Anonymous
7/18/2025, 1:22:20 AM No.24559734
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John Donne is lit af - /lit/ (#24559734) [Archived: 178 hours ago]
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 1:56:00 AM No.24559780
>>24559734 (OP)
this one annoys me, like why WOULDN'T free will change the situation? feels pretty stupid but maybe i'm missing something.
this one annoys me, like why WOULDN'T free will change the situation? feels pretty stupid but maybe i'm missing something.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 2:18:06 AM No.24559830
>>24559734 (OP)
Poetry that dabs on YHWH is the best kind. A robust tradition.
Poetry that dabs on YHWH is the best kind. A robust tradition.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 2:27:41 AM No.24559840
>>24559734 (OP)
I think it's time that we admit Death, be not proud is ridiculous and grandstandy
I think it's time that we admit Death, be not proud is ridiculous and grandstandy
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 12:46:31 PM No.24560802
>>24559780
He's complaining that all creatures on earth sin, but only men are punished for it. He also wants to be forgotten rather than remember, like most people.
He's complaining that all creatures on earth sin, but only men are punished for it. He also wants to be forgotten rather than remember, like most people.
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Judge Rael
7/18/2025, 1:03:03 PM No.24560822
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 1:17:33 PM No.24560843
I'm more of a rochester man
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 1:21:51 PM No.24560851
>>24559734 (OP)
nice hand, i like the color
nice hand, i like the color
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:01:22 PM No.24561091
>>24559840
A bit by modern standards, but you gotta judge with its time.
A bit by modern standards, but you gotta judge with its time.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:17:19 PM No.24561113
>>24559734 (OP)
What edition is this? Haven't seen one that doesn't modernize spelling/punctuation.
What edition is this? Haven't seen one that doesn't modernize spelling/punctuation.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 10:42:21 PM No.24562020
>>24560802
yes but he outright admits that intent and reason exist as differences between him and them. he's not saying he's at the mercy of his instincts, he's saying he knew better and did it anyway but that shouldn't matter. and i don't even care morally, i'm not a christian, i just think it's a pretty lazy conceit for a poem.
yes but he outright admits that intent and reason exist as differences between him and them. he's not saying he's at the mercy of his instincts, he's saying he knew better and did it anyway but that shouldn't matter. and i don't even care morally, i'm not a christian, i just think it's a pretty lazy conceit for a poem.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 3:18:33 AM No.24562864
>>24562020
What's a high effort conceit for a poem? They tend to be simple, like "I love this woman but we died". Donne forms a passionate argument against God and then rebukes himself as he turns that same Reason back on his own angst. He's expressing the vicissitudes of passion and faith in a way that's both realistic and beautiful.
What's a high effort conceit for a poem? They tend to be simple, like "I love this woman but we died". Donne forms a passionate argument against God and then rebukes himself as he turns that same Reason back on his own angst. He's expressing the vicissitudes of passion and faith in a way that's both realistic and beautiful.
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I ignore women
7/19/2025, 3:33:40 AM No.24562913
>>24559734 (OP)
Yeah, he is one of my favorite poets but I do find him too sentimental at times. His poems would be good to send to a bitch
Yeah, he is one of my favorite poets but I do find him too sentimental at times. His poems would be good to send to a bitch
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 12:50:44 PM No.24563913
>>24562864
This
This
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 3:32:04 PM No.24564227
>wahhhhhhg my sins my tears have mercy on this lowly worm lord
fag
fag
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 3:39:53 PM No.24564240
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 3:43:37 PM No.24564253
>>24559734 (OP)
Yes, of the all-time Greats of English poetry. I've been meaning to memorize his wonderful The Ecstasy for a while. Love that poem, among others.
Yes, of the all-time Greats of English poetry. I've been meaning to memorize his wonderful The Ecstasy for a while. Love that poem, among others.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 4:15:14 PM No.24564308
>>24564227
The writer is not asking for mercy, he's asking to be forgotten entirely instead of remembered, like most people. That's what makes this sonnet so unusual for its time, because a typical prayer asks God not to forget them and to not leave them or forsake them. Donne is not asking any of that.
The writer is not asking for mercy, he's asking to be forgotten entirely instead of remembered, like most people. That's what makes this sonnet so unusual for its time, because a typical prayer asks God not to forget them and to not leave them or forsake them. Donne is not asking any of that.