Thread 24576062 - /lit/

Anonymous
7/23/2025, 6:21:21 PM No.24576062
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Is this the right order?
>Iliad
>Odyssey
>Aeneid
>Works and Days and Theogony (Thomas Cooke)
>Metamorphoses (Golding)
>Divine Comedy (Longfellow)
>Paradise Lost
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 6:23:21 PM No.24576068
Insert the whole greek and latin canon between Aeneid and Theogony and ur good
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 6:27:37 PM No.24576082
>dante
>milton

Why?
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 6:28:09 PM No.24576085
Are you going with Lattimore for the Homeric epics or with Chapman/Pope?
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 6:28:44 PM No.24576086
>>24576062 (OP)
What can I help you with today? What is the order? Here it is in alphabetical order:
>Aeneid
>Divine Comedy (Longfellow)
>Iliad
>Metamorphoses (Golding)
>Odyssey
>Paradise Lost
>Works and Days and Theogeny (Thomas Cooke)
And here it is shortest to longest:
>Iliad
>Aeneid
>Odyssey
>Paradise Lost
>Metamorphoses (Golding)
>Divine Comedy (Longfellow)
>Works and Days and Theogony (Thomas Cooke)
And here it is in chronological order:
>Works and Days and Theogony (Thomas Cooke) [Multiple sources from the fourth century BCE suggest that Hesiod lived before Homer.]
>Iliad
>Odyssey
>Aeneid
>Metamorphoses (Golding)
>Divine Comedy (Longfellow)
>Paradise Lost
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 6:30:08 PM No.24576087
>>24576085
I'm reading for pleasure
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 6:30:11 PM No.24576088
>>24576062 (OP)
Why are you skipping all the great works of Antiquity?
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 6:36:51 PM No.24576099
>>24576085
>an outdated text or a very outdated text
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 6:38:49 PM No.24576104
>>24576099
Chapman's is the only translation approved by Homer himself.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 6:39:06 PM No.24576106
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>>24576099
So true!
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 6:43:21 PM No.24576114
>>24576062 (OP)
Reading order? I think so.
>>24576082
Dante has the best poem there
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 6:44:21 PM No.24576117
>>24576099
Lattimore isn't outdated.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 7:09:56 PM No.24576183
>>24576062 (OP)
>Divine Comedy (Longfellow)
It's funny that Ezra Pound was embarrassed to be related to Longfellow (not that close)
Just learn the language, it's worth it
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 7:11:05 PM No.24576189
>>24576104
Lol
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 7:11:44 PM No.24576196
>>24576183
I would be more embarrassed to speak in a broken Italian accent, not being understood by Italians, yet broadcast unhinged radio episodes for years.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 7:12:21 PM No.24576197
>>24576196
Okay, Jew
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 7:13:40 PM No.24576204
>>24576183
>Ezra Pound
Ain't listening to a Milton hater
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 7:14:15 PM No.24576207
>>24576197
Italians said this, fag.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 7:26:53 PM No.24576246
>>24576204
He’s right about Milton being a bad influence. Where he is coming from isn’t comprehensible. Ironically Pound/Eliot were even worse influences. Anyway you talk like a hick
>>24576207
The broadcasts were in English, I think you’re thinking of some of the cantos
I can tell you love to take it up the ass, faggot
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 7:29:33 PM No.24576253
>>24576246
>Ironically Pound/Eliot were even worse influences.
TRVKE
Replies: >>24576282
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 7:37:51 PM No.24576272
>>24576246
>In addition to the radio scripts, Pound was writing for the newspaper Il Popolo di Alessandria. He wanted to write for the more reputable Corriere della Sera in Milan, but the editor regarded his Italian as "incomprehensible".
I meant this kek
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 7:40:48 PM No.24576282
>>24576253
Pound and Milton were both highly learned (for poets) and exquisite musicians when it comes to the sound of words with idiosyncrasies (this enables the music)
So when emulated by lesser musicians they imitate the idiosyncrasies which they don't have the skill to pull off, or the right to attempt
Pound tried to guide people towards a more complete poetic education in his critical writings, maybe to little avail
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 7:42:56 PM No.24576287
>>24576272
This just shows how naive he was, which is an admirable quality
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 7:46:59 PM No.24576298
>>24576282
So true but sadly Pound praises Henry James' work in ABC of Reading which has overly Latinate, stilted, and awkward English prose. Worse than Milton in poetry. I never understood his love for James.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 7:56:56 PM No.24576319
>>24576298
I know whenever I read James its like my brain starts malfunctioning
James was contemporary and picked up all these subtle distinctions of cultures. A world that’s gone now. And Pound probably just wasn’t so autistic about prose style
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 9:44:57 PM No.24576589
>Goldings Ovid
Don’t fall for this. Iambic heptametre is an affront to God and the Muses. He’s only ever recalled by Shakespeare when Shakespeare wanted to affect what his audience considered an outdated idiom in their own time. A classic example of /lit/ shilling a work on the grounds of antiquity alone
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 1:48:43 AM No.24577180
>>24576189
It's true
(Chapman asks the first question, Homer's ghost replies)

What may I reckon thee,
Whose heav’nly look showes not, nor voice sounds, man?
‘I am,’ sayd he, ‘that spirit Elysian
That in thy native ayre, and on the Hill
Next Hitchin’s left hand, did thy bosome fill
With such a floode of soule that thou wert faine
(With acclamations of her rapture then)
To vent it to the echoes of the vale;
When meditating of me, a sweet gale
Brought me upon thee; and thou didst inherit
My true sense (for the time then) in my spirit,
And I invisible went prompting thee
To those fayre greenes where thou didst English me.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 1:51:22 AM No.24577189
>>24576085
Peter Green