"Have you ever learned a new language just so you can enjoy a book better in its original version?"

>>24559917 (OP)
Ja

>>24559918
Riga is in Latvia? Latvia was German?

>>24559922
nein

>>24559922
>>24559927
Riga was Teutonic, just play EU4 and open the Culture Map

>tfw keep meaning to learn French
>have the perfect instruction guide for it, highly recommended
>keep putting it off

I am just going to have to sacrifice some of my reading schedule to learning this language. If I don't make a routine of it, it won't get done, but I already have a routine for reading and writing throughout the week. I'll basically need to transform my reading routine into a language-learning routine, that's the only way I'll actually knuckle down and do it.

Yeah. I've learned French and Spanish. Currently on Portuguese to read Pessoa.

no, that's pretentious

>>24560428
What did you read in French and Spanish?
And was it worth it or should these languages just be deleted?

>>24560472
Too much stuff to list. From Spanish I've most enjoyed Cervantes, Llosa, Bécquer. From French, Dumas and Sade.

>>24560457
I don't think you know what that word means.

>>24560425
Post the guide.

>>24560507
I'm sorry that taking a 6 month course on french will not help you understand why some 19th century aristocrat wanted to fuck and kill children. Your intelligence is seriously wanting if you have to take a language course for that.

>>24560518
What the fuck are you talking about

>>24560425
I am too lazy to structure my thoughts here but
1. it's best to as quickly as possible reach the level where there is some activity that you can do in your target language even when you're tired and stressed, before you reach that level inputting will be very tiresome and that's the riskiest time in terms of quitting. That's why I recommend dedicating at least 1 hour a day to French
2. reaching the level where you can comfortably read some authors in French doesn't take that long, it can be as short as 6 months if you're really dedicated. After that you'll just continue to read and improve, eventually being able to comfortably read more difficult authors, even authors who made you feel like you didn't know French at all when you last tried to read them.
3. please just stick to French, don't get distracted with other languages
4. Yes you should start studying today

>>24560535
Also use yomitan and anki
You can make anki cards extremely easily using ankiconnect
I also recommend using the French IPA dictionary with yomitan so that every card you make through yomitan has an IPA transcription automatically on it, the default French to English yomitan dictionary also allows you to have pronunciation clips effortlessly included on your cards
One thing I neglected early on with French was listening and it really harmed me, having the IPA and audio pronunciation of each word you study with anki is very helpful
God I love France

>>24559917 (OP)
Yeah, two languages, but then I never read the books that motivated me to learn them in the first place...

Its more fun than reading actually, Im a paranoid schizophrenic with no ego boundaries and I get ideas of reference from dictionaries which makes the words extremely poignant in my thoughts, also im familiar with advanced memorization techniques like mnemonics which relies on the same principle so all of that totaled with other natural abilities I learn languages extremely quickly, I can learn the language some books are written in faster than I can read it

>>24560428
>Currently on Portuguese to read Pessoa.
same but for de sá-carneiro as well

>>24559922
Riga was majority German until after WW1 yes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_European_Framework_of_Reference_for_Languages#Common_reference_levels

This is kind of the normal way to learn a useful speaking language
A1
>hello I am dumbass I am American
A2
>could I buy this coffee please?
B1
>yes I mop the floor
B2
>please I do not have any money do not hurt me
C1
>what do you people even dream about
C2
>none of you even have the brainpower to understand native C2

>>24559917 (OP)
Thinking of learning Spainish so I can live abroad for a few years and work in Latin America. I will also want to read Bolano and Cevantes in Spainish. I am also thinking once I have a good grasp on Spainish I will work backwards to learn Latin so I can read some classics as they were written.

>>24561054
Latin has verb systems like Spanish and the similarities basically end there though some words are vaguely recognizable
>learned some Spanish in school years ago, learned Latin more recently

>>24561054
I learned Latin first (6 years through HS). The literature is great and romance languages are easy mode after that (learned Spanish and Portuguese, can read historical plaques in French). There’s a bunch of memorization that barbarians essentially did away with (noun declensions, fewer verb conjugations).
Going from Spanish to Latin seems like it would be harder.
But honestly, unless you are reading poetry (Pessoa’s different pessoas are nice in Portuguese), I think in most cases translations won’t kill you. I did see the Bayeaux tapestry last year and could read it instead of wearing a headset like a rube, which is satisfying. But I’m reading Tertullian and Augustine in translation these days and really don’t care.

>>24559917 (OP)
Yes, German and English. Native Romanian speaker, i read most translations from latin languages in Romanian and mostly everything else in English or German.

>>24559917 (OP)
Yeah. Did this with French and at the moment with Latin.
>>24560965
>hallo, ich bin ein dummer Amerikaner
>bitte, dürfte ich das Kaffee kaufen?
Shit, I have to restart my German studies

>>24561069
>>24561094
Damn, I've been told Spainish was quite a good gateway into learning Latin.
>I think in most cases translations won’t kill you
I'm not against translations I'd just like to increase my linguistic capabilities as I'm a monospeaker and never paid attention to learning other languages in school.

>>24561131
I mean, know how you learn and do that. Latin is a heavier lift with a lot of memorization drills. I guess one advantage to Spanish is that you can learn it as a spoken language—it was easy for me to read/write it but it took me a while to develop my ear.
Yes, definitely learn ANY second language. It makes you see how much language frames your reality.

>>24560718
Why not Anon? What happened?
There's never too late

>>24561163
>It makes you see how much language frames your reality.
How I wish I could explain this to people who only know one language, let alone different languages from different language families.