Is Lord of the Rings worth reading? - /lit/ (#24574988)

Anonymous
7/23/2025, 7:41:06 AM No.24574988
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Is it classic literature or more just high tier fantasy?
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 7:45:07 AM No.24574993
>>24574988 (OP)
Leftie memes are all utter cancer
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 7:52:53 AM No.24575002
>>24574988 (OP)
>Commie thinks man ultimately defeats evil in LOTR
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 8:29:34 AM No.24575051
>>24574993
I'm ready for a change tho, tired of working all day and can't even get decent food or health care.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 8:36:43 AM No.24575059
>>24575051
The grass is always greener on the other side. I live in Europe and I have "free healthcare". And by free, I mean 20% of my annual income. That's money I could be investing if I lived in the US.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 8:55:34 AM No.24575089
>>24575059
You are investing in your own health, your retirement days, and the health, education, and safety of your children. What would you have instead? Buttcoin?
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 9:20:56 AM No.24575120
>>24575089
I'm just saying our health care isn't free. If you have even an average middle class salary, you will be paying more or the same as what decent private health care coverage in the US would cost, so the only difference between you and me is that I am forced to invest in it whereis you can choose to invest in it. What's stopping you from getting health care if you wanted? Or are you one of those people who want others to pay for your health care? Because then you do have a point, our healthcare system sure is great for the unemployed and those who make minimum wage, because we have to pay for them.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 9:26:52 AM No.24575128
>>24575120
>oh no, someone else could be saved because of the 20% that is stolen from my pay, I'd prefer to see them die like flies in the streets
Yeah, that's usually what these talks boil down to.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 9:40:26 AM No.24575144
>>24575128
But why do these talks usually always start with your side of the argument trying to gaslight my side of the argument that free health care is actually a good thing for me too, not just for those I am indirectly supporting through my much, MUCH higher contributions? I can see the argument being made that socialized health care has its merit for humanitarian reasons, even if I personally wouldn't agree with it because I already pay for social safety nets from my income tax. But the least you can do is be honest enough to admit that for middle class individuals like me who are the ones who have to pay for it, "free" health care is a shit deal.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 10:11:24 AM No.24575191
>>24575144
Humanitarian reasons don't matter at all, the very simple fact is that you can't live a good life in a shithole country, the stench matters no matter what anyone says. Simplest example for the Americans: Trains are good even if you love cars, by the simple fact that they'll clear out the streets. Not having homeless people around sure would be nice as well, this has nothing to do with humanitarianism. I don't remember who it was but there was one socialist who said something along the lines of: I'm not a socialist because I love the poor, I'm a socialist precisely because I hate them and wish they no longer existed.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 10:12:34 AM No.24575193
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>>24574988 (OP)
>high tier fantasy
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 10:17:40 AM No.24575199
>>24575191
And most importantly this is to be achieved in a culturally palettable way, people aren't interchangeable economic units, Americans and Chinese don't tick the same so socialism in America would not look the way socialism in China does, best example: FDR. Of course the majority of socialists in America are butthurt thirdies taking out their anger on society and Reagan era brainrot ideas still lingering around (and subsequent groups affirming said propaganda since thats where their understanding of their own supposed ideology comes from).
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 3:15:33 PM No.24575664
>>24575199
I have never even met someone who identifies as socialist who wasn’t white
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 3:27:05 PM No.24575681
>>24574988 (OP)
china is fascist though?
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 3:32:06 PM No.24575689
>>24574988 (OP)
To answer your question, yes it's worth reading.
It is the basis for a lot of fantasy slop that came after but it's not slop. Del Ray just capitalized on it's success by forcing authors to follow a formula based on it.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 3:33:51 PM No.24575693
it's a good story for children that you can enjoy well into your adulthood. and the movies are trash
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 6:09:29 PM No.24576036
>>24574988 (OP)
I'd say it's worth checking out, even though it has some of that malaise typical of high fantasy (like excessive description), it is also uncharacteristically psychedelic and whimsical at times, probably as a result of having the hobbits as protagonists instead of the obvious choice Aragorn.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 6:55:10 PM No.24576136
>>24575693
>For children
This is such cope, no child has ever read these fucking books.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 6:56:29 PM No.24576139
>>24576036
Literally half the books take place from Aragorn's perspective you fucking idiot.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 8:26:45 PM No.24576389
>>24576136
Where do you think you are?
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 8:30:19 PM No.24576394
>>24575089
Kek, you've clearly never experienced free health care. You sit in a waiting room for hours and hours and are usually told to fuck off by the doctor and completely ignored. Only comes in handy when it's serious, and even then they catch it too late or you end up out-of-work waiting for the waiting list to get to you, as a good taxpayer like yourself has to watch as nearly deceased old people, the hopeless terminally ill, dysgenics, and illegal imigrants, and retards get served faster than you.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 9:46:49 PM No.24576592
>>24576394
It works well in my country, where are you from? Even the NHS used to work before the UK went full retard.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 9:58:24 PM No.24576608
>>24576394
I remeber sowell talking about this.
he said you either tradeoff time, money, or quality
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 10:18:59 PM No.24576655
>>24574988 (OP)
>is it in this category, or that category
You consoomer NPC faggots make me sick.
Also, the left can't meme.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 10:21:34 PM No.24576661
>>24575051
Maybe you should have studied harder in school.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 10:32:37 PM No.24576688
Not really. it's archaic genre slop. I remember reading it when the first movie came out and being bored to death.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 10:53:56 PM No.24576732
>>24574988 (OP)
It's the only fantasy book worth reading. Even Tolkien contemporaries like Le Guin pale in comparision. Contemporary fantasy is written by people whose idea of being adventurous is asking for regular milk instead of onions milk for their venti caramel cappuccino with vegan chocolate chips.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 11:12:27 PM No.24576794
>>24576688
If only you had been.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 11:26:40 PM No.24576839
>>24575051
Guess what, you also need to work all day in communism and you will not get decent food or health neither.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 11:51:46 PM No.24576903
>>24576655
>consumerism bad
>leftism bad

No contradiction?
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 12:15:19 AM No.24576971
>>24575120
>>24575128
you don't even need to take 20 percent of anyone's pay to pay for healthcare costs
healthcare costs in the usa are massively inflated due to insurance company grifters
also, people in the usa are much less healthy than they could be
nobody wants to solve social issues anymore because they think the government will use it as an excuse to come for their rights (which often times, thats all it is unfortunately)
but those social issues still need to be solved and muh individualism lets all be gay capitalist slaves and sell our chidlren to moloch isnt solving it either
its all so tiresome
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 12:16:23 AM No.24576975
>>24576732
thats funny cus thats basically a hobbit's idea of being adventurous too
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 1:09:37 AM No.24577079
>>24575681
Same thing and it's based
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 1:11:32 AM No.24577082
>>24577079
If Musso didn't let the retards get their way so many times and the commies weren't so butthurt and actually reciprocated his approaches we'd be living in a better world. What happened to Gramsci was an absolute shame, the red-brown feud was just more pointless infighting.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 1:17:25 AM No.24577092
>>24574988 (OP)
>Capitalism has dominated for centuries
>but CHINA not this day.