The only demonstrable, repeatable morality that the world has yet coughed up is the morality of power.

>>24577453 (OP)
>demonstrable, repeatable morality
This is meaningless and unfalsifiable. I could, for example, point to the Buddhist Five Precepts, a pacifist moral code that has endured for thousands of years and that millions of people presently follow. But because you use vague words like "demonstrable" and "repeatable", you'll spin out a new definition that excludes my example.

>>24577468
What happens to those Buddhists when I drop a nuke on their ass? Suddenly, I become right. Power makes no moral judgment, it simply is. The entity that wields power can never be wrong.

>>24577453 (OP)
As the other anon pointed, what do you mean by demonstrable, repeatable morality?

>>24577470
What is power? Only top destroy but not create? I understand the concept of creative destruction, but at a certain point ya gotta chill just so the universe can breathe.

>>24577481
I mean as close to absolute as we can get. Even the law of nature adopts the doctrine of power as its foremost principle.

>>24577482
Destruction is the genesis of creation.

>>24577470
>buddhists arent allowed to have nuke defense in this theoretical situation
>(You)re allowed to have the ability to drop nukes indiscriminately, something that no one on the planet has the ability to do

what a dumb thought experiment. by youre own logic, since (You) dont have the power to destroy them, they are correct

>>24577453 (OP)

Power is contigent on people and their relations. Not vice versaa

>>24577501
>buddhists arent allowed to have nuke defense in this theoretical situation
See? Now you're getting it.
>(You)re allowed to have the ability to drop nukes indiscriminately, something that no one on the planet has the ability to do
If you're the only person on the planet with access to nukes, you essentially hold power over every living being, and your word is law.

>>24577485
>Destruction is the genesis of creation.
And creation is the genesis of destruction. Something must first be created to be destroyed. Violence is a primordial thing in the universe, as you realize, and I don't think it should be viewed as a morality. Take those little voices in your head that make you do illogical decision, when you could just use force, and there you have morality. And among moralities, I think the best is the one that makes it the hardest to destroy a society.

>>24577509
you dont control nukes. your ideology is wrong according to your own standards

>>24577512
Violence is the only absolute in life, after death. Your fickle attempts at civilizations fall apart at the first sign of adversity, and we become cavemen throwing proverbial rocks at each other. What does that say?

>>24577513
And the person who controls nukes can enforce their ideology on me, which is a direct demonstration of the statement in the OP.

>>24577518
no one is threatening you with nukes

>>24577520
Because I don't warrant that amount of force. I'm threatened by police force for failing to abide by someone else's rules. If I hold enough power, that response graduates to the nuclear. Are you having trouble reading between the lines?

>>24577524
you break laws and rules every single day of your life

>>24577453 (OP)
Power isn't a morality, it's a strategy.

>>24577468
Not OP, but being able to fully live by the ideals of Buddhism is predicated on one's own personal power, and (to a greater degree and perhaps unfortunately, the power exercised on the Buddhist by others).
I find Buddhist morality to be highly agreeable, but in order to exercise it fully the Buddhist must be powerful - which is a paradox of which they are aware.

>>24577453 (OP)
Nietzsche himself, being a true philosopher, does not really believe in the 'morality' of power. Come now.

>>24577453 (OP)
It's just a metric, you can call whoever you like good or evil, it doesn't match power too well to most people. Anyways to me morality is an artifact of language, like most things philosotards discuss as if they were actually tangible things bound to study.