About reading the news - /lit/ (#24563772)

Anonymous
7/19/2025, 10:55:13 AM No.24563772
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How do you read "the news"? My ususal cycle is skimming the most important news sites, falling down some rabbit hole, opening 4chan, start doom-scrolling et cetera.
This is obviously not a very /lit/ lifestyle. How to make it better?
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 10:56:53 AM No.24563776
>>24563772 (OP)
I would suggest not reading them at all.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 10:57:45 AM No.24563778
>>24563772 (OP)
Take the boomerpill and read the newspaper.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 11:49:23 AM No.24563840
>>24563772 (OP)
A combo of traditional news, YouTube and /pol/.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 3:10:33 PM No.24564167
I don't care anymore. When I did, I used to use spidr.today and /pol/ (which wasnt so much of a shithole back then)
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 3:28:22 PM No.24564219
What do you want to get out of news? For actual information (whatever utility you'd find in that) I suggest a mix of german and - as cringe as it is - japanese national news tv and articles. All commercial news nowadays are completely useless.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 4:04:59 PM No.24564294
>>24564219
Why German national news TV? Most popular here (Germany) is the public service broadcasting (ÖRR) that pretty obviously isn't any less biased than any other random news outlet.

>>24563772 (OP)
There aren't really any neutral news outlet so you probably have to pick a few that have close to the same political opinion as you. I found some smaller ones that write on a more philosophy based level and don't just spout random "fact" nonsense. There is a newspaper that is published about every 2 months with like 80 pages. Because of this they don't just discuss events but actually the ideas behind them. And they often have some pretty neat chapter about a few writers and philosophers (f.e. Spengler, Mishima, Jünger).

So try reading "news" according to Socrates:
“Strong minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, weak minds discuss people.”
I don't know if he actually said that or somebody just posted something like this on Pinterest once and everybody just believed from there on.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 4:06:39 PM No.24564296
i read the wsj on weekdays that's it the rest of news is ass
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 4:06:57 PM No.24564297
>>24563772 (OP)
Don't. It's all hype. Nothing ever happens.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 4:15:01 PM No.24564307
>>24564294
>There is a newspaper that is published about every 2 months with like 80 pages
Name?
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 4:16:24 PM No.24564309
>>24564294
>There is a newspaper that is published about every 2 months with like 80 pages.
that's called a magazine dumb fuck
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 4:20:21 PM No.24564320
Read only local news. Theyre usually mildly boring but can sometimes be beneficial. Major news is just biased headline bait, only useful if you want to participate in shit flinging with other /pol/tards. I stopped engaging with world news and feel much better for it.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 4:41:45 PM No.24564371
>>24564294
Our national TV is biased but less annoying than any commercial news. You obviously have to think critically. There are no good news sources for a schizo antisemetic, anti-woke, 4-chan worldview where the ethnically pure anchors use slurs in every sentence. If someone wants to be less /lit/ these are very normie and I'd say these news sources prevent the cycle because of the calm language and - outside of certain topics, depending on what you think - factual reporting.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 11:02:40 PM No.24565493
Thanks for all the input so far. I guess it's going to look like this:
>WLAN block on news sites
>Der SPIEGEL abo (weekly fix)
>radio with BR24, or Deutschlandfunk or something like that (daily fix)
>perhaps local newspaper, probably weekly abonnement
>weekend edition newspaper from local kiosk if I feel like it, probably FAZ/Süddeutsche am Sonntag
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 11:15:58 PM No.24565536
>>24563772 (OP)
I read Policy Sphere; it's a recap of policy news from a more broadly conservative viewpoint. I like it because most of it is about real stuff rather than just political theater. There are probably other blogs or sites with a similar focus. So I would say basically figure out what kind of news interests you or that you want to know about, and try to find some site or magazine that engages with it on a somewhat deep level rather than just reading "the news."
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 11:25:35 PM No.24565571
Legitimately why is it important to be aware of current global events?
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 11:41:48 PM No.24565626
>>24565493
If you are German you can maybe try something like Sezession. And if you really are German you probably know some names that publish there (Kubitschek, Sellner, etc). They are part of the New Right and sometimes have some solid articles that combine literature and current politics. They f.e. had a interview with Costin Alamariu (Bronze Age Pervert) last year and know a lot about literature in general (they publish books too).

And if you are not German you might try Arktos Journel. I found them by accident a few days ago and I don't know wtf that is. They publish books from guys like Jorjani, Evola, Dugin etc and thus they write articles there too. Seems like a "fascist" pro white news stuff. But they can be interesting/funny sometimes.


And if anyone has comparable recommendation regarding such stuff but from a more left-wing perspective please let me know.
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 10:20:20 AM No.24566726
>>24565626
Ah thanks neue-rechte-kun, but I've had enough of rabbitholes for a while, I just want to touch grass for a while, want to be a normie once in a while.
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 8:41:19 PM No.24567696
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>>24564371
Public broadcasters around the world are more responsible than their commercial equivalents because there are different incentives. Here in the U.S. there's PBS, and like public broadcasters elsewhere, they reflect an establishment outlook, but they don't appear to be high on crack. (Of course they're getting their funding cut.)

>>24563772 (OP)
I have a bookmark folder with different sites. For "scanning the headlines" then I'll usually go to Google News, BizToc and Drudge Report (this is slop). And I follow a local news station's channel on YouTube. Also I listen to Radio War Nerd which sums up armed conflicts. That's about it.

I'll become interested in a particular story and follow that sometimes. And there will be stories that get a lot of attention in the news which I don't care about, and I'll ignore it. Or I'll read a specific journalist or some other guy. I've been following the Telegram channel of Alexander Nevzorov who is this hacky Russian exploitation "journalist" (made war documentaries in the 90s) who fled the country after predicting the war would be a disaster and posts about insane crap that happens there. I don't like political influencers in general though. Sometimes I'll check in on them to get the vibe of how X/Y/Z political faction is reacting to something. Most alt-media is like going to a chiropractor. There's a lot of flim-flam.

>>24564320
Or just read history books. Or listen to podcasts with historians.

A lot of people don't really know how "the news" works. Or how to read a news article. There's a basic structure or format to them. It's essentially hierarchical and ranks (what the paper thinks) is important in order of importance. There's a lede, then a nut graf, then there are details. But an editorial line or propaganda line is often in what's emphasized, and what's deemphasized or left out. A narrative throughline. George Orwell's essays are a good education in how propaganda works.

Also, when looking at papers and magazines, who are they? Whose interests do they represent? What kind of outlook on the world do they share? Things of the nature. Just because it reflects a different outlook from one's own doesn't make it worthless, but you can account for the inevitable bias that creeps in.
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 1:02:52 AM No.24568320
>>24563772 (OP)
i have a rss feed that i made during corona with news feeds from all over the world but i never use it,for my daily news i let people around me tell me in the cafe.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 4:17:29 PM No.24569888
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>>24563772 (OP)
big up symbionese liberation army
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 4:33:49 PM No.24569942
>>24563772 (OP)
I make sure to get a general outline of the news from mainstream sources, but i do not believe certain aspects of it. Going into leftist spaces helps debunk much of the bullshit said
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 4:46:29 PM No.24569970
>how do you read propaganda
Don’t. Unless you’re a hermit you’ll still get some through osmosis unfortunately
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 4:52:07 PM No.24569978
>>24563772 (OP)
desu I would like to read the news, but every time I tune in to a (allegedly mature and grounded) radio channel or check the newspaper I just get so disgusted by how absurdly propgandistic it is that I retreat further back under my rock than I was before. I listen for 30 seconds and already I have to entertain a narrative that putlers genocidal superwar is conducted for the specific purpose of stealing ukrainian babies to shore up ruzzia's failing birthrates (caused by their hellish and dystopian living conditions, of course, as opposed to our own crisis caused by a noble, enlightened positive nihilism). I check the papers and already I've absorbed half a dozen economic narratives pinning various national woes on the people's psychological failing, showing that we need to cut taxes, relax regulations and be more grateful for immigration. (these aren't made up examples btw, this was my exact experience trying to catch up after shutting myself out for a while)

yeah, I could try to adopt a position as an impartial observer and carefully dissect all these stories to try to glean some truths about what's actually happening and why, but man, that'd take up the better part of my day and probably make me severely depressed. I'm not going to spend hours exposing myself to whatever filth they force on me for that. and well, I'm not immune to propaganda, either. even if I explicitly disagree with every point they make or imply I'd probably be changed for the worse by it all.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 4:53:17 PM No.24569982
I listen to them on the radio while reading
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 5:55:16 PM No.24570102
>>24563772 (OP)
Learn about media literacy, principles of journalism and read Manufacturing Consent

Then read papers that have some credibility and dedication to objectivity (barely) with an extremely critical eye, ie. Reuters, Financial Times, Al Jazeera, whatever local paper fits the category, and understand they are all bought and sold by whoever funds them

Follow independent investigative journalists from events that interest you, keeping in mind their biases (some biases are okay)

It's pretty hard to find opinion writers that are even worth reading today, they're all boring rich normies if stick to mainstream sources, New Yorker used to be decent for that prior to corporatization, but now it's just millennial libtard slop for coastal elites

This is of course all pointless if you're a lizard brained little tradfag chud who thinks /pol/ is a source of anything valuable and respects outlets like Breitbart and PragerU unaware they're being herded by zionists
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 11:57:01 PM No.24571059
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>>24570102
>Financial Times
You mean the Pink Guardian?
LOL. LMAO even.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 12:00:49 AM No.24571071
>>24563776
This. All news is propaganda.
Just unplug and mind your own business. You'll be happier for it.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 2:45:23 AM No.24571449
>>24571059
How can you manage to own me so hard without actually reading my post?
Truly impressive posting, Anon
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 3:07:51 AM No.24571497
>>24563772 (OP)
>>24563772 (OP)
I use GroundNews (the free version). Anyone in their right-mind is going to use a News-Aggregator of some kind, because no individual source may be regarded as consistently trustworthy. There are a shitload of other aggregators, whether that be Google News, Yahoo News, or any of a number of manual RSS Article Feed compilers (Feedly is the obvious example), but I honestly think that GroundNews is the best, purely because its layout does a much better job of compiling all the stories reporting on the same event into a single place, and listing them alongside each other, rather than forcing you to encounter a dozen different articles with the same headline in a weird order. The much-vaunted feature of "It ranks every source both by how reputable it is, and by how right/left-wing it is" is a nice bonus, but if that was the main thing the site did for me, I would consider it utterly pointless, as I could establish the same thing with any other aggregator, and a spreadsheet. The fact that simply as an aggregator in-and-of-itself it works best for me is why I use it.

As for tips beyond that: It depends on what country you're in, but one thing I can't recommend enough is making sure to keep track of local news, as well as regional, national, etc. For instance, I live in Glasgow Scotland, so I keep track of news in Glasgow, in Scotland, in the UK, and in the world as a whole. If you live in a particular city/county, and GroundNews does a shite job of keeping track of news for it, then for the love of God, find out what the local news sources are (there's usually at least one paper, and sometimes a radio station), and make sure to manually check them.

Some other shit I would recommend:
1. This one won't apply to you if you live outside the UK, but I listen to the BBC's 'Today in Parliament' podcast. I don't usually like the BBC, but I know a useful resource, when I see one.
2. Watch TLDR News on Youtube. They do a weirdly good job of explaining stuff, in a way which the MSM used to be capable of 20 years ago, where they just tell you what happened, list the possible outcomes, provide an explanation of what each one means, and how likely it is, and then stop talking. These days mainstream news shows just start with the assumption you already know that shit, and bring out a panel of know-nothing pseudo-experts to argue about which of those outcomes is most likely, without explaining what any of them mean. It's fucking asinine.
3. For global news, watch the televised broadcasts of AT LEAST one reputable international news broadcaster, such as DW, or Al-Jazeera. None of those sources are remotely unbiased, and they will all occasionally lie to you, but they sometimes do a better job of illustrating the situation than either a youtuber, or a print article can.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 12:13:54 PM No.24572266
>>24563772 (OP)
>How to make it better?
stop reading the news. it's garbage
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 8:53:32 PM No.24573513
>>24571497
>>24567696
Thank you two especially, and also all the other posters.
>>24569982
That's kind of complicated, isn't it?
>>24570102
>lizard brained
yes
>lizard brained little tradfag chud
no
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 9:25:31 PM No.24573660
>>24573513
>>24573513
>That's kind of complicated, isn't it?
Nah it's just background noise. If something significant happens I'll automatically listen up.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 9:28:55 PM No.24573675
I use ground news for all the reasons >>24571497 does.

Beyond that I am a subscriber to Foreign Affairs, although you probably wont like the publication unless you have a background/special interest in IR.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 8:51:51 AM No.24575082
I just watch news analysis from knowledgeable experts in my native tongue
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 9:37:11 AM No.24575139
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>>24563772 (OP)
every morning:
>check Fox for the drooling MAGAchud lives in a cornfield take
>MSNBC for the wilting dickless noncommittal sort of left i think my NB gf pegs me take
>check CNN for the questionably-sapient centrist-except-when-it-conerns-cheto-hitler dramafag take
>check the Jacobin for the autistic never gets invited to parties hoodie clad commie take
>Check haaretz for the heeb take
>chek jazeera-english for the contradictory nonsensical muslim feminist take
>check bloomberg for the disinterested above it all richfag take
>check newsnow.co.uk and troll the headlines for a bit of actual news


The actual content of articles is unimportant.
What you want to pay attention to is what headlines they're running, as this will give you some insight into where their attention is at the moment.
Secondly, also important is what spin is being put on each particular event, as this will give you some insight into the positions the various interest groups are taking.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 10:37:38 PM No.24576698
>>24563772 (OP)
Read local newspapers and areas of any importance to you.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 3:26:14 AM No.24577402
>>24565571
To feel guilty of course
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 5:09:43 PM No.24578600
I like to go between cnn and fox news. The contrast between the narratives is funny.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 7:16:09 PM No.24578792
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>>24575139
So the idea is to never read any articles, only headlines, therefore never come to any factual conclusions for any event through corroborating evidence, feeling intellectually superior and wise while never actually genuinely engaging in the subject matter, simply because it's all just a part of everyone's biased narrative, being completely impartial and unbiased yourself, through no evidence but your own

Out-fucking-standing, my good man
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 7:58:49 PM No.24578889
>>24578792
The idea is to understand where the attention is and what is being pushed by whom. If you want to learn about a particular subject, you read a book or a journal.

Consuming editorialized schlock intended to influence the masses does not make a person well informed. In fact it actively makes them emotional and stupid. Newspapers have, since first printing, transparently been used for the purpose of advocating an interested party to idiots. Journals and books are about selling knowledge for a reasonable sum.

If it’s your wish to visit McDonald’s or Wendy’s and pick through your meal, pulling everything off the food except for the lettuce and tomatoes, that is your business. But that is time consuming and you’re likely going to end up talking yourself into some fries.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 9:33:53 PM No.24579070
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>>24570102
>It's pretty hard to find opinion writers that are even worth reading today, they're all boring rich normies
I'll see these opinion writers who I've never heard of and they seem like rich girls whose dads own hedge funds.

>>24573675
>Beyond that I am a subscriber to Foreign Affairs, although you probably wont like the publication unless you have a background/special interest in IR.
I'll look at that sometimes when I want to read about what's going on with the Sudanese Civil War or something. It's like reading a think tank.

>>24575139
>Check haaretz for the heeb take
I do Times of Israel.

>>24575139
>The actual content of articles is unimportant.
I have a similar approach yeah, but I'd say there can be some context that gets lost in the headlines and gets shoved halfway down the article. I've written for papers and magazines (not about politics), and editors want a very tight, punchy lede and a graf close to that explaining what's new and why is it important. I usually found that to be the hardest part and it was the rest of the story that wrote itself. The lower down the article you go, the more you run into the writer's background filler to meet 650 or 1200 words or whatever the editor wanted.

There are different types of stories too. There's a certain cycle to the news, and there are stories like "trend pieces" which is not about anything new. Like all these stories about "young men are turning to the right." That's a trend piece.
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 2:13:29 PM No.24580919
>>24573675
Foreign Affairs has gone down hill year after year to the point it’s basically just another rag now.

Like everything else it was ruined by popularity/normie influx. Used to be intrel autists writing about whatever topic interested them, improving rural medicine in Central Asia, Indian Malaysian trade, Sino-Argentine military parallels, whatever.

Now it’s just faggots and moralfaggots crying about Xi and Trump and Putin like everything else. Editorialized nonsense. There’s absolutely no reason to pay for something you can get anywhere for free (except for their archives).