>At first the audience did not do much and was extremely passive. However, as the realization began to set in that there was no limit to their actions, the piece became brutal. By the end of the performance, her body was stripped, attacked, and devalued into an image that Abramović described as the "Madonna, mother, and whore." As Abramović described it later: "What I learned was that ... if you leave it up to the audience, they can kill you. ... I felt really violated: they cut up my clothes, stuck rose thorns in my stomach, one person aimed the gun at my head, and another took it away. It created an aggressive atmosphere. After exactly 6 hours, as planned, I stood up and started walking toward the audience. Everyone ran away, to escape an actual confrontation."
What is the limit of art? What does performance art do that literature cannot?

Obe su glupe kurve

>>24567411 (OP)
Man I would love to stick rose thorns in her stomach

i want to suck her toes

and retards in this board think humans have souls when we are just dumb monkeys with a little imagination who only behave when we think someone in the sky is watching, i read that performance and was convinced that humans just pretend all throughout their lives, we are always one crisis away from becoming unhinged

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGwb3rb3yC0
Even if you think about pacing, or silence and sound design, before you get to accident or disruption, there's a reason most plays are not closet dramas and opera has fans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu6DwAJs44Y

>>24567496
You're confessing the fact that you can't control shit, dangerous really. Imagine if niggas shot people every time they were "on a crisis".

>>24567617
did you even watch it or are you just reacting like some spazz who can't control themselves?

>>24567411 (OP)
>things that never happened

>>24567411 (OP)
didn't read, don't care
i want to cum inside her vagina if you catch my drift

she looks trans

Nothing GG Allin or Con-Dom haven't done before. Yawn.

>>24567672
those are good acts

>>24567672
>before
Marina was doing weird Serbian performance art before them anon, she is an old lady

>>24567411 (OP)
Not doing much for the theory that women exist to be impregnated and made to either care for kids, or just killed after they cant breed anymore.

>>24567671
She is 36 months on hrt

What did she expect, when she basically organised a BDSM show?

>>24567496
nta but if we were just dumb monkeys we'd be less evil. its impressive how creative and depraved people can be with how evil they are. I think that fits into "having a soul" but not the rose-tinted glasses perspective of religious people

>>24568615
>“By the way, a Bulgarian I met lately in Moscow,” Ivan went on, seeming not to hear his brother’s words, “told me about the crimes committed by Turks and Circassians in all parts of Bulgaria through fear of a general rising of the Slavs. They burn villages, murder, outrage women and children, they nail their prisoners by the ears to the fences, leave them so till morning, and in the morning they hang them—all sorts of things you can’t imagine. People talk sometimes of bestial cruelty, but that’s a great injustice and insult to the beasts; a beast can never be so cruel as a man, so artistically cruel. The tiger only tears and gnaws, that’s all he can do. He would never think of nailing people by the ears, even if he were able to do it. These Turks took a pleasure in torturing children, too; cutting the unborn child from the mother’s womb, and tossing babies up in the air and catching them on the points of their bayonets before their mothers’ eyes. Doing it before the mothers’ eyes was what gave zest to the amusement. Here is another scene that I thought very interesting. Imagine a trembling mother with her baby in her arms, a circle of invading Turks around her. They’ve planned a diversion: they pet the baby, laugh to make it laugh. They succeed, the baby laughs. At that moment a Turk points a pistol four inches from the baby’s face. The baby laughs with glee, holds out its little hands to the pistol, and he pulls the trigger in the baby’s face and blows out its brains. Artistic, wasn’t it? By the way, Turks are particularly fond of sweet things, they say.”
>“Brother, what are you driving at?” asked Alyosha.
>“I think if the devil doesn’t exist, but man has created him, he has created him in his own image and likeness.”

>>24567496
>behave
By what standard are you saying behave? What defines behaving vs not behaving?

>>24567411 (OP)
Was the crowd Estonian or, at least, Slav in some way?
Sounds like things an Estonian would do to an unconscious woman.

>>24568814
when we are not making each other suffer for amusement

I am 100% sure that I would stay there the six hours to fight off anyone who tried anything.
>inb4 white knight
I don't care who was in that stage or how retarded said "artist" is, snivelling malice should always be stopped and answered with violence, when necessary. I can't think of anything more despicable than only having the "courage" to act against someone when they won't react and you won't face any consequences. It's not even about the person in the stage, it's about reminding any cunt trying to act against them that the rot they carry around in their souls has no place being expressed towards others. To do any less is to fail as a person.
Bystander effect motherfuckers have they share of guilt too.

>>24569044
they would gang up on you and incapacitate you then go back to taunting her and probably be emboldened to do something worse now that they've gotten away with beating you up, you really don't understand human psychology, this is how mob justice happens, this is how hitler happened, etc

>>24567411 (OP)
Such is mankind. They are much like dogs. Cowardly, sniveling. Sometimes noble. But not too often.
>>24568841
You are my favourite poster in this board. Self hating Estonian You.

>>24569055
Capricious, industrious, frivolous, murderois.
Man is much like a dog.

>>24569054
I don't care. What kind of cunt only enters a fight if he knows that he will win? A coward, that's who. I'm also not naive or a martyr. The first thing I would do would be grabbing the revolver. Strength and consequence are the only kind of language someone like that understands.

>>24569061
>coward
lmao, this word is useless while you are energized by a crowd, nazis still killed millions even though we call them cowards today

>>24567411 (OP)
I love Marina because she's the one who really drove home for me how doing, experiencing, feeling things that might seem unpleasant, terrifying, disgusting, painful, etc. instead of the things that are safe, comfortable, familiar, painless, is such a vitally important and necessary part of life and the human condition. She really embodies this in her art.
I also really love her works with Ulay that explore love and the duality of the feminine/masculine in a uniquely physical, material way.

>>24567470
Wdhmbt