I've started reading Pushkin. What does /lit/ think about him?

>>24562238 (OP)
Pooshka means cannon (gun) in Russian so the fact he was killed in a duel is extremely /lit/

>>24562238 (OP)
As someone who was forced to sit through a few years of Pushkin in high school and recite a good bit of him from memory, I think he's pretty overrated as far as the literary output goes. This kind of Russian language was probably revolutionary in the 19th century, but right now it is incredibly outdated, and not in any kind of uplifting way. In the modern day, his reputation is kind of propped up by the fact that Soviet education was looking for some kind of tzarist-era classic to glorify, and, for whichever reason, chose to focus on him.

>>24562270
>tfw you'll never be a mildly above average author that has a context or says exactly what the party likes so they prop you up as a giant of literature which sticks for the rest of human history.
I'm not saying this about Pushkin specifically, I'm saying this isn't the first nor the second accusation of this kind I've heard.

>>24562238 (OP)
From my amateur perspective, him, Gogol, and Lermontov unleashed formidable and dormant forces in Russian literature and arts that continues more or less to this day. Before him, probably not even Russians of his time would have thought that in that same century they would be matching and even surpassing the rest of Europe in terms of art, music, and literature, because by then they had produced no truly world class artists yet, or at least those recognized by the rest of the world. Tell any Frenchman in 1800 that in modern times 19th Russian authors would be considered the equal if not the greater of any French writer of the 1800s and they would be absolutely astounded. In a way though it was they can still claim credit, as direct connections can be drawn from Chateaubriand to Lord Byron to Pushkin who was able to capture the “mood” of the times so effectively and so jump-start modern Russian lit

>>24562270
Damn I didn't believe you but I asked ChatGPT and apparently it's true
The soviet bastards!

>>24563493
Yeah, it's crazy that Russia practically had to secular high culture before the 19th century. Going from those early Russian poets to Tolstoy and Dostoevsky in literature, or from Glinka to Scriabin and Stravinsky in less than a century is an incredible feat.

>>24563670
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>>24562270
>As someone who was forced to sit through a few years of Pushkin in high school and recite a good bit of him from memory, I think he's pretty overrated as far as the literary output goes
The fact that you encountered him in a forced high school setting suggests your judgment is based on a limited or skewed exposure, not a serious engagement.
>right now it is incredibly outdated
Sounds highly subjective. Treating literary "datedness" as inherently negative is simplistic. Pushkin's best works still hold significant aesthetic, historical and narrative value.
>In the modern day, his reputation is kind of propped up by the fact that Soviet education
Pushkin's reputation long precedes the Soviet Union and was already immense in the 19th century.

>>24563679
> The fact that you encountered him in a forced high school setting suggests your judgment is based on a limited or skewed exposure, not a serious engagement.
Yes. For what it's worth I was also forced to read Turgenev and Saltykov-Schedrin and I still love them.
> Sounds highly subjective. Treating literary "datedness" as inherently negative is simplistic. Pushkin's best works still hold significant aesthetic, historical and narrative value.
We're talking about literature here, "highly subjective" is not serious criticism. Everything in this thread is.
> Pushkin's reputation long precedes the Soviet Union and was already immense in the 19th century.
Derzhavin's reputation was also huge, but for obvious reasons nobody gave a fuck in the USSR and he was a little more than a footnote compared to Pushkin by the time I went to school.

>>24562238 (OP)
Real nigga. Whypipo worship his rap lyrics and he had a nigga moment for a shawty.