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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 12:41:41 AM No.24577035
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Amor fati is a Latin phrase that may be translated as "love of fate" or "love of one's fate". It is used to describe an attitude in which one sees everything that happens in one's life, including suffering and loss, as good or, at the very least, necessary.

Amor fati is often associated with what Friedrich Nietzsche called "eternal recurrence", the idea that everything recurs infinitely over an infinite period of time. From this he developed a desire to be willing to live exactly the same life over and over for all eternity ("...long for nothing more fervently than this ultimate eternal confirmation and seal").
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amor_fati

Nicha loved the world as it is.
Che Guevara tried to change the world.

https://youtube.com/shorts/mOrvR86uqI0
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 12:46:24 AM No.24577044
>>24577035 (OP)
Ok butnwhen I read philosophy i want me some epistemology logic linguistics metaphysics ethics phil of mind science etc not a self help book with feel good quotes I can print on a tea towel
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 12:49:29 AM No.24577048
>>24577035 (OP)
Bad post you retarded robot. Delete yourself.
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 12:53:27 AM No.24577055
>>24577035 (OP)
To love fate is to love change because the change is fated. You describe amor fati as if it means โ€œjust sit still and let life happen,โ€ but really it just means to accept the results of the life you live because they could never have been any different and they never will be.
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 12:59:33 AM No.24577063
>>24577055
Love to destiny means you' accept whatever you get.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 3:15:26 AM No.24577378
>>24577035 (OP)
>It is used to describe an attitude in which one sees everything that happens in one's life, including suffering and loss, as good or, at the very least, necessary.
I don't think that's what he was on about. Wasn't it his "formula for greatness?"
Amor Fati isn't about seeing everything in your life as good or necessary, but accepting it and (in the context of his hypothetical demon of eternal return) saying "Yes" to the life you have (instead of bemoaning being forced to live it again and again).

With that said, I personally think there are circumstances in which the only "great" or respectable response is to rage against the situation one finds oneself in.
There's also a bit of an obvious paradox in that, if one finds oneself balking at the demon of eternal return's curse, he couldn't have done anything different - it was his fate.
The "formula for greatness" only functions if one has the free will to choose how to react to fate - but if how one reacts to their fate is fated, there can be no such thing as choosing Amor Fati.
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 4:01:05 AM No.24577483
You know what, on top of this >>24577378
Amor Fati is no formula for greatness anyway.
There are kinds of people who can easily say "Yes!" to the prospect of living their lives over and over again eternally, and they are spoiled brats living comfortably - for every 1 hero choosing to face his fate bravely, you could have a hundred spoiled brats who find the prospect of living their lives over again agreeable for no great reasons.
And how are we slicing "greatness"?
You could give a slave the curse of eternal return.
Will he become great?
Perhaps he could, on learning he is cursed to live his life over again eternally, be inspired to rebel, and he becomes a folk legend for rebelling against his oppressors. Even if he dies trying, the joy of choosing to rebel is what would make his life worth living again to him, so that's what he chooses to do.
Rather than becoming some legend and folk hero, he'll likely be another forgotten rebel against the machine. If he's lucky Amor Fati would make him "great", but it is no guarantee. Would it at least make him great to himself?
Would he have been "greater" if he chose, on being cursed to eternal return, to be a really "great" slave, as in more servile, more submissive, working harder, aiming more to please?
Is that greatness?
If he's lucky he'd be remembered as a "great slave", but he'd still be a slave, and it's more likely he'd be remembered, if at all, as a slave -not a great man-.
If being a good bottom for life is his personal idea of greatness, great for him, but I don't think that would make him a great man.

Someone wiser than me argue with this.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 4:05:30 AM No.24577491
>>24577044
Both of those are the same things
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 10:36:03 AM No.24578010
>>24577048
OP is fag