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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 11:54:20 PM No.24559570
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I still dont get the point of the book of job
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 1:21:50 AM No.24559732
>>24559570 (OP)
Read Chesterton
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 1:36:38 AM No.24559746
>>24559570 (OP)
https://www.dknvs.no/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/DKNVS_Skrifter1_2022_Scr.pdf
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 1:37:08 AM No.24559748
>>24559570 (OP)
Loyalty to a master. The construction of WAR, through obedience and something "beyond fear" itself.
Imagine thousands of years of human history, where millions are appointed to be killed, young people, whole generations, which will never know love, never will see their wives and children again. Sent on foot to die horribly, in perfect alignment and silent discipline.
Imagine the level of "spiritual work" needed to maintain that "tradition" through out centuries, through thousands of years.
Obedience and loyalty to a master. To a hierarchy.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 1:41:51 AM No.24559754
Read Qohelet instead
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 1:43:36 AM No.24559758
Job is set around the same time Abraham was alive, and therefore there was little in the way of knowledge about God and his motivations, since it predates Moses passing down what God told him etc.,
Which meant that how Job and his friends interpreted his suffering was that good things happen to good people, bad to bad.
It is Job's insistence on his innocence and rejection of his existence (wishing his mother's womb was shut up etc), without essentially rejecting God, that leads God to demonstrate his power and the inability mankind has to estimate his motivations.
It's essentially a rejection of an almost automated karmic balance good for good bad for bad etc., because the events that follow that time period involve God taking sides and travelling about in a box and a tent with the boys while genocides take place, etc., which doesn't really make sense (it still doesn't but whatever) if he has already set these metaphysical karmic laws.
It's importance and place in the OT probably served as a reminder that the perception of morality and punishment had changed since the early phase of the religion.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 1:59:10 AM No.24559789
jews will brag about how influential the bible is in western culture but will start screeching like harpies when you mention how influential the general middle eastern and north african culture is within jewish culture
i'm beginning to develop a strong distaste for humans and i'm unsure if i can change that
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 2:15:04 AM No.24559821
God giveth and God taketh away
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 2:39:26 AM No.24559868
>>24559570 (OP)
It’s not a christian or a jewish book. They stole it like they stole half the content of the Bible (Noah and the flood predates the hebrews on the flood tablet for instance).
It doesn’t make theological sense because it’s a vestigial remainder of traditions older than judaism. And while the entire OT has fuckall to do with some “all loving” three part deity as christians would have it this book in particular is just from a different cultural context.

If you really pay attention you can see the heebs taking their stolen stories and mashed up creation narratives (at least two separate and contradictory accounts in Genesis) from a henotheistic origin (one god among many) with a mountain/storm god ripping off Baal, to increasingly (and late, around the time of greek antiquity and inspired by their ideas) reinterpreting that as monotheism.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 3:32:59 AM No.24559975
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Job lost his whole fuckin' family, and they said God gave him a hundred cows. Like two hundred horses or something. How the fuck is that worth my kids? What I did to deserve to go through this? Let me get this right, this because of Eve? Okay, I fuck with Adam, but I'll beat the shit out of Eve.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 12:37:06 PM No.24560791
>>24559868
This. Never forget that the content of the bible was decided by a committee.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 12:39:20 PM No.24560794
>>24559570 (OP)
https://youtu.be/kEX7G6s_3Cs
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 12:54:12 PM No.24560811
>>24559570 (OP)
Jung's takes on Job's story is still the best but also the most terrifying one
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Judge Rael
7/18/2025, 1:13:53 PM No.24560838
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>>24559570 (OP)

Let me REVEAL THE PRE-EXILE HELLENISM OF THE TRANSGRESSIVE JOOS...

JOB-JOVE-JUPITER-ZEUS...

JOB loses his first family...
>Zeus loses/abandons the Macedonian Greeks

Job is restored with a bigger family and is given more after the ordeal...
>JOVE JUPITER (the Autist formerly known as Zeus) is given the ROMAN EMPIRE

They stopped being the People of the One who sent Yeshua when they succumbed to the Evil of the Enochian Book Fallen...

Donald John Jupiter Zeus Trump...
aka
PAX-ZEUS-U
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 1:24:18 PM No.24560858
>>24560811
Elaborate
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 2:36:30 PM No.24560964
>>24560858
"What does man possess that God does not have?"
God is omnipotent, pure consciousness but simulatenously 'unconscious'. God created the world to experience Itself. Job's suffering from worldly perspective is just pointless brutality. But from spiritual side, from that suffering and his faith, he gained a new knowledge, in fact he became something more divine than God himself, that's why God's answer to Job was by flexing His omnipotence, God was angry. What Job realized was that God doesn't have moral. God doesn't know Himself. Therefore God can't judge Himself. That's why He took Satan's bet in the first place. And because God doesn't have moral, He is both good and evil. In God, those two sides coexist with zero conflict. And this leads to disturbing realization that God has a dark side.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 2:45:49 PM No.24560976
>>24559570 (OP)
Job and Lot are two of the most bizarre books in the old testament. Only thing somewhat similar in the new testament is the LSD filled book revelations
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 2:50:18 PM No.24560982
>>24560811
He states though that through Job god learned empathy, why would an omniscient being need to learn anything?
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:31:58 PM No.24561143
>>24559975
Whom'st?
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:34:16 PM No.24561151
>>24559570 (OP)
Obey your master
Do as you're told

that's the point of everything in the Bible.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:35:16 PM No.24561158
>>24561143
looks like Nicki Minaj
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:35:58 PM No.24561161
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>>24560982
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:43:02 PM No.24561179
>>24560982
God isn't omniscient. He didn't even know where Adam and Eve were hiding.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:49:16 PM No.24561191
>>24560838
Fits the shape-shifting ability of these people.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 5:13:42 PM No.24561236
It's very clearly just a coping manual if your life is going through shit.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 5:17:21 PM No.24561241
>>24559570 (OP)

The point is to curse God and die.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:58:02 PM No.24561435
Faith is not the absence of suffering, but the steadfast trust in God’s wisdom and mercy, even when the reasons remain hidden.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 10:31:22 PM No.24561979
>>24561179
By this we shall know that we are of the truth and reassure our heart before him; for whenever our heart condemns us, God is greater than our heart, and he knows everything.

— 1 John 3:19-20, ESV
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 10:33:35 PM No.24561989
>>24561179
Psalm 139:1-4 - "O Lord, you have searched me and known me! You know when I sit down and when I rise up; you discern my thoughts from afar. You search out my path and my lying down and are acquainted with all my ways. Even before a word is on my tongue, behold, O Lord, you know it altogether."

I always understood it as God called them out to have them confess their sin, not because he didn't know where they were
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 10:33:43 PM No.24561990
jobber
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:04:12 AM No.24562421
>>24559570 (OP)
>I still dont get the point of the book of job
The three Pharisee argued pointlessly of God's theodicity. The young man intervenes into their argument and tells them to shut up and cope.

It is holocaust theology for beginners.