Prometheus Bound is the play which nearly got Aeschylus killed for revealing Eleusian secrets and it has a heavily Monist slant if read properly. Prometheus wasn’t tortured for giving man fire but for revealing the metaphysical secrets of the One.

The chorus at one point refers to men before Prometheus as having “ears that hear not and eyes that see not” - a phrase which literally appears in Parmenides’ poem to describe men who rely on sense faculties to make heads and tails of the world. The ancient men of the play were rooted in materialism with their un-hearing ears and un-seeing eyes but Prometheus divulges the fire of Being to them which brings Gnosis. The senses no longer are to be relied on for perceiving the world and metaphysical truth is understood. This is the true meaning of the play and it is why Aeschylus is secretly the most esoteric of the playwrights and the master whereas Euripides and Sophocles peddled in soap dramas.

>>24562658 (OP)
Nice.

>>24562658 (OP)
you're correct that aeschylus was an esoteric writer, that's obvious enough from the oresteia. i don't know why you felt the need to insert a retarded nonsense opinion about other writers, i can only assume some sort of brain damage is to blame.

What are the esoteric parts of the oresteia? I just read it but didn't 'get' it either I guess

Promotheseus Bound renders Milton obsolete. Imagine writing a poem lamenting man's fall from eternal childhood when Aeschylus already wrote a parallel myth demonstrating the responsibility of conscience. The Greeks do it better every time.

>>24563159
I think thats a bit unfair to say, for one we dont have the complete trilogy of prometheus to judge. and milton was clearly inspired by it to some degree

>>24562967
it's about the metaphysical masculine vs feminine.

>>24562658 (OP)
It also directly says that some day Zeus will not be the king of the gods anymore.

Is this even written by Aeschylus? It’s noticeably inferior on a dramatic level to his other work. Very static, lacks any real dynamism.

>>24562658 (OP)
The Eleusian "Mysteries" was just a typical male initiation "ritual" with whores ("priestesses"). It happens till this very day, in certain circles and cultures, fathers make their sons to get "initiated" at legal age taking them to the "temples" (whorehouses), where they themselves were initiated by their fathers before.
The "ceremonies" could be highly sophisticated like in the gilded age, up to the late 1920's. Then, the modern era of sex as a mainstream global business, unveiled the "mystery".
The highest forms of those "ceremonies-rituals" included a representation of death. Life and death, and sex as the pivotal point of that eternal process of creation. Death and Rebirth. The "spirit of creation" is the ultimate mystery, the "blow of life", the "impulse" to create life, without that "magic" element "hidden" in ourselves, there would not be life. Only darkness, without time, without purpose, without meaning, only dead mater.
This >>24563454

>>24562658 (OP)
>At lunch a recollection of Aeschylus’s chorus (the female hare and the eagle) causes him to remark on the nobility of this outlook, and he feels it was things like this that might have led to accusations of blasphemy against Aeschylus, this connection between holiness and Nature was probably at the bottom of the Eleusinian mysteries. In our times, R. continues, religion should seek to influence ethics, and allow faith to be represented by art, which can transform illusion into truth.

>Herr v. Stein reads to us the translation he has made of Aeschylus’s chorus, and it seems to us very good. “That is religion,” R. exclaims.

>In the morning we talked at length about religion and art. R. describes how art works in metaphors and allegories as such but at the same time conveys to the emotions the truth behind the dogmas. Aeschylus’s Oresteia, he says, is undoubtedly more profound than all the Eleusinian mysteries.

>>24563676
>Very static, lacks any real dynamism.
Because it was just introducing a trilogy.

>>24562658 (OP)
Was Prometheus a Buddha?

>>24563795
Buddha is the opposite to Prometheus, Buddha "teaches" about the need to get rid of knowledge wich is the root of all desire, and "free" humanity from the struggle of "living" and "consciousness".

The most cuc-ked "religion" of human history, a coping mechanism thought out by a society and culture trying to escape a reality of pain and hopelessness. They are ugly, nobody, wants them, reality sucks, they are trapped in a material reality they hate, so they came with a mental construction that leads to self "starvation/purification", a philosophical excuse to delete themselves out of this world in wich they can't live being aware of what their are. They don't want to feel anymore, to eat anymore, to breathe anymore, they want to "transcend"... lol

On the other hand, a human creature proud of itself, in love with itself, who looks back at its own reflection with love and desire, and dreams with beauty, that creature wants to live, to thrive, to overpower death, to enjoy desire, because that creature is in harmony with beauty. It has the nature of Prometheus inside, it is a creature in search of life and light, instead of death and darkness.

>>24564639
>who looks back at its own reflection with love and desire
you realize narcissus is a cautionary tale in greek myth, not an example to follow right?

>>24564678
I didn't specified a gender because I was talking about an "species" in love with itself. I'm referring to the concept of love and desire between a man and a woman. The sense of lust and sex engendering beauty in the western world since millennia.

About the Narcissus myth, could it be a cautionary tale about the path to extinction and self-destruct of a "man in love with a man". If you know what I mean.

>>24562658 (OP)
I there any other ancient text that could be that too?

>>24564639
dumb ass

>>24562884
It’s from Raphael’s Parmenides translation I read. The phrase “ears which do not see and ears that do not hear” are used both in Parmenides’ poem and in Aeschylus’ signifying the faultiness in relying on sense faculties and the gnosis achieved from realizing the One- this is likely what got Aeschylus in trouble.

This is all relegated to a brief footnote in the Peri Thuseos book which I have but I have been mulling it over and that makes Aeschylus such an esoteric writer if that is Prometheus Bound’s hidden meaning.

>>24562884
Parmenides description of Doxa
>But you from this way of inquiry restrain your understanding,/ and do not let habit born of much experience force you along this way,/ to employ aimless sight and echoing hearing/ and tongue. But judge by reason the strife-filled critique/ I have delivered” (fr. 7).

Aeschylus on men before Prometheus introduced reason
>H]umans in the beginning had eyes but saw / to no purpose; they had ears but did not hear” (447-48). But fire provided humanity with the light they needed to see.

Fire = reason

Not literal fire but reason.

>>24562658 (OP)
Easily my favorite play. There are multiple interpretations and for being such a simple play it’s got a ton of depth. A masterpiece of the first order

>>24566050
But the introduction of fire in Prometheus Bound is tied up with the introduction of the arts. What would entitle us to say that those other passages are exoteric and this one esoteric?

>>24566233
It isn’t really explained in the book I have. It is a minor foot note and my interpretation of these excerpts playing off of one another is original research.

>>24565894
Why? Because I exposed the truth? lol, Your sick rituals are not "espeshial"

>>24563159
>>24563228
what do you guys think of Percy Shelley's Prometheus Unbound?