Anonymous
7/22/2025, 7:25:49 PM No.24573155
Where to start with Marquis de Sade?
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 7:33:41 PM No.24573187
>>24573174
But that would be anti-semitic and transphobic.
But that would be anti-semitic and transphobic.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 7:37:48 PM No.24573202
>>24573187
Your entire worldview and reality is a lie. People are not god. You are not god. People do not control or determine reality. The people in power do not control or determine reality. People are not equal. People are not blank slates, people are not inherently good noble savages, people are not perfectible, people are not rational and rationally disconnected from their environment. There is no realm of higher purely rational thought disconnected from emotions and impulses. People and society cannot be improved through social engineering by leftist collage educated experts, managerial bureaucrats, or the state.
Progress is not inherent to reality. Reality is not entirely and fundamentally material. reality is not fundamentally dead but alive and consciousness and responsive and evolving. The divine and spiritual is real. the meak are not more moral than the great. Weakness and tolerance are not virtuous. Everything just is what it is. Reality is inherently mysterious. Self loathing is just as evil as hubris. Your entire worldview is just a rationalization for the ruling class to gain ever increasing amounts of power and turn people into cogs. Your entire worldview is just lying and stealing and parasitism. Your entire worldview is just a way to deny reality and evade responsibility and remain immature and evil and not grow up and be virtuous and responsible and like an actual fucking adult.
Your entire worldview and reality is a lie. People are not god. You are not god. People do not control or determine reality. The people in power do not control or determine reality. People are not equal. People are not blank slates, people are not inherently good noble savages, people are not perfectible, people are not rational and rationally disconnected from their environment. There is no realm of higher purely rational thought disconnected from emotions and impulses. People and society cannot be improved through social engineering by leftist collage educated experts, managerial bureaucrats, or the state.
Progress is not inherent to reality. Reality is not entirely and fundamentally material. reality is not fundamentally dead but alive and consciousness and responsive and evolving. The divine and spiritual is real. the meak are not more moral than the great. Weakness and tolerance are not virtuous. Everything just is what it is. Reality is inherently mysterious. Self loathing is just as evil as hubris. Your entire worldview is just a rationalization for the ruling class to gain ever increasing amounts of power and turn people into cogs. Your entire worldview is just lying and stealing and parasitism. Your entire worldview is just a way to deny reality and evade responsibility and remain immature and evil and not grow up and be virtuous and responsible and like an actual fucking adult.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 9:24:47 PM No.24573657
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 10:41:12 PM No.24573890
>>24573202
Anon please. The anon you're replying to is not being serious. It's a simple joke, making fun of leftists. Please stop consuming whatever media it is that would compel you to write paragraphs such as this on an Apache cactus harvesting forum.
Anon please. The anon you're replying to is not being serious. It's a simple joke, making fun of leftists. Please stop consuming whatever media it is that would compel you to write paragraphs such as this on an Apache cactus harvesting forum.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 10:42:31 PM No.24573891
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 10:47:16 PM No.24573896
>>24573890
The anon you're replying to is not being serious, it's a copypasta
The anon you're replying to is not being serious, it's a copypasta
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 10:50:09 PM No.24573906
>>24573155 (OP)
The 120 Days is his masterpiece and covers all the bases. There’s no reason to start anywhere else.
It was the first novel he ever wrote, and when he thought it had been lost he spent the rest of his career splintering the scenes and ideas into separate narratives, with a lot less joi de vivre because losing his original masterpiece sucked the soul out of him. Everything else he wrote pales in comparison to the 120 Days.
That doesn’t mean they aren’t still worth reading themselves, just not to begin with.
Something Sade liked to do was pretend to have a moral, so that his stories could be more digestible. This is especially apparent in Crimes of Love, where sometimes he even concludes a story by pretending to be a Christian and saying “So as difficult as this was for me to write, let’s all learn from this and be better Christians!! God bless!!” He also did this to a less ridiculous degree in Justine and most other works, where he pretended to be an “intellectual” with a biting analogy rather than just a pornographer, so that, again, it would be more digestible. This is why Justine is usually the critical touchstone for evaluating him and was printed by Oxford long before Penguin printed the 120 Days. It has intellectual trappings and more of an excuse to exist. But it’s also very diluted.
Pure undistilled Sade is in the 120 Days.
The 120 Days is his masterpiece and covers all the bases. There’s no reason to start anywhere else.
It was the first novel he ever wrote, and when he thought it had been lost he spent the rest of his career splintering the scenes and ideas into separate narratives, with a lot less joi de vivre because losing his original masterpiece sucked the soul out of him. Everything else he wrote pales in comparison to the 120 Days.
That doesn’t mean they aren’t still worth reading themselves, just not to begin with.
Something Sade liked to do was pretend to have a moral, so that his stories could be more digestible. This is especially apparent in Crimes of Love, where sometimes he even concludes a story by pretending to be a Christian and saying “So as difficult as this was for me to write, let’s all learn from this and be better Christians!! God bless!!” He also did this to a less ridiculous degree in Justine and most other works, where he pretended to be an “intellectual” with a biting analogy rather than just a pornographer, so that, again, it would be more digestible. This is why Justine is usually the critical touchstone for evaluating him and was printed by Oxford long before Penguin printed the 120 Days. It has intellectual trappings and more of an excuse to exist. But it’s also very diluted.
Pure undistilled Sade is in the 120 Days.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:56:58 PM No.24574078
>>24573155 (OP)
Justine and philosophy in the bedroom. You don't need much else
120 days is a meme. Maybe you will find if fun but most likely it will be exhausting
Justine and philosophy in the bedroom. You don't need much else
120 days is a meme. Maybe you will find if fun but most likely it will be exhausting