>trannies good
>jews good
>whites bad
>men bad
What a swan song. Thanks, Cormac.

>>24577853 (OP)

>trannies good
This is quite jarring but you can see the roots of it in early books (Suttree in particular). CM always had an indulgent attitude towards louche / demi-monde characters (e.g. the tranny / whatever prostitute in Suttree). He obviously has a bit of an outsider mentality. Partly the Irish Catholic background; partly being a poverty-stricken writer, I guess.

There's a surprising amount of weird sexuality in TP & SM. You have the incest for a start. Then there's the old guy with his lurid tales of blowjobs in telephone boxes from 300-lb women and the friend who only ever screwed women aged 70+ and Sheddan’s account of his girlfriend who is ino furry stuff and the Bianca side character who lives for sex and wants to try everything anyone can think of. I suspect it's partly just an old writer trying slightly too hard to show he's with it, but it might also be a deeper consequence of being an old male artist. Sex is how you give death the finger and I guess CM could see the reaper opening the door by this point.

Back to Debussy, I also suspect CM might have met a high-functioning tranny or two at the Santa Fe institute (a disproportionate number of good software engineers are MtF traps). Not impossible he could have been friendly with one and simply put that in the book. (It would be interesting to see all the drafts of TP & SM to see what ideas originated when. The basic tragic brother-sister idea was from long before Santa Fe, but Debussy could have been a late addition.)


>jews good
Yeah, this is a thing for sure, and you have to wonder how CM fits this particular piece into his overall mental jigsaw. Think how openly the average Acela corridor jew hates and despises the John Grady Cole - Billy Parham - Sherriff Bell type. CM can't possibly have been oblivious to this. Maybe he just mentally tags them all as "bad urban jews" or something.


>whites bad
Naa, I don’t really get this vibe . . .

>men bad
. . . and I definitely don’t get this one. “Masculinity good” is so much the core of the CM outlook that even his fairly substantial shift towards fashionable nonsense in these books doesn’t threaten it. Think about the episode on the oil platform. Competent men doing men stuff is balm for Bobby's troubled soul. It is always a Good Thing in Cormac's universe.


There is plenty more to dislike without White Men Bad. The most annoying thing for me was probably how wonderful CM / Bobby seem to think petty (and not so petty) criminals are. (If you think Cormac as narrator disapproves of Bobby here or anywhere else, then sorry, I'm just not feeling it.) Bobby has no problem with Sheddan and all the conversation in the restaurant with Kline is predicated upon Mafia types being pretty cool and awesome. This really doesn’t square with the morality CM seems to espouse in, say, the Border Trilogy.

I love Israel so much bros, they are truly god chosen people :)
Does anyone else here feels the same?

>>24577853 (OP)
I liked da time bobby went on de oil platform and the oil platform was empty and he walked around in the empty and silent and creaking and made sandwich and drank beer and we felt like something was coming but de coming never did come :D

>>24578274
This was such a specific and deliberate thing you have to wonder what the hell it’s all about. Is is no more than Bobby just thinking about Oiler dying mysteriously at sea and worrying "they" are going to get him the same way? Perhaps CM happened to experience something like this and was so struck by it that he just put it in the book without worrying about how (or whether) it fitted?

>>24578307
I think de was "fragment" from (half abandoned) "alphabet agency subplot" was "forced addition-by-power-of-editor" and justified for dey "mood", "atmosphere", "tension-building" purposes

>>24578191
Nice post. Sorry to hear you still have a problem with Jews

>>24578820
Gay post
Sorry to hear you're still goycattle

>>24578260

bait post but honestly, they created a nation of of millions amongst a bunch of hostile arab nations, vastly outnumbered and win every time after repeatedly being attacked, hard to think god doesn't favor them and maybe Cormac wanted to pick up some of that favor from god on his way out the door.

>>24578884
they have full backing from the most powerful countries

cormac was just a boomer.

I've read 5 McCarthy books and liked them all a lot: Blood Meridian, The Road, Child of God, Outer Dark, and No Country for Old Men

Sounds like Suttree is pretty well liked around these parts so that will probably be the next one I read. Is the Border Trilogy good and worth reading? How does it size up with the rest of his work

>>24578903
Suttree is his 2nd best literary achievement after BM. Haven't read the trilogy.

I will only buy them because I want to have a complete Cormac McCarthy collection but yea, not looking good.

>>24578884
>win every time after repeatedly being attacked
Not hard when the US hands you all your weaponry and you're attacking children

>>24578921

cope harder encampment tard, all the arab nations are a bunch of little children and grandmothers and sick doctors and journalists, when pretending to be victims to the big bad america, and portray themselves as strong, muslim, fighters backed by hundreds of millions in Iranian weapons when presenting themselves to their own people

>>24578934
There's no merit to what Israel does. They are fully supported by their cucks in America and parts of Europe on every level: political, economic, military. Meanwhile Iran is sanctioned by the West and manages to make missile weapons locally that could destroy Israel. That's the real merit. And I hope they get nukes as well. Total Aryan Victory.

>>24578914
>I will only buy them because I want to have a complete Cormac McCarthy collection but yea, not looking good.
They don't really work as a whole but that doesn't mean they're a dead loss. There are lots of good things in them. They're still very much worth getting if you like CM.

>>24578899

They won in 48 without western weapons or assistance, can't blame Cormac for wanting to attach himself to the people that have an unstoppable winning dangerous force about them like the Judge or Anton Chigurh he wrote about.

>>24578941

you don't even have a coherent thought, oh no! the persians and arab states numbering in the billions with vast oil wealth can't wipe out israel because they don't have access to western capitol because of sanctions???

>>24578953
Your daddy USA came to help you as soon as Iran was hitting you badly, jew. Macron, another jew slave, said that any peace deal with Iran must include giving up their missiles. You're protected and coddled. What you do has no merit.

>>24578964

we are in agreement, the USA, France and Israel, are stronger than all the 2 billion muslims, their isis head chopping savagery and oil wealth and Allah backing their every move. Is this supposed to be a bad thing? are you some bangladeshi incel or something?

>>24578903
If you've enjoyed five CM novels, why would you care two hoots about /lit/'s opinion of the others? Just get 'em and read 'em.

>>24578978
You can't fight on your own. You need your slaves. When the far right and the zoomers remove the jewish influence from their governments, it's game over.

>>24579004

mohammedan revealed, the weakest argument is promising glorious future revenge as if it's certainty

Get with the winning team, even Tommy Robinson now supports Israel.

>>24578260
They are the only ones protecting the Christians of the Middle-East right now, together with the vatniks still stationed there. It's actually kind of fucked. While right-wing Americucks are posting monke Putin and "won't die for Israel" memes, Jews and Russians are protecting their coreligionists

>>24579036
Tommy has always supported Mizrahi Jews and Coptic Christians because they keep getting attacked by Muzzies.

>>24579043
Israelis kill Christians all the same. They aren't protecting anyone who isn't a jew like them.

>>24579047
Israelis rescue Christians all the time. They are the only country in the Mid-East whose Christian pop keeps rising. Some brown Jewish kid is fighting right now to protect Christians from Muslims, and you are sitting here slandering him... But yeah, keep using the people of non-Western Christendom as a rhetorical point when libtards call Christians privileged. Got to convince little White girls to give birth to have brown rape babies somehow

This is their idea of "protecting christians" btw

>>24579053
Do you think Israel has ever done anything wrong?

>>24579062
Of course, every culture has done something wrong. Every country has hit a wrong target during a war or had a soldier go AWAL and shot a civie in a PTSD attack. Every country has prejudice or parts of their history they would rather forget.
But Israelis don't go house to house cutting the throats of every non-Israeli when they take a piece of territory. The Muslim extremists do that when they take a Christian or Druze town. If you don't admit this you are letting a peasant superstitious dread get in the way of stark reality for people a lot like you and me

>>24579068
Anti-semites don't care about Aramaics and Copt because they are also Semitic

>>24579068
>But Israelis don't go house to house cutting the throats of every non-Israeli when they take a piece of territory.
They use bullets instead. And then they crossdress with clothes from the dead women.

>>24579068
There is quite a lot of pretty unpleasant footage from gaza the past couple years. Lot of unarmed people being shot, and lately images of clear starvation. The Muslim extremists in the region may be worse, idk.

I'm not so naive as to think war can ever be clean but some of the stuff I see from this conflict is pretty dubious I have to say.

>>24579073
Once again, they don't just shoot civilians in a Holocaust of bullets style wipe out. They've rescued many Arab Christian and Yazhidi women and boys. There's Christians and blue-eyed light-skinned tribespeople alive today because of the Israelis.
>crossdress
They don't have to crossdress or take clothes from dead people because they have women soldiers. There's been like one crossdressing Mossad agent

>>24579068
>muh druze
Israel and America put a literal terrorist in charge of Syria. The idea is to destabilize and fracture the country so they can steal the land. Liberals and Zionists alike were celebrating the fall of Assad. The former because they're retards, the latter because they knew it's good for their cause.

>>24578941
No actually Western propaganda has been strictly anti-Israel as of late, easily demonstrated with the massive green hair bull-ring wearing support for Palestine, a demographic that has always seamlessly adopted whatever latest establishment position is being pushed. College students and other young impressionable people full of youthful resentment and desperate for conformity move in lockstep about Israel being bad because they're mean to the Muslims who have sworn genocidal hatred of them for the last few thousand years. It's a public opinion being astroturfed by billionaires in silicon valley, banks, health care companies, etc. CFR, Bilderberg, Trilateral, WEF, World Bank, UN, the globohomo complex in general seems pretty set on stripping Israel from the map and it is NOT them conceding to the power of public opinion as self-important chuds will have you believe. Israel has done messed up things but it's hard to judge them considering they're literally in a perpetual fight for their existence

>>24579081
>There is quite a lot of pretty unpleasant footage from gaza the past couple years. Lot of unarmed people being shot, and lately images of clear starvation. The Muslim extremists in the region may be worse, idk.
The Muslim extremists are keeping the people from taking food from Americuck liberals because they want to sell it at greater prices.
>>24579087
>Israel and America put a literal terrorist in charge of Syria. The idea is to destabilize and fracture the country so they can steal the land. Liberals and Zionists alike were celebrating the fall of Assad. The former because they're retards, the latter because they knew it's good for their cause.
Assad literally phoned Bibi asking for help the moment the butcher took Syria
I know we like conspiracy theories about Israel, but I think Assad was not an unintelligent man. Why would you phone a man for help if you know he is the one attacking you?

>>24579098
>The Muslim extremists are keeping the people from taking food from Americuck liberals because they want to sell it at greater prices.
This is such a Jewish accusation lmao. Sure we're killing them but they're trying to make MONEY, which we all know only jews are allowed to do

>>24579097
These guys will continue to insist that they are Dumbledore's army/Katniss Everdeen's friends even when they are on the same side as multiple corporations and kid-castrating educational institutions. YA has done a number on their minds
As for me, I'm not the biggest fan of wealthy liberal Jews but I see nothing wrong in supporting a bunch of poor Mizrahim and Holocaust survivors fighting against a group that has treated them as dhimmis for the past one thousand years, especially if they have saved many Christian people in the process.
They also have yet to answer why they think Assad is a drooling idiot who would call the people who are funding a revolution against him for help on the eve he is overthrown.

>>24579097
Us colleges have been expelling students en masses for being pro Palestine.

>>24579109
Do you literally think Muslims are incapable of scamming their own people? The Third World is the Third World largely because their leaders are thieves. The oligarchs in Muzzie countries steal all the aid money people give them to buy collections of flashy cars and luxurious mansions abroad while the locals live in shit
t. from one of the countries

>>24579086
Tons of bodies of Palestinian children with bullets right in their skulls.

Tons of pictures of Israeli soldiers crossdressing in destroyed Palestinian homes.

We've all seen the news, bud. Why try to hide the facts?

>>24579118
They are noble savages who are obviously incapable of crime. The crime rate rises when they move abroad only because the Chinese or Jews install microschips in their brains

>>24579112
It is very obvious that the Israel issue is not the same as other progressive causes. The DNC are pro Israel for example. The NYT walk a fine line about the subject.

Compare this to the unanimity they display about other progressive issues. It's clearly not the same

>>24579120
It's rare from a small child can't have a bullet lodged in their skull. Their skulls are soft and the bullet goes right through. I've seen a lot of pictures of children who died from the rubble falling on them from a misfired rocket. This has occurred from both Israeli rockets and from Hamas rockets

>>24579120
>He trusts the news on Israel
A Nazi dog-fucker working for the BBC has planted over a thousand fake stories about Israel, including ones featuring photos taken with fake blood, and bodies of Christians killed by Muslims being paraded as Muslims killed by Israel.
A literal skinhead who molested a dog to death has pulled the entire left around by the nose for the past few years... There has never been a horrorcow more influential

>>24577853 (OP)
we have to do something about israel

>>24579061

President of Israel literally called the pope over this to apologize. Israel should open up the Golan to be a christian paradise for ME refugees

>>24579151
It's also a mistake that killed three people, versus an order that has killed hundreds if not thousands. There used to be a lot more Christian Arabs in Gaza and there is a non-Jewish reason they are not there any more
>Golan
The Middle-Eastern Christians are asking Israel to conquer a small piece of land and create a Christian state; I unironically would join the effort if this was the case because many of my friends are Christians from the region. But sadly Macron and Turkey are funding the ISIS squads right now and Israel might be scared to challenge both at the same time

>>24579175
Macron is pro-israel. Trump gave Israel the Golan Heights in like 2019 after Adelson bribed him. They are now stealing the West Bank and looking to expel the people there.

>>24579181
Macron is on the surface pro-Israel but he has funded both anti-Israel and anti-Christian organizations.
You fags constantly hallucinate shady things going on with Israel but deny that European countries can have ugly deep states
Meanwhile they are literally replacing their Indigenous
>They are now stealing the West Bank and looking to expel the people there.
The West Bank (of Jordan) is literally just Samaria; the Muslims who came in the 60s expelled most of the Christians and Samaritans there. They are sometimes clashing with religious brown Jews who are moving back to the region but it does not look like the Jews are planning to expel them
They have been screaming they are being expelled for years but it just never happens

>>24579175

maybe Israeli is controlled by the druze deep state the way they just bombed the fuck out of the goverment and a bunch of sunni islamists to protect the druze in another country. Ironically, this is the colonization westerners are not screaming about.

>>24579113

time and place restrictions. look up the 1st amendment, I can't write free palestine on a brick, smash a window with it and claim it's my right to self expression. All those Expelled students should go to school for free in Tehran.

>>24579263
Yeah but they don't throw people out for having blm riots. That's the point.

>>24579263
They're protesting or publishing articles, not throwing bricks. Still got expelled for going against the zionist establishment.

>>24579254
Kek, for me it is how they constantly protect Christians from Muzzies and get no credit for it; meanwhile right-wing tards like Tucker Carlson use those Christian Assyrians all the time to argue that their religious group is poor and under attack and will not raise a finger to help the actual oppressed Christians because they are slightly off-white. It just proves race > faith because Israeli ethnonationalist will help non-Jew semitic people but White people who share their religion just abuse their memories

>>24579254
The Druze according to legend are the group in this clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG0a9WFkgzU&list=RDoG0a9WFkgzU&start_radio=1
The Jews feel they are deeply religiously significant to them for good reason

>>24579288
Tucker Carlson is a spook, he doesn't believe anything he says. Look at his history of political positions, it's utterly incoherent.

>>24579301
He probably unironically got a generous paycheck from non-Western governments but after Russia gate turned out to be false it is basically a case of the boy who cries Russia
My actual Russian friends seethed when he tried to convince people Russia has it better because he was going round on camera buying lots of shit for US dollars, trying to make life seem cheaper there

>>24579308
He works for the CIA, not Russia or whoever. He's some kind of containment op and maybe also a China hawk. Idk what his deal is exactly but he's definitely cia.

>>24579316
He probs worked for both CIA and FSB at some point
The talking heads change sides because the powers that be take turns bribing them, and they are entirely for sale. Some Sultan in a small country is currently funding the black girl conservatives pushed a few years ago and so she abruptly switched to being anti-Israel and anti-French, since the dude had a beef with Bibi and Macron at the same time.

>>24579336
I wouldn't place Tucker in the same category as people like Candace Owen's though. I think he is a lot more important than that. The guy basically does diplomacy for the us government.

I take your point generally though.

>>24579356
Candance was considered dangerous for constantly attacking France weirdly enough, so I think a lot of them have done work related to international politics.
Tucker they wanted as a kind of link to conservatives in Canada but that fell through because Canadians are mostly controlled by the left-wing
I think that's when he decided to start taking BRIC money.

>>24579097
>No actually Western propaganda has been strictly anti-Israel as of late, easily demonstrated with the massive green hair bull-ring wearing support for Palestine (…) It's a public opinion being astroturfed by billionaires in silicon valley, banks, health care companies, etc. CFR, Bilderberg, Trilateral, WEF, World Bank, UN, the globohomo complex in general (…)
Schizo conspiracy theory time:
I wonder if what you might call a “globalist agenda” (more like internationalist, and particularly set in the West and of European descent or the Anglosphere, including these entities you name) doesn’t have a plan to throw even Zionism under the bus, as part of said globalist agenda.
There’s that admittedly very likely fraudulent letter attributed to Albert Pike in 1871, talking about the planned three world wars, accurately recounting the major forces and players behind WWI and WWII, then saying WWIII will be sparked by fomenting the conflict between the Islamic Middle Eastern world and the Zionists, and this will mutually wipe out (or at least subjugate and crush) both, paving the way for a true “New World Order.”
Now, it seems the earliest actual attribution of this letter is in conspiracy theorist Guy Carr’s 1955 book “Pawns in the Game.” So it’s very dubious, I admit it. But it STILL seems strangely prescient. Truth in fiction sometimes, eh?
So, even Jews and Zionists might be the next targeted pawns in some globalist game.

Captcha: G0YVJ

>>24579308
>>24579356
>>24579336
My main problem with the kind of conservative Tucker represents is that they appropriate the suffering of Christianity in other countries to claim that Christians are oppressed even in America. The goal is to make themselves out to be some kind of victims when they are usually wealthy. Shit is no better than the Obamas and other upper crust blacks claiming to be victims of racism

>>24579367
Jews and pure-blooded Jews specifically were always disproportionally targeted due to the Satanism in the elites. The aristocracy of Eurostan drank the koolaid and think Jesus will incarnate as a Jew again
If you really like schizoing look up what they did to Jesus Christ's family after his death. Romans hunted them wherever they went. The Nazis were led by Satanists and also targeted small villages in Eastern Europe famous for being pure-blooded Jews.
Hungarian soldiers have memoirs about trying to rescue people who were said to be capable of miracles in particular. I don't think these Jews were divine, they just practised Kabbalah, but they triggered the Satanists

>>24579367
Forgot the portion of the alleged letter since I was too tickled by the captcha lol
Pic related.

Also very likely fake because the state of Israel didn’t yet exist then as a geopolitical entity, and Zionism was an obscurer, fledgling movement. Although it DID start in the late 18th century, and there WAS already some deliberate migration of Jews to the land of Palestine around the time, including as a reaction to antisemitism and pogroms in Europe, but it was as a very small minority.

I’m no historian, and I concede it might obviously be bullshit. But, again, it’s a possible instance of truth in fiction, fiction mirroring reality.

The leftist anti-Zionist movement you’re talking about also does seem to explicitly mesh very well with some of this “globalist” (internationalist) agenda of such entities (CFR, Trilateral Commission, UN, etc.). Including the rhetoric of the evil white settlers, reversing the effects of colonialism, European racism, etc. An attempted leveling out of the races and nations, and refugees flooding in from poorer nations of the third world and elsewhere into first world Western countries. The purple-hairs, as you might call them, seem like the vanguard of this agenda, ironically perfect pawns for (rich White and Jewish) billionaire globalist elites and the like, while talking about how they have “smash White Supremacy, including light-skinned Jews like Ashkenazi Jews.”
Just because I sympathize with objections to the atrocities of Israel, doesn’t mean I’m with such progressives on everything. It’s a real tangled case.

Also regardless of how it might seem these purple-hairs have a lot of power and are being backed by the institutions, there still is some sometimes shady and heavyhanded Zionist propaganda, shilling, censoring efforts, including through Trump and what he’s tried to push in universities with public funding, and targeting of immigrant students, besides ordinary students, expressing anti-Zionist views or protesting Israel.

Divide and conquer, maybe?

>>24579043
>They are the only ones protecting the Christians of the Middle-East
woah....

>>24578884
You mean we created it for them, sure

>>24578909
>haven't read all his books
>claims to know what his best books are
pseud

>>24579382
>Hungarian soldiers have memoirs about trying to rescue people who were said to be capable of miracles in particular. I don't think these Jews were divine, they just practised Kabbalah, but they triggered the Satanists
This specifically actually does sound really interesting. You have any pointers on where I could read or hear more about it? This type of folklore of magic, miracles and the like, and them tying into some of modern history, sounds exactly up my alley. Even if it’s of dubious provenance, just studying it as folklore as fascinating enough.

Romans hunting down the descendants of Jesus … yeah, at some point in my extensive schizo-researching, I came upon some formulation of that. Like Baigent/Lincoln/Leign stuff (of the 1981 book “Holy Blood, Holy Grail”, and its sequels, a major source for Dan Brown’s fiction), legends of Jesus’s bloodline being preserved. Even potentially passing down to the Cathars or Albigensians of Southern France, massacred by the Vatican in the 13th as the Albigensian Crusade. Admittedly the Cathars are also said to have provoked them by murdering a messenger sent to them by the Catholic Church, concerned about their heresies, but on the other hand it might be war propaganda. But still really interesting stuff.

Some of the elite Nazis were into pagan, occult, and foreign teachings (from use of Wotan/Odin and Nordic runes, to taking the swastika from Vedic and primordial Indo-European tradition, to an expedition to Tibet, to interest in and alleged expeditions to discover the Holy Grail, etc.). But if they were into Satanism, or led by them, that’d be fascinating. You have any pointers on where I could read up on that, too?

>>24577853 (OP)
I'm just impressed you got anything at all out of that pretentious mess, even if it was only dull /pol/ meme takes

>>24579864
Sincere apologies for off-topic rambling by the way, to the people of the thread and OP actually wanting to talk about McCarthy’s last book. I’ll tone it down after this and maybe fuck off to make another thread about a book or two relevant to these topics, instead of forcing it into this thread.

the new far right in Europe likes the Jews, they integrate, speak the language, don't go on stabbing sprees, love the west, don't live off government money, compare them to syrians africans and afghans, which do you prefer?

European men should join with the Jews, the next time a pakistani grooming gang member tries to tell you All europe will bow to allah, ask them why they can't take jerusalem, al quds, and destroy the jews?

>>24579053
You should consider killing yourself, you’re quite literally too fucking stupid to even risk procreation.

“IDF Strike on Gaza's Catholic Church: Not an accident, but a violation”
https://www.indcatholicnews.com/news/52861
“Israeli Settlers burn West Bank’s last Christian town”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/07/24/israeli-settlers-burn-west-banks-last-christian-town/

>>24579263
Do you understand what a false equivalence is or is pretending to be intelligent just your entire personality?

>>24579974

"As for the damage left behind, Vera said they don't think property is sacred, adding the school receives money from student protesters"

https://abc7.com/post/cal-state-la-building-left-damaged-after-pro/14943765/

smash up a bunch of shit and get expelled, their pro pali views has nothing to do with it.

>>24580240
So that’s yes on the whole you aren’t nearly as intellectual as you like pretending to be thing?

>>24580313
whatever helps you sleep at night queer for palestine.

>>24578979
Because zoomers don't read to cultivate their own taste, they read to fit in and to THINK they're different by reading "heavy" literature that totally nobody else has read
picrel

>>24579890
Sounds like normie conservatives, not far right.

>>24579129
>horrorcow
go back kiwitroon

>>24579308
That shit was genuinely hilarious
>holy shit guys look, they have BREAD!!!
Did he think they eat fucking tree bark over in ziggerland or what

>>24580617
europussy union

>>24580644
cope, pidorashka, and never post here again

>>24580602
I read Blood Meridian before it was popular and never thought I was different by having read it. You're no better than the rest by actively shitting on the novel for no good reason other than it was made popular by BookTok and Wenditroon.

>>24579864
The Romans basically decimated the sacred bloodlines, and I think a lot of the problems of the Jews stemming from the policies of upper class are Satanic in origins. SS literally marched to the song "We are the devil's men". The current Ayatollah admits he has targeted Israel because he thinks Jewish blood makes for a good human sacrifice
>>24579890
I don't identify as far-right but I have always liked Jews, East Asians, Copts, other ethnicities that work to integrate. The people who hate them are usually slackers