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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 8:27:15 AM No.24572012
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Any fiction books that discuss national socialism/fascism but in a good light?
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 8:42:01 AM No.24572023
>>24572012 (OP)
Nope the world seem to unanimously have agreed that there is nothing good about those systems, at least that part of the world that can read and would produce "fiction books"
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 8:45:26 AM No.24572027
>>24572023
Nobody voted on anything
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 9:31:50 AM No.24572052
Try "Der Mytus des 20. Jahrhunderts" by Alfred Rosenberg.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 9:35:20 AM No.24572054
>>24572012 (OP)
>National Socialism

Why not just skip the middle steps and go straight for communism
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 9:37:02 AM No.24572056
>>24572054
NSDAP was communism in one state. The Volksgemeinschaft worked. Turns out, the key to making a communist utopia is NOT being a materialist atheist who irrationally hates people loving their homelands.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 9:48:35 AM No.24572078
The Outlaws by Ernst von Salomon is very good although it doesn't deal directly with the NSDAP
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:03:02 AM No.24572162
>>24572056
>loving their homelands.
As I said, why cling to outdated notions
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:37:07 AM No.24572212
>no, not four. Give me a real answer
>>24572027
Why would you care about a vote? Democracy is weak and subverted by Jews and Bolsheviks
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 12:06:35 PM No.24572248
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>>24572056
>NSDAP was communism in one state
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 12:16:30 PM No.24572270
>>24572248
Churchill forced them to do that, they had no agency.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 2:00:02 PM No.24572399
>>24572248
God, I hate America so much
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 2:29:31 PM No.24572455
>>24572212
Only Jews believe democracy is bad because they know they would be the first on the masses chopping block. Every country wants vermin out and socialized services for the good citizens
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 2:45:11 PM No.24572473
>>24572012 (OP)
>books so banned that liberalists can't even admit they're banned while banning them
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 3:17:51 PM No.24572541
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>>24572012 (OP)
Funny subreddit. There's a link to daily Kos article where the author watches a man look through a little free library, not take anything and leave, and then notices rightwing bumper stickers on his car - leading to a collective hate fantasy
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/7/1/2331148/-Even-Little-Libraries-are-Threatened
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 3:25:52 PM No.24572564
>>24572012 (OP)
Probably Evola, but if you're asking for positive cases for fascism that are intellectually honest, those are mutually exclusive concepts.
The closest you'll get will be analyses of the development of Singapore under Lee Kuan Yew, but I suspect that will not scratch your chuddy itch.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 6:38:21 PM No.24573006
>>24572052
>>24572078
No, I'm looking for a fictionalized novel with a plot and setting, not a political analysis of contemporary politics, where the premise is the character is or becomes a natsoc and uses that belief to influence the world around him. It doesn't need to explicitly name what these beliefs are but subtly allude to it.

>inb4 Turner Diaries
One that doesn't involve killing a bunch of minorities because it needs to depict natsoc in a good light.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 6:47:38 PM No.24573028
>>24572162
>do not defend your tribe's territory
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 7:01:14 PM No.24573065
>>24573006
>>24572012 (OP)
None that have the pen of a decent writer behind them. The world was conquered by industrial "democracies", so fiction is shaped by that political hegemony; the same would be true if Germany had won the war, with people asking why there are a lack of writers espousing positive attitudes towards capitalist republics. I've decided that the best solution is being the change you want to see, and I'm slowly trying to brainstorm a somewhat engaging list of ideas for novels that could be published and disseminated into the public without much controversy. The problem I notice is how fuckin garbage the US political scene is, and it infects everything globally. Trying to escape the narrow political world of a degenerate oligarchy means your stuff is unrelatable to your potential audience. How can I reach people in general without being lumped together with dysgenic woke masochists and fraudulent "conservative" psychos?
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 7:42:10 PM No.24573223
>>24572541
> Making the connection, I look down at my dog Zeke and say, โ€œHey look, little buddy! Another brain-dead doofus triggered into searching for books that might not pass his fascist approval!โ€
>I could also assume that perhaps this guy, fresh from a hate filled sermon at his church, was triggered enough to appoint himself the lone protector of Childrenโ€™s Literature.
>I bet he was looking for any books that push a LGBTQ agenda, since those militias types are tender snowflakes fearful of anything remotely woke or diverse in content.
Itโ€™s funny his maga depiction looks like the merchant meme
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 7:46:33 PM No.24573242
>>24572541
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/4/9/2162860/-Cartoon-Manifesto-Calypso
The comic is terrible too. Why would the Flying Spaghetti Monster, which was invented to mock Christians, be named after Ted Kaczynski and help a Christian school shooter? Is this what anal sex on the brain 24/7 does to a person?
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 9:12:19 PM No.24573597
>>24573065
It's imperative that such a book that explores this kind of topic is as nuanced as possible, while still hitting the key points (race, racemixing). The trick is to write in such a way that the actual natsoc ideals are masked behind fiction. Otherwise, if you're too on the nose, you'll never get published, let alone have your work be seen in the public sphere before it gets shut down.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 9:18:54 PM No.24573633
>>24572012 (OP)
Every postwar fiction book concedes by its nature that we live in an artless hell and the wrong side won.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 2:56:44 AM No.24574499
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Most of what you're going to get is explicitly propaganda.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 3:25:26 AM No.24574550
>>24574499
This is why normies can't get behind natsoc. All the fictional works produced supporting it is over the top violence and involves (justifiably) killing a bunch of brown people. Closest is probably Harry Potter where Draco Malfoy is the archetypal Nazi but he's the "bad guy" in the series.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 4:43:07 AM No.24574707
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yo dawg I herd u like banned books
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 5:26:38 AM No.24574775
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>>24574550
>This is why normies can't get behind natsoc. All the fictional works produced supporting it is over the top violence and involves (justifiably) killing a bunch of brown people.
That stuff is pornographic in nature (there are different forms of pornography) and is about seeking catharsis. Nazi race autism was also very German as the society has gone through repeated purification movements from beer, religion (Luther), reason (Kant), and now the environment, which is why they have the most complex system of sorting their trash.

Germany was a highly militarized society too. That's the other thing. What neo-nationalists today struggling to understand about it as they try to get it to "work" is that nationalism actually allows a contradictory, diverse coalition to unite under the same banner because they have that in common along with a shared enemy. Germany in the 1930s had historically not been a unified nation until fairly recently.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 7:44:55 AM No.24574992
>>24574707
lol
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 9:03:11 AM No.24575101
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>>24572212
That's the thing. I don't. So the world's opinion on fascism means nothing to me.

>>24572012 (OP)
I found picrel a few hours ago
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 9:38:20 PM No.24576580
>>24574499
this book is literally haopening in real time