fornication? Post-nut clarity?
Yeah thats his point I think. However, If you never nut in a woman you're never really loving anyone besides yourself. Cooming "turns it back" in the end.
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 2:44:06 PM No.24558210
>>24558183
He's describing goon sessions which really are tremendous imaginative feats. No wonder he wrote fairy books
>And this harem, once admitted, works against his ever getting out and really uniting with a real woman. For the harem is always accessible, always subservient, calls for no sacrifice or adjustments, and can be endowed with erotic and psychological attractions which no real woman can rival.
I don't get the reasoning. If I have sexual desires and try to enact them in the real world, the result isn't automatically going to be positive. More likely, I'll get some girl involved in a situationship and then get bored.
Of imagination:
>But it has also a bad use: to provide for us, in shadowy form, a substitute for virtues, successes, distinctions, et cetera which ought to be sought outside in the real world — e.g., picturing all I’d do if I were rich instead of earning and saving.
So not only should we chase the whore, but also mammon.
I feel like carnal desires and sexual love operate on a totally different plane so stopping "the real evil of masturbation" isn't necessary going to lead to sexual love. Most nofappers just encourage sexual contact (less risky now with no venereal disease)
He's describing goon sessions which really are tremendous imaginative feats. No wonder he wrote fairy books
>And this harem, once admitted, works against his ever getting out and really uniting with a real woman. For the harem is always accessible, always subservient, calls for no sacrifice or adjustments, and can be endowed with erotic and psychological attractions which no real woman can rival.
I don't get the reasoning. If I have sexual desires and try to enact them in the real world, the result isn't automatically going to be positive. More likely, I'll get some girl involved in a situationship and then get bored.
Of imagination:
>But it has also a bad use: to provide for us, in shadowy form, a substitute for virtues, successes, distinctions, et cetera which ought to be sought outside in the real world — e.g., picturing all I’d do if I were rich instead of earning and saving.
So not only should we chase the whore, but also mammon.
I feel like carnal desires and sexual love operate on a totally different plane so stopping "the real evil of masturbation" isn't necessary going to lead to sexual love. Most nofappers just encourage sexual contact (less risky now with no venereal disease)
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 5:35:56 PM No.24558561
>>24557388
lmao I chuckled at that scene too, really was not expecting any of that to be in that book lol
also lord feverstone is based and didn't deserve to die in the end
lmao I chuckled at that scene too, really was not expecting any of that to be in that book lol
also lord feverstone is based and didn't deserve to die in the end
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 9:21:46 PM No.24559227
>>24556964 (OP)
I still believe he's underrated.
I still believe he's underrated.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:04:12 AM No.24560038
>>24556964 (OP)
I still am amazed he wasn't a Catholic.
I still am amazed he wasn't a Catholic.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:29:32 AM No.24560112
Screwtape is a fun light read.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 11:32:44 AM No.24560724
>>24560678
Of course
Of course
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 11:36:45 AM No.24560730
>>24560644
I'm gonna be honest with /lit/: I've had too many supernatural occurrences in my life to have this attitude. I've seen oddities of the Moon, I've heard and seen sights and sounds that made no sense, I've experienced baffling serendipities and more. Maybe Einstein could have this attitude, but I cannot. To me the supernatural, the miraculous, and the religious are too real to deny.
I'm gonna be honest with /lit/: I've had too many supernatural occurrences in my life to have this attitude. I've seen oddities of the Moon, I've heard and seen sights and sounds that made no sense, I've experienced baffling serendipities and more. Maybe Einstein could have this attitude, but I cannot. To me the supernatural, the miraculous, and the religious are too real to deny.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:24:12 PM No.24561365
>>24558210
>More likely, I'll get some girl involved in a situationship and then get bored.
I think he'd say having sex with a woman you have no intention of marrying is as bad or worse than masturbation. probably worse. the long term idea is marriage.
>More likely, I'll get some girl involved in a situationship and then get bored.
I think he'd say having sex with a woman you have no intention of marrying is as bad or worse than masturbation. probably worse. the long term idea is marriage.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:31:12 PM No.24561382
>>24560644
>he gives a shit about what Einstein had to say
lol, lmao even
pick a better scientist to quote
instead you pick the most astroturfed scientist in the world
the one that even retarded crackheads know about, because he's promoted as being "top #1 super smart dude"
and I wonder why?
it couldn't possibly be his connection to Israel ... naaaah, he's probably just the smartest guy in the whole world better than all the rest totally not a plagiarist and a fraud
>he gives a shit about what Einstein had to say
lol, lmao even
pick a better scientist to quote
instead you pick the most astroturfed scientist in the world
the one that even retarded crackheads know about, because he's promoted as being "top #1 super smart dude"
and I wonder why?
it couldn't possibly be his connection to Israel ... naaaah, he's probably just the smartest guy in the whole world better than all the rest totally not a plagiarist and a fraud
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:58:47 PM No.24561563
>>24560730
Meds
Meds
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 8:02:05 PM No.24561572
>>24561382
The Bible says you should obey the Jew as your master. Jesus himself is quoted as saying "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel". Cope and seethe, slave.
The Bible says you should obey the Jew as your master. Jesus himself is quoted as saying "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel". Cope and seethe, slave.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 8:04:57 PM No.24561580
>>24561382
>he gives a shit about what Newton had to say
lol, lmao even
pick a better scientist to quote
instead you pick the most astroturfed scientist in the world
the one that even retarded crackheads know about, because he's promoted as being "top #1 super science dude"
and I wonder why?
it couldn't possibly be his connection to anglxsphere ... naaaah, he's probably just the smartest guy in the whole world better than all the rest totally not a plagiarist and a fraud
>he gives a shit about what Newton had to say
lol, lmao even
pick a better scientist to quote
instead you pick the most astroturfed scientist in the world
the one that even retarded crackheads know about, because he's promoted as being "top #1 super science dude"
and I wonder why?
it couldn't possibly be his connection to anglxsphere ... naaaah, he's probably just the smartest guy in the whole world better than all the rest totally not a plagiarist and a fraud
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 8:06:29 PM No.24561583
>read a pedophile who hates white people and worships jews
No thanks, I’m good.
No thanks, I’m good.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 8:06:44 PM No.24561584
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 8:09:39 PM No.24561594
>>24560644
Wasn't this the same guy who said "God doesn't play dice". In the end most scientist end up becoming christians.
>24561572
The devil is more wicked with a bible under his arm. Wipe your nose before using scripture and come back with more than verses out of context
Wasn't this the same guy who said "God doesn't play dice". In the end most scientist end up becoming christians.
>24561572
The devil is more wicked with a bible under his arm. Wipe your nose before using scripture and come back with more than verses out of context
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 8:27:34 PM No.24561653
>>24561365
Does not masturbating make you more likely to fall in love?
I’m not sure
It’s probably dependent of several factors
I find the advice in that letter unsatisfying, but its just a letter
Does not masturbating make you more likely to fall in love?
I’m not sure
It’s probably dependent of several factors
I find the advice in that letter unsatisfying, but its just a letter
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 8:44:20 PM No.24561711
Voyage of the Dawn treader and Magicians nephew are the best Narnia books btw
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 9:08:02 PM No.24561767
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 12:04:25 AM No.24562265
>>24561572
this is unrelated to einstein, however
not even a christian but cs lewis >>>>>>>> einstein x 1,000,000
>>24561580
lol
this is unrelated to einstein, however
not even a christian but cs lewis >>>>>>>> einstein x 1,000,000
>>24561580
lol
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 12:09:35 AM No.24562280
>>24562265
CS Lewis was majorly cringe. Narnia is okay for kids, but his theological stuff is all bunk.
CS Lewis was majorly cringe. Narnia is okay for kids, but his theological stuff is all bunk.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 12:18:18 AM No.24562303
>>24556964 (OP)
>Jewish storm god's son real cuz we feel bad when we do mean stuff
Nice swiss cheese tier argument that a 10 year old could debunk. Do Christcucks really fall for this shit?
>Jewish storm god's son real cuz we feel bad when we do mean stuff
Nice swiss cheese tier argument that a 10 year old could debunk. Do Christcucks really fall for this shit?
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 12:27:47 AM No.24562334
>>24562265
Let’s stack them up, shall we?
Einstein
>created the the theory of relativity
>proved the speed of light is the same in all reference points
>proved spacetime is curved by gravity
>proved the mass energy equation
>pro-palestine
Meanwhile Lewis
>raped children
>worshipped dead jew mummy
>instilled pedo jew slave morality on millions of white children under the guise of childrens literature
Let’s stack them up, shall we?
Einstein
>created the the theory of relativity
>proved the speed of light is the same in all reference points
>proved spacetime is curved by gravity
>proved the mass energy equation
>pro-palestine
Meanwhile Lewis
>raped children
>worshipped dead jew mummy
>instilled pedo jew slave morality on millions of white children under the guise of childrens literature
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 5:46:42 AM No.24563229
>>24557285
you don't even have to read out of the silent planet or perelandra which are both absolute shit, just skip straight to that hideous strength
you don't even have to read out of the silent planet or perelandra which are both absolute shit, just skip straight to that hideous strength
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 5:51:27 AM No.24563239
>>24562334
>Lewis raped children
Lewis if anything had a thing for muscle mommies. He'd fit in well in /r9k/.
>Lewis raped children
Lewis if anything had a thing for muscle mommies. He'd fit in well in /r9k/.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 6:03:24 AM No.24563262
>>24556964 (OP)
Whats the difference between him and chesterton? I always see them mentioned together
Whats the difference between him and chesterton? I always see them mentioned together
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 7:16:17 AM No.24563411
>>24562334
Lewis was the epitome of slave morality
Lewis was the epitome of slave morality
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 7:27:21 AM No.24563426