Thread 24558648 - /lit/ [Archived: 64 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/17/2025, 6:17:03 PM No.24558648
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We're a dying breed.

If you exclude women reading femgooner slop and YA novels very, very few people read.
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 6:19:23 PM No.24558658
because books are retarded
imagine being so full of yourself that you yap for 600 pages to get a point across that could have been summarized in twenty
reading for the sake of reading and not for streamlined information transfer is cringe
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 6:24:00 PM No.24558670
>>24558648 (OP)
even on /lit/ we're a dying breed
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 6:25:31 PM No.24558674
>>24558648 (OP)
>tenured professor
jew detected
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 6:27:45 PM No.24558682
>>24558658
terrible bait
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 6:32:47 PM No.24558698
z
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>>24558674
he's a slimy fuck
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 7:09:01 PM No.24558792
>>24558648 (OP)
been dying since the day i was born
summer thread
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 7:13:51 PM No.24558800
>media spams 100000 articles gloating about how no one publishes white men
>no one reads anymore anyways
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 7:14:43 PM No.24558805
>>24558648 (OP)
Literary fiction in [CURRENT YEAR] is a fringe artform. There's MAYBE 500,000 people in America who read seriously, and that's being generous
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 7:15:27 PM No.24558807
Our PSYCHIC DESTINY is the ALTERATION of REALITY-FABRIC wherein IDENTITY BECOMES ABILITY therein WRITING will be the act of being a WRITER and READING will be the act of being a READER and neither will require WRITING NOR READING THEMSELVES but merely the POSTURING TOWARDS SUCH ENDS should we MASTER THIS SUBLIMATION OF INPUT AND OUTPUT BONAFIDE TELEPATHY WILL BE POSSIBLE AND ANCENDANCE GAURANTEED
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 2:28:19 AM No.24559841
Low tier demoralization trash. Even the AI posters are more effective than this. Literary fiction has never been mainstream. Blood meridian went out of print until all the pretty horses got the spotlight. Got McCarthy on Oprah. You write whatever you want then publish some normie shit as the chaser. If you don’t get it it doesn’t matter you’ll never make it anyways.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 2:33:09 AM No.24559850
>>24558648 (OP)
I’m in uni on a high level course and I have to stop students from using ChatGPT as a source. If you finished school even a few years ago let alone a decade or more you have no idea. We’re going to be responsible for people’s health and they’re asking the AI for answers. I can’t even imagine how useless less hard degrees will be.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 2:34:09 AM No.24559853
>>24558698
doesnt such a database exist and isnt it called wikipedia
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 2:34:11 AM No.24559854
>>24558648 (OP)
>zoomers don't read
Meanwhile at the publishing companies:
>this book is great but it was written by a white male so better luck next time
People read all the fucking day on the internet. They have the ability, but they have no reason to read slop, and I don't blame them.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 2:36:29 AM No.24559860
>>24559854
reading a sports game recap or a reddit or facebook post or something obscene like twitter doesn't count bud
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 2:37:01 AM No.24559861
>>24559853
They rarely say it outright, that's why the Early Life meme started.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 2:37:33 AM No.24559863
>>24559850
I finally cracked and started using AI instead of google. It's good for somethings but most of the time it gets answers wrong and confidently so.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 2:39:12 AM No.24559867
>>24559860
You just revealed more about yourself than the person you're attacking.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 2:41:11 AM No.24559873
>>24559850
AI is only useful in education for students who have managed to misunderstand the purpose of education.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 2:41:48 AM No.24559876
>>24559850
A humanities degree is just a stamp of vague approval at this point: you have to go out of your way to network and engage with professors to get any kind of career outcome, and even at the end you’d probably be a lot more successful exerting that same effort within a STEM degree. If you aren’t serious about writing then don’t go to school for it: cormac ate beans from a tin can like a hobo because he didn’t want to work. Lazy bum.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 2:42:19 AM No.24559879
>>24559860
You don't need to be a literature scholar to read novels, anon.
>>24559863
Google sucks now but yeah AI still confabulates a lot.
Primary source chads stay winning.
>>24559873
If you're one of those "it teaches you how to think" people I will reach through the screen...
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 2:42:59 AM No.24559883
>>24559854
No I'm a teacher and many students can't actually read at all, I've got 13 year olds who can't read their own name we're teaching them "C A T- cat"
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 2:45:06 AM No.24559888
>>24559883
Yeah because you’re either a new teacher or a really shitty old teacher that works at a crappy school. Go print out more Nike stencils for the kids to color out instead of applying your limited experience to the entirety of the country.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 2:45:11 AM No.24559889
>>24559883
What. You can't even access brainrot at that level of literacy.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 2:47:39 AM No.24559894
>>24559888
Yeah I'm sure this is my fault.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 2:50:43 AM No.24559898
>>24559894
Less posting, more printing. And don’t skimp on the crayola. Daquavius wants to color his Nikes PACIFIC BLUE. Not blue-green or maximum blue. He can tell the difference you cheap fuck
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 2:52:51 AM No.24559900
>>24559898
>Daquavius
Anon, the kids are white.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 2:57:01 AM No.24559908
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>>24559900
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 2:59:28 AM No.24559916
>>24559867
but i didnt attack anyone, characterizing my post as an attack might reveal a bit about you
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 3:10:37 AM No.24559933
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>>24558648 (OP)
I've been reading full length visual novels for nearly two decades by now

It is, in fact, reading
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 3:12:49 AM No.24559940
>>24559900
>anon, the kids are white
Where? Iceland???
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 3:20:44 AM No.24559955
>>24558648 (OP)
Maybe they don't like doing it, or need to get used to it, but this doomsaying isn't helping anybody. I like them better than I like these faggots or you if you act the same way.

They are essentially saying that the neurology of an entire generation of human beings has degenerated our species beyond the point of no return. And this happened because they watched.... le videos.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 3:40:22 AM No.24559990
>>24559861
Funny thing is I started searching up Early Life before I even knew that meme existed
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 5:07:19 AM No.24560182
>>24559850
>tfw graduated in 2023
Last chopper out.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 5:34:33 AM No.24560246
>>24558648 (OP)
As a 2000 zoomer, its not that I lack the technical reading skills. But when you read something, there is always a degree of expectation from the act if reading. Maybe its catharsis, maybe its the pleasure of watching the scenes plays out. In a novel length book, these “payoffs” are spread sporadically throughout the hundred of pages. The fillers in between which makes up the majority of a book, while reinforced the endorphine rush from these payoffs, are ultimately not exactly what you are looking for when you picked up a book. Compare this to journal length articles, WNs, video essays, and other intellectual slops where the payoffs are far more condensed or at the very least, the desirable parts are more identifiable.
Now, for me personally, the irony is, my OCD tendencies that has forced me in the past reading every single word in a /lit/ work. Has now work against me by forcing me to cut corners due to the ampount of stuff floating in the internet that caught my eyes.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:00:17 AM No.24560291
>>24559940
this may surprise you but there are dumb white kids too even though black kids may be “overrepresented” among the dumb kids
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:00:37 AM No.24560292
>>24558648 (OP)
>be Aaron Gwyn
>your main interest is writing about McCarthy
>some woman come out saying she had an affair with McCarthy when she was 16 and loved each second of it and loved him till his death
>you ask for forgiveness for having dedicated your life to write about McCarthy
>swear you will never write about him ever again
Why are moder western men like this, bros?
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:09:20 AM No.24560306
>>24559933
This is true and based. What we need to do is adapt old works to a modern format for the zoomers while not compromising accuracy. VNs happen to work perfectly for this.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:09:22 AM No.24560308
>>24558805
And out of those people, most of them only read classics and won't touch a contemporary novel with a tent pole. Truth is, the novel is an exhausted medium. No one finds puzzling that sculpture is culturally irrelevant nowadays. No one finds it puzzling that academic/cultivated music is extremely niche and has no bearing on the zeitgeist. But for some reason people expect the novel, the literary novel to still be relevant. Let it go. Mediums and formats grow old and only survive as a hobby for the few. And frankly, the sooner it dies the better, as that will weed out the people who still latch into it because they think it confers them a badge of sophistication, who at the moment happen to be most of the people in the "literary fiction" eco system, from the retarded readers who think books are accessories, like Waldun or Dakota Warren, to all the shit inane writers like Sally Rooney and Ottessa Moshefag.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 2:59:54 PM No.24560996
ChatGPT released like 3 years ago. No way people develop such a dependency on it that they forgot the 9 years of pre-AI basic education that they received. All these AI dumbing people down scaremongering is annoying as fuck. It's not anymore disruptive than students copying their friends' work or paying the nerds to do it for them.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 3:09:11 PM No.24561010
>>24560996
Before AI they just used wikipedia and sparknotes. Before that, they would literally purchase Cliffnotes printed on ink and paper. It isnt solely AI's fault. AI is just the latest, even more idiot proof, iteration of lazy morons letting others think for them.

Suddenly you know why Amazon has Alexa, and Microsoft has Cortana, and Apple has Siri. It's so illiterate people can do online shopping. And the worse illiteracy becomes, the more necessary these voice activated bots become.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 3:11:34 PM No.24561014
>>24558800
kek
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 3:15:50 PM No.24561021
>>24560996
Ummmmm. You sure about that? People can quickly become dependent on technology. Billions are spent to ensure that very thing happens.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 3:17:52 PM No.24561023
>>24560996
as if getting raised on an ipad didnt create the perfect storm for retardation. lil niggas cooked fr fr on my momma
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 3:19:55 PM No.24561027
>>24560996
do you not remember the pandemic, lockdowns and stuff? do you not understand that millenials are terrible parents?
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 3:29:45 PM No.24561042
>>24561027
Can't be worse than xcucks if broccoliheads are any indication.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 3:40:50 PM No.24561063
>>24561021
Yeah but dependency does not equal instantly becoming retarded

>>24561023
>>24561027
Those things didn't get as nuch flak as AI does now. Ipad kids was more of people laughing at stupid kids. People already forgot the pandemic happened. I was just complaining that AI caused so much seething, panic, and doomsaying online when it's really nothing special or new. It definitely has the potential to dumb people down but many people are overreacting.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 3:40:54 PM No.24561064
>>24559933
I've been thinking of this for years now. Converting to comics/graphic novels so there is less to read and visual output. I don't detest reading, it's just I have issues with absorbing it all and reading persistently for a long time.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 3:45:40 PM No.24561071
>>24559860
genuinely, why not?
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:24:37 PM No.24561126
>>24559933
It is, in fact, looking at pictures, you semi-literate ape. Comics are for children.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:34:24 PM No.24561152
>>24560246
you are devoid of a soul and never going to make it
>muh ocd adhd tism
typical zoom. it's just reading, faggot.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:45:04 PM No.24561184
>>24559933
>>24560306
>>24561064
Back to your containment board, trannies:-
>>>/co/
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:49:34 PM No.24561192
>>24560308
>And out of those people, most of them only read classics and won't touch a contemporary novel with a tent pole.
Honestly, unless a recent novel has incredibly high acclaim (Bolano, Krasznahorkai, Vargas), I'm not gonna bother with it when there's thousands of classics I still haven't read. Why would I waste my time reading a modern novel that has a good chance of being slop when I can take the relatively safe choice of reading a novel that has already proven at least some value by surviving the passage of time? Sure, you occasionally get baited into reading some pulpy stuff that somehow gained the status of "classic", but overall, it's a much safer bet.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:56:50 PM No.24561212
reading poetry in this day and age feels glorious ngl
an aristocratic sort of feeling
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 5:02:29 PM No.24561225
>>24561064
>it's just I have issues with absorbing it all and reading persistently for a long time.
holy whine.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 5:15:46 PM No.24561239
>>24559873
That includes whole nations and ethnicities.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 12:48:37 AM No.24562391
>>24559889
>Siri: [say what you want your phone to do and in what app]
You literally can, and most apps now are designed to be navigated without needing the ability to read. Think about a fast food menu with pictures.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 12:51:00 AM No.24562394
>>24558648 (OP)
Women are still more likely to pick up Shakespeare than men
Vidya and porn replaced books for numen, it's time to get over it
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:05:08 AM No.24562424
>>24558648 (OP)
I don't have this experience with fiction, but with non-fiction, I do find chatGPT's simple structural breakdowns quite helpful. If you ask her a question, you'll receive a numbered list of points that are sorted by paragraph each of which is very easy to consume.

With human writers, I often have to disentangle their various mixed paragraphs in my head. After a day or two, what seemed interesting or profound at the time turns out to have only appeared that way because of its confusing presentation. A lot of postmodern writing is like that. I wouldn't call it conceptually simple but it's really not so difficult as to justify rereading the same paragraph five times on account of opaque writing.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:15:20 AM No.24562460
>>24562424
>her
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:18:06 AM No.24562470
>>24559933
>visual novels
might as well be the same as playing videogames or watching youtube
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:22:54 AM No.24562488
>>24562424
Lots of what ChatGPT will tell you is just straight up false. You have trouble disentangling human writers because you never practice reading anything complicated. You've let yourself become stupid.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:25:46 AM No.24562498
>>24558658
But enough about French philosophy
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:38:50 AM No.24562543
>>24562488
I do practice reading things that are complicated. My post already mentioned postmodern philosophy which is known for its difficult writing. The issue is that a lot of writing is unnecessarily complicated which ultimately harms the communication of ideas.
>You have trouble disentangling human writers because
Because their writing is simply more confusing. They might introduce several concepts at once and then only follow up on a few of them or they might jump around in a way that breaks focus. Aristotle does both of these and my version of NE is full of footnotes trying to explain what's going on, which I take to be an acknowledgement that the text is confusing by nature.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 4:54:18 AM No.24563107
>>24560996
If it's ruined formal education in just 3 years, what do you think it will accomplish in 10 or 20?
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 7:22:48 AM No.24563416
>>24558648 (OP)
But we won't go extinct.
500 years from now young adults will learn Old English 2 just to read books from the 19th - 21st century and immerse themselves in the past still.
They just won't be our legacy and won't be reading any of the books we wrote.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 12:58:01 PM No.24563926
I struggle with books these days. I still read long form articles and stuff but unless the book is really interesting I just fuck it off. I haven't read fiction since I was about 17. I have just downloaded a batch of book that are theory heavy for my industry but I'm skim reading them because authors have to put a load of fluff to meet word counts. I just want the relevant info and I'm cool with that.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:17:05 PM No.24563952
>>24562470
No, actually, there's visual novels that are actually profound like Umineko
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 2:06:37 PM No.24564039
>>24563926
>I have just downloaded a batch of book that are theory heavy for my industry
>but I'm skim reading them
Try picking up fiction that you might be interested in reading. You’ve turned reading (a hobby) into reading (your work). Reading for pleasure/leisure is about reading the words, fluff included, and experiencing the story, not getting the sparknotes. Reading for work is the opposite.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 6:43:47 PM No.24564695
>>24563416
What contemporary books do you think they'll consider "classics" in five hundred years?
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 6:54:51 PM No.24564727
burger scholarship
burger scholarship
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>>24564695
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 2:44:36 AM No.24565986
>>24560308
why do you hate dakota warren?
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 2:50:46 AM No.24566002
>>24562543
That doesn't really address the issue that ChapGPT and other AI programs just make shit up all the time. Multiple lawyers have been disbarred because they ask chapGPT shit like "give me caselaw that helps me win my case" and it will just invent cases despite being plugged into lexis.
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 3:03:29 AM No.24566030
>>24566002
Our own governments and historical institutions make shit up all the time. That's why we have flat earthers and holocaust deniers and on and on, twelve deep backed up with people who have been deliberately taught the wrong shit so that they're no longer a competitive threat. And really, even that doesn't matter because we've got so much of humanity that just doesn't need to be here and isn't really needed in any capacity. You could reasonably eliminate most of the human race, even the part that actually works, and just stop moving shit around so much, instead of having massive logistics and beaurocratic institutions that only exist to practice the economics of economics for their own sake.

The issue is not fakery on an individual level, its that we're unwilling or unable to address any of our real problems on an institutional level because so many individuals have a vested interest in subverting institutions. The rot is the point, its working as intended.
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 6:16:28 AM No.24566453
>>24561010
I work a phone job and talked with a woman yesterday who changed her name and now couldn't spell her own last name without and I quote "pullin out my ID."

I read Stephen King's Cell in one 72 hour sitting.
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 6:59:58 AM No.24566519
>>24558698
These things are always funny because you can often find such projects /by/ jews because they love ethnic self promotion. It’s a but like how “black owned businesses” are listed and promoted but of course such a list for whites would be racism.
We’re also currently in an era where the left is making the list of jewish created and owned products including media, something they would normally call fascist, because of Gaza and deciding they hate jews again (for being genocidal nazis etc).

The world is so amazingly stupid.
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 7:04:10 AM No.24566528
>>24560996
You’re putting a lot of faith in post-wall roasties from degree mill universities in the Midwest that can barely made it to remedial calculus after staying all night at the frat for a Thursday party to elevate the minds of the youth anon
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 7:06:45 AM No.24566533
>>24566528
Could barely make*
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 7:17:47 AM No.24566557
>>24558648 (OP)
Is all of /lit/ just midwits jerking themselves off?
Reading a book isn't impressive, I used to go through one full sized novel a day when I was in school
You're comparing yourselves to the biggest losers in undergrad as if it means something. I just got my undergrad degree a few months ago, graduated with high distinction, and newsflash a lot of people still read
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 7:21:56 AM No.24566562
>>24566557
Most anons here don’t even read. Or at least they haven’t read as much as they pretend. /lit/ is no different than the rest of 4chan, it’s just /pol/ and incel shit with a dash of books. Mostly those books are just window dressing though for the important things- /pol/shit and incel things
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 8:22:59 AM No.24566629
>>24559916
Another miss.
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 8:30:07 AM No.24566633
>>24560246
Insightful post
>>24561152
Annoying faggot
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 8:30:48 AM No.24566634
>>24566557
Who says anything about it being impressive? People seem to be saying that it's sad that the youth has lost the ability to do something as simple and easy as reading a novel. Also from your post it sounds like you yourself have never actually learned how to read properly. You don't read through a full sized novel in 1 day, you skim through it. Your idea of "fast = impressive" is part of why your generation has become so brainrotted and stupid. Reading a novel at 5x speed is the same as watching a movie at 5x speed, it becomes completely pointless because you have deprived yourself of the actual experience and at that point you might as well just read a quick summary on wikipedia or have chatGPT give you a summary.
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 9:07:38 AM No.24566675
>>24559873
How does AI obstruct creation of oversocialized worker drones?
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 9:12:12 AM No.24566679
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>>24565986
JEALOUSY
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 9:12:53 AM No.24566681
>>24559894
Its the fault of education system, and as extension yours, since you are a teacher. If you expect kids to teach themselves to read, education system is useless and failing in it wouldn't matter at all.
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 12:00:19 PM No.24566815
>>24566634
Don't mistake me for you, I'm fully capable of reading a novel in a day and understanding it.
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 12:37:15 PM No.24566859
>>24566815
Let's hear your thoughts on War and Peace.
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 12:46:25 PM No.24566871
>>24566859
It's mid frfr no cap.
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 1:29:01 PM No.24566910
>>24566557
You used to read and now you don’t. Somehow this is an argument reading is not impressive in a thread about the decline of reading.
You then brag about having an undergrad as if that /is/ impressive.
Your newsflash about “a lot of people still read” is undercut by your own story, as something you did in school. Which is exactly the point being made in these threads.

I think you have a lot deeper problems than your projections and hostility, your thinking doesn’t even make coherent sense when it comes to formulate a point. So much for the rigor of academic training mr high distinction.
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 2:22:11 PM No.24567014
>>24566910
There’s a lot of smugness here by anons who totally shouldn’t be smug
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 8:35:00 PM No.24567680
>>24566002
Westlaw chads win again
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 8:42:57 PM No.24567703
>>24566910
Who gives a fuck about reading, the world's a giant slave fortress that runs on blood and privation. Read your way out of it
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 8:52:45 PM No.24567745
>>24560246
You should try poetry. Since every word is placed with care, the linguistic payoffs can be quite rapid. When I lost my attention span in high school I switched largely to poetry. Some prose writers also have that level of density, even old ones like Nashe or Browne in the 16th/17th centuries. Short stories like GK Chesterton's also have strong entertainment value alongside linguistic/descriptive/philosophical vibrance.
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 8:57:28 PM No.24567756
>>24560996
Basic education doesn't exist anymore. It's just extended daycare. If you don't make yourself academically competent on your own you're not gonna make it at all. It's been that way a while now, but since school laptops it's been getting harder for people to build themselves up. With ipads in elementary it got way worse, and now with AI, well. It's all done and over with. I'm in university now, and we're all genuine retards. We work at the level of an illiterate somalian with FAS, and the work and grading is all retard stuff, too. What's best is that the universities accepted this state of things before it even came to pass. They began tailoring the courses for AI before it even became very widespread (and not even to counter it, but to remove any issues that might arise from it). The idea of education as anything other than a way to get work or produce propaganda for the system will die within 50 years.
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 8:58:33 PM No.24567761
>>24567756
Nah. There will always be curious cats
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 9:05:24 PM No.24567779
>>24567761
Yes. Individuals. Irrelevant on the scale of things, certainly not enough to keep our institutions viable. They'll write very niche but landmark papers on things that are forgotten after being outdated or shown wrong or useless
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 9:12:35 PM No.24567794
>>24567779
Didn't our institutions enslave the entire world to a system of profit and kill their children if they rebelled with chemical weapons?
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 9:23:01 PM No.24567813
>>24566910
>and now you don’t.
You're implying a loss of ability to do so, which isn't supported by anything I said in my post. I used to go through an entire novel in a day when I was in highschool, I still do so now when I physically have enough time to. There's no loss of ability implied anywhere in my post, simply a loss of time because unlike most of /lit/ I'm not a worthless neet.
I'm not even going to bother reading the rest of your post, you already defeat your own point in the first sentence.
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 9:31:06 PM No.24567831
>>24567794
lmao. I don't know, I guess I'll ask my professors about the history of our juridical department
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 9:51:28 PM No.24567877
>>24558648 (OP)
Whoever reads books doesn't value their own time. Zoomer students are actually clever compared to millenials. I get it that boomers didn't do it like we do because they had no youtube but these day and age reading an entire book is waste of time when AI can give it contents as bullet points
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 10:20:56 PM No.24567929
>>24567877
An entire book cannot be reduced to bullet points. The whole point is to read the whole book, you learn lots of nuanced and varied things about the character and the story. Not to mention the stuff you learn about life, relationships, history and other topics from descriptions and passages that wont be mentioned in the summary but are important nonetheless. You cant emotionally and thinkingly connect with a bullet point. If all you read about the book is couple of bulletpoints you read in 5 seconds then the whole experience doesnt have the weight and seriousness of actual learning. You wont take it seriously and will forget it in time it took you to read it( 5 seconds)
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 10:28:22 PM No.24567949
>>24567877
Cheap troll, but of what value is a summary of a novel to me? It's not like I'm reading it primarily to learn facts, as if it's a textbook. I'm reading it to experience the prose and immerse myself in the history—imagined or otherwise—and the world of the story.
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 11:14:49 PM No.24568055
>>24564695
I would not know because I avoid contemporary work. Best to let the future generations decide what they like.
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 12:06:28 AM No.24568203
>>24568055
If you're ever held at gunpoint and forced to answer trivia questions relating to literature, your chance of survival will be much higher.
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 12:07:29 AM No.24568208
>>24568203
>>24567949
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 8:26:52 AM No.24569091
>>24558648 (OP)
That was always the case.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 8:49:32 AM No.24569124
>>24567877
What exactly is it you and other zoomers are doing with your valuable time that you saved by not reading a book though? I think "wasting time" with healthy activities like reading, exercising, meditation etc is a great thing as it reduces the total amount of time you have during the day that you can spend on the brainrot dopamine farming activities that most people these days are addicted to.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 9:01:02 AM No.24569141
>>24559850
It makes no sense. The chatgpt stuff started becoming popular in my last 2 years of uni but I NEVER even thought of using it. Literally how do people justify this to themselves it beggars belief.
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 9:08:12 AM No.24569152
Fiction might die and that's very sad but non fiction will always remain
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 9:55:14 AM No.24569213
>>24566910
BTFO
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 3:43:45 PM No.24569803
>>24566681
>Its the fault of education system, and as extension yours, since you are a teacher.
NTA but that's precisely why I stopped being a teacher a few years back and I'm now a construction worker.
The system is still shit, but at least it's not my fault anymore.
My back hurts but I now I can do whatever the fuck I want with my free time.
By the way my own kids are fine, properly educated and well behaved, so at least there is that.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 3:44:55 PM No.24569806
>>24558658
lets streamline it then: youre a failed midwit hiding behind engagement bait on a taiwanese basket weaving website
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 3:49:22 PM No.24569811
>>24569141
The real depression sight is on other forums where the OP posts entirely using AI, and when called out, says they don't see the problem or even difference between posting in their own words versus AI because "the thoughts are the same." It's so over.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 3:53:01 PM No.24569820
>>24559850
Lol I plan on returning to school after a decade out, am I cooked or do I have a huge advantage here? I always did good in humanties too.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 3:57:44 PM No.24569827
>>24558658
bait but true. many books are very repetitive. a lot of the non fiction I read now I don't finish the whole book.. it's like they get one idea that could've been a few pages and then just come up with many applications that are obvious.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 3:59:16 PM No.24569833
>>24567756
>The idea of education as anything other than a way to get work or produce propaganda for the system will die within 50 years
>within 50 years
Anon I…
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 4:03:00 PM No.24569840
>>24562394
If dogs were more likely to pick up Shakespeare it wouldn’t be of any consequence. Women can’t understand Shakespeare so it makes no difference.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 4:08:46 PM No.24569852
>>24569833
Yeah I know, but there are still a lot of naive people around and autists who just want to keep working with their surrogate activities
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 4:19:17 PM No.24569898
>>24558648 (OP)
Its going to come back. The internet was a book substitute for men and boys, I would say people in the 21st century were reading more than ever before.
But now that the internet is turning into an AI slop and shitskin dump triple digit IQ people will turn their backs on it and find something else to do which will probably be reading for a lot of them.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 4:26:29 PM No.24569914
>>24559850
AI is good too brainstorm when you are by yourself, but when it comes to answers, it's terrible.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 4:38:22 PM No.24569951
1738567225245643
1738567225245643
md5: f89f1d7b08b09e0102f14ce9248198d5🔍
>>24558648 (OP)
I'm sick of all these failed normie self-congratulatory threads that have been cropping up on /lit/. Yes, people reading decent lit is increasingly rare. Yes, most women read shitty literature, if at all. Do you failed normies feel le special now? Fuck off, fagets
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 4:50:00 PM No.24569975
>>24559850
>We’re going to be responsible for people’s health and they’re asking the AI for answers.
Whats bad about this? No more weeks long wait for that doctor appointment where he asks you questions pretends to listen to your pulse, and then writes something down for you to go get at the pharmacy.
Lets just cut the doctor jew out of this cycle.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 5:14:32 PM No.24570013
>>24561192
I think people might try contemporary litfic if the premise is appealing, but it's hard to stumble upon even a promising premise.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 5:19:22 PM No.24570018
>>24567813
He never implied you lost the ability to read you doubleretard
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 5:20:08 PM No.24570019
>>24558698
>it is malevolent to target authors for their ethnicity
That’s what they have spent the last 10+ years doing against Europeans
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 11:06:09 PM No.24570905
>>24558648 (OP)
>we're a dying breed
Who's we, faggot? Reading was never for the unwashed masses. Go find another hugbox
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 11:09:33 PM No.24570916
frog maxxxing
frog maxxxing
md5: 34f8cd4ab0b753d31c07655aa543aa84🔍
>>24570905
basé
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 11:18:24 PM No.24570933
why are you american
why are you american
md5: 0ca91357f63eef4e69775a64683315ae🔍
>>24570916
C'est vraiment chiant a ce point de voir tous ces cons se branler et faire des jeremiades en croyant qu'ils sont speciaux parce qu'ils ont lu un tout p'tit mccarthy en 3 mois
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 11:36:35 PM No.24571008
>>24567756
The education system has always been like that. If you don't push yourself (or have asian parents that will) you are never going to get anything meaninful out of it.
At least some universities are scrapping online exams now.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 11:44:45 PM No.24571026
>>24570933
la raison pour laquelle je ne donnerai jamais mes fleurs aux anglophones
qu'ils mangent des charognes sorties de l'enfer poliqitue
et aux grenouilles la couronne des belles-lettres
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 11:59:36 PM No.24571069
>>24558658
Complex information and feelings that can only be summarized and expressed in 300+ printed pages. There's no going around this. Learn how to deal with lengthy blocks of words. That's literally your best and only way, as a human, to present and understand complex information about anything.
And no, video essays or lectures won't have the same impact on you, if only for the fact that you are just passively receiving someone's words and can space out at will. Reading requires your full attention, which means you will retain and understand complex information better than you would by just listening to someone speaking.
I am purposedly turning this into a longpost now because I think you should honestly worried about how large the potential for royally fucking a non-reading generation in the ass is. Someone who isn't capable to process complex information also loses any ability to distinguish between reliable and non-reliable information, which means you become most vulnerable to any sort of proapaganda - a modern version of a medieval illiterate farmer, ready to believe whatever the local priest says (only there's now 1000 local priests at war with each other).
You can literally measure how much the level of public discourse has gets lowered in passing from expert discussion to the newspaper form (from books to articles) and then from articles to the popularized talk show format, where politicians make vague and inarticulate points simplifying complex issues - the ultimate form of which are the US presidential debates, in which the illiterate voters of an illiterate country choose who is going to rule the world based on 1h of banter between geriatric billionaires.
The idea that complex information can be simplified is an illusion and a trap, and falling for it in a reality where the state made libraries free for everyone and you can download books from the internet is inexcusable, and the ultimate victory of evil over good.
Your inability to understand what is going on has been groomed since birth, through television and now phones. This is to keep you at your workpost until you die, and extract as much energy and value from you as possible while giving you the bare minimum. You NEED the ability to process complex chunks information not in order to change the world and make a revolution, but because you don't want to be sodomized on a daily basis by people who are more powerful than you are.
You need to be able to spend 30+ hours reading books about any political subject before being able to BEGIN forming a nuanced opinion on it. The rest is you parroting youtube videos - and it will show: not only in how you speak, but also in how you vote, in the political action you will or will not take, in the amount of change you'll be able to introduce in your life and that of your family and your community, and ultimately in how hard you are getting fucked in the ass.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 12:22:29 PM No.24572274
I hate AI very, very much
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 12:58:11 PM No.24572311
>>24565986
She's cringe and awfully pretentious. Hot as fuck though.