What do you guys think of this fucker? - /lit/ (#24558335) [Archived: 240 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/17/2025, 4:18:37 PM No.24558335
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Is he worth my time or is he just another psuedo
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 4:23:37 PM No.24558350
Certain good ideas but a terrible person. Reading him isn't going to present any solutions to le dangerous technology.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 4:24:47 PM No.24558355
>>24558335 (OP)
Narcissistic psuede who deeply lacks self awareness.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 4:25:36 PM No.24558362
The question is: is it worth wasting MY time by posing YOUR lazy questions as to what you should and should not read because you are TOO WEAK AND LAZY to simply read an except and ARRIVE AT YOUR OWN "CONCLUSIONS" YOU SPINELESS SHRIMP
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 4:32:09 PM No.24558379
>>24558335 (OP)
why do you need us to tell you what to think? that’s fucking retarded
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 4:40:22 PM No.24558405
**Core Thesis:** Kaczynski argues the Industrial Revolution and its technological consequences have been an **unmitigated disaster** for humanity—destabilizing society, causing widespread psychological suffering (and physical suffering in the Third World), inflicting severe environmental damage, and stripping individuals of dignity and autonomy. He posits that technology's relentless advancement **inevitably narrows human freedom** and that the industrial-technological system **cannot be reformed**; it must be destroyed through revolution to prevent the complete engineering and control of human beings.

**Detailed Breakdown:**

1. **The Problem:**
* Kaczynski delves into the **psychological damage** inflicted by industrial society. He identifies the core issue as the disruption of the **"power process"**—a fundamental human need comprising four elements: **Goal**, **Effort**, **Autonomy in Effort**, and **Attainment of Goal**. Modern life, he argues, provides only **artificial goals** (surrogate activities like careers, sports, or scientific pursuits) and minimal genuine effort—especially effort requiring autonomy. Physical necessities fall into group one (easily satisfied with minimal effort), while drives like security fall into group three (impossible to fully satisfy due to systemic complexity and control). This deprivation leads to **"surrogate activities"**—pursuits undertaken merely for the *feeling* of fulfillment (e.g., Hirohito's marine biology, stamp collecting, excessive careerism)—which fail to provide true satisfaction.
* He delves further into the consequences: widespread **feelings of inferiority, powerlessness, low self-esteem, defeatism, depression, chronic boredom, and purposelessness**. The system imposes **excessive rules, regulations, and psychological pressures**—crowding, rapid social change, the breakdown of small-scale communities (family, village, tribe)—forcing individuals into conformity and dependence on large, remote organizations. Individuals lack control over life-and-death decisions affecting them.

2. **Analysis of "Modern Leftism":**
* Kaczynski delves extensively into what he terms "modern leftism"—encompassing socialists, feminists, gay rights activists, political correctness advocates, animal rights activists, etc.—viewing it primarily as a **psychological phenomenon** symptomatic of the system's problems, rather than a coherent ideology.
* He attributes it to two key psychological drivers:
* **Feelings of Inferiority/Low Self-Esteem:** Manifested as hypersensitivity to "politically incorrect" terminology, intense identification with perceived "weak" groups (women, minorities, disabled, animals), hatred of strong/successful entities (America, Western civilization, white males, rationality), rejection of competition, attraction to art focused on sordidness/despair,
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 4:41:48 PM No.24558407
>>24558405
and dismissal of science/reason/objective reality (as they categorize beliefs as superior/inferior). Kaczynski delves into how this stems from an inability to tolerate classifications of success/failure.
* **Oversocialization:** A subset of leftists (often intellectuals/upper-middle class) are so intensely socialized that society's demanding moral code becomes an unbearable internal burden. They suppress "unclean" thoughts/feelings and experience severe guilt, leading to a sense of constraint and powerlessness. Their rebellion takes the form of imposing society's *own* mainstream moral principles (equality, helping the poor, peace, environmentalism) more rigorously—accusing the system of violating its professed values. Kaczynski argues this is **not genuine rebellion** against the system's basis, but rather an attempt to perfect it.
* He delves into the assertion that leftist activism, while often justified by compassion or morality, is primarily driven by **hostility and the drive for power**, using social problems as an outlet. Leftism is characterized as **collectivist, totalitarian in tendency**, and ultimately compatible with—even dependent on—the technological system it superficially critiques.

3. **Technology's Inevitability and Power:**
* Kaczynski delves into why reform is impossible. Technology is a **unified system**; its "good" parts (like advanced medicine) cannot be separated from its "bad" effects (like enabling genetic engineering and population growth). Attempting to restrain specific technologies fails because they become necessities—delve into the automobile example: initially optional, it reshaped society (cities, regulations, dependence) making itself essential.
* Technology progresses in **only one direction**—never regressing voluntarily. Its advance is driven by technicians/scientists (engaged in surrogate activities) and the system's inherent logic. Each new technology appears desirable individually, but cumulatively they drastically narrow the sphere of human freedom and autonomy.
* Technology is a **far more powerful social force** than the aspiration for freedom. Resistance is fragmented, overwhelmed by the number and speed of technological threats, and lacks the intense commitment revolutionaries might muster. Social arrangements (laws, ethics) are transitory, while technological advances are permanent within a civilization.

4. **The Future and Control:**
* Kaczynski delves into the dystopian future if the system survives its current stresses (economic, environmental, behavioral). To ensure stability, the system **must** gain unprecedented control over human behavior. This will be achieved through increasingly sophisticated methods: **surveillance, propaganda, psychological techniques** ("mental health" programs, parenting techniques, education),
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 4:42:49 PM No.24558409
>>24558407
**drugs** (antidepressants to make conditions tolerable), and ultimately **biological engineering** (genetic modification, neurological intervention).
* Human beings will be **adjusted to suit the system's needs**—engineered for docility, specialized function, or "sublimated" power drives into harmless channels. This control won't necessarily arise from overt totalitarian intent, but incrementally as "rational solutions" to societal problems (crime, stress, education gaps, productivity), often with humanitarian justifications. Individual freedom will vanish, replaced by engineered satisfaction within a tightly controlled existence.

5. **Revolutionary Strategy:**
* The **only solution** is revolution against the entire industrial-technological system—not political reform, but the destruction of its economic and technological basis. Kaczynski delves into why revolution is paradoxically *easier* than reform: it inspires intense commitment by offering a radical new world (return to nature) rather than partial solutions.
* The core tasks are:
* **Promote social stress and instability** within the system to weaken it.
* **Develop and propagate an anti-technology ideology** centered on "wild nature" (including untamed human nature) as the counter-ideal. This ideology must be **resolutely anti-leftist** (due to leftism's inherent collectivism and compatibility with technological control).
* Revolutionaries must focus **solely on destroying the system**—avoiding political power until collapse is imminent, rejecting collaboration with leftists, and refusing other goals (like social justice) that would necessitate retaining technology. The revolution must be **international**.
* He delves into the grim calculus: revolution will cause immense suffering (chaos, population decline), but argues this is preferable to the permanent dehumanization and engineered misery guaranteed by the system's survival. The scars of industrial society will heal only after its demise.

**Conclusion:** Kaczynski presents a stark, deterministic, and deeply pessimistic view of industrial society as an engine of psychological destruction and enslavement, driven by an unstoppable technological logic. His solution—revolutionary destruction of the system—is framed as a desperate, necessary act to reclaim wild nature and genuine human autonomy, even at catastrophic cost. The text delves relentlessly into the mechanisms of control, the psychology of submission and rebellion, and the futility of reform, culminating in a call for a violent rupture with modernity.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 4:43:07 PM No.24558411
>>24558335 (OP)
He’s not really wrong, but there’s no point to his message as we are powerless to resist for now.
The manifesto is also rather poorly written, but I suppose that is besides the point.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 4:46:38 PM No.24558418
>>24558405
People who use LLM to write shitposts on 4chan should be sent to concentration camps.
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 4:50:01 PM No.24558426
>>24558418
It’s the same guy doing it in all the threads.
Don’t bother replying to him.