Iliad - /lit/ (#24563941) [Archived: 140 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:09:03 PM No.24563941
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>He read the Iliad
>Read
You know someone is supposed to perform it to you right? It’s ORAL TRADITION.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:10:58 PM No.24563943
>>24563941 (OP)
The translations are not oral tradition.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:12:22 PM No.24563946
>>24563941 (OP)
Except no one or at least almost no one has any idea how they're meant to be performed. I would rather read Shakespeare than see a shitty performance fail to do it justice.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:12:25 PM No.24563947
>>24563941 (OP)
No, Homer wrote it down for a reason. Before him it was oral.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:12:58 PM No.24563948
>>24563943
>He doesn’t have Greek slaves who recite the Iliad to him
You know the original Greek is intact?
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:13:59 PM No.24563949
>>24563947
Homer didn’t write it down… it was a king who ordered it to be written down but Homer wasn’t around for that. You must be new to literature
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:16:32 PM No.24563951
>>24563946
It’s about study and interpretation
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:18:28 PM No.24563957
>>24563941 (OP)
Um akschually trojan horse isn't even in iliad
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:21:48 PM No.24563961
>>24563957
Do you think the flashback in the Odyssey is related to the Iliad?
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:22:58 PM No.24563964
>>24563961
>Odyssey
written by a women
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:23:51 PM No.24563965
>>24563964
How does an oral tradition tale told through the centuries have a single author?
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:36:01 PM No.24563982
>>24563951
it’s meant to be entertainment
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:37:12 PM No.24563984
>>24563982
>Citation needed
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:37:43 PM No.24563985
>>24563965
TE Lawrence in his Odyssey translation stated 'however scholars may question the text in detail, writers (and even would-be writers) cannot but see in the Odyssey a single, authentic, unedited work of art, integrally preserved.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:39:48 PM No.24563990
>>24563984
bards earned their livelihood by providing good popular entertainment for festivals like the All-Ionian at Mount Mycale in Lydia and the All-Athenian at Athens
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:40:09 PM No.24563991
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>>24563949
Wrong.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:41:55 PM No.24563995
>>24563991
Homer was blind
How could he write?
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:42:57 PM No.24563997
>>24563990
What was entertaining then isn’t entertaining now.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:46:54 PM No.24563999
>>24563997
Shakespeare and Cervantes still entertain modern audiences. why should Homer be different?
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:47:45 PM No.24564000
>>24563999
But you said
>I would rather read Shakespeare than see a shitty performance fail to do it justice.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:50:01 PM No.24564003
>>24564000
? that was someone else
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:51:17 PM No.24564006
>>24564003
Why are you arguing with me then?
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:52:02 PM No.24564009
>>24564000
>>24564003
also that not that same as 'it's about study,' isit? Shakespeare might not be surprised to know that his plays are still bringing money to producers throughout the world. he'd be greatly surprised, however, to know that they are studied (by compulsion) in the classroom; they're conned by scholars, dissected by pedants, and fed in synthetic and quite distasteful doses to students.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:52:27 PM No.24564011
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I read it in Greek overlapping the hexameter with viking metal in the background and you can't stop me
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:53:03 PM No.24564012
>>24564006
because you said this >>24563951
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:54:03 PM No.24564017
>>24564009
You’ve spammed this bullshit for ages. Give it a rest.
>>24564012
I meant that you can understand the intent by study and interpretation
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:59:20 PM No.24564024
>>24564017
its a quote
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 2:00:27 PM No.24564025
>>24564024
Who cares? It’s boring to read it every time someone talks about Shakespeare.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 2:01:49 PM No.24564030
>>24564009
Did people not study ancient Greek plays in Shakespeare's time?
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 2:04:14 PM No.24564034
>>24564030
bit like imagining studying the sopranos in a few hundred years
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 2:23:30 PM No.24564065
It was oral in my mind
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 10:14:03 PM No.24565379
>>24563943
That's right, translations are anal tradition, because they are its products. Every translation is a blasphemy to the original work. That's why we all should learn ancient Greek like in the days of yore.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 10:28:12 PM No.24565407
>>24563941 (OP)
>It’s ORAL TRADITION.
yeah, in a society that no longer exists

>>24563947
Various monks did the same thing with Germanic stuff, which we're very grateful for.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 10:30:32 PM No.24565412
>>24563941 (OP)
Who reads anymore I’m a straight white man I don’t exist if I’m reading
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 10:30:33 PM No.24565413
>>24564034
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