Thread 24578822 - /lit/ [Archived: 11 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/24/2025, 7:28:36 PM No.24578822
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>Robert Adler's Hebrew Bible has zero theological explanations in the sense that it tries to lecture you in a religious dogma/background
>it's mostly literary and barebones historical context explanations has more demystifying and illuminating information compared to religious study bibles I've tried
What are some other naturalistic OT + NT commentaries to get the actual context of these texts?
I would also ask for quran too but they are 600 years behind in scholarship in terms of religious freedom of taught as I would not suspect that an agnostic or atheist scholar would still try to stay away from angering the volatile mob of radical muslims even if they live in the western world since they can still get attacked like that french magazine or south park lol.
>inb4 flammatory troll thread go to /his/
I buy into the agnosticism or pantheism like Hume (PBUH) or Spinoza (PBUH) but I would not mind a soldier of faith based Kierkegaard on theism, I just think that these historically important documents have more beauty and mystery in them if you see them as man made, same goes to our universe, God showing off to the mankind his eternal power in earth centric universe is cool but we wouldn't know the beauty of that infinite universe if we stopped at "firmaments and high heavens" and didn't look after that.
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 7:33:31 PM No.24578832
>>24578822 (OP)
>What are some other naturalistic OT + NT commentaries to get the actual context of these texts?
I'm assuming that by context you mean something like a historico-critical approach which answers questions like "what were the writers doing at the time of writing" and "in what sort of society did they live" using archeological findings and pagan sources i.e. a secular analysis of Scripture. I think there's some one named bart who writes things like that
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 7:45:30 PM No.24578867
>>24578832
I like the character of jesus a lot and the moral teachings in the four gospels but when I tried getting into the old testament I couldn't find someone like bart ehrman
Mainly I'm interested in
>job
>psalms
>anything "attributed" to solomon like proverbs, ecclasities and song of songs
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 9:27:56 PM No.24579056
>>24578867
Oh nice you are in a really good spot and certainly pointed in the right direction. Those are all still important parts of the worship of God and relate to the Christ story profoundly. A lot of what I know about these books comes from conversations with priests so I'm not sure what book I could really point you towards...

I think the main thing to keep in mind is that psalms often prefigure Christ or the Christian life in some way; battles of the flesh fought in the Old Testament are commemorated as a guide for Christians' spiritual existence with God. Psalms help us focus on God and praise him appropriately.

The wisdom literature is all great. I've heard that Song of Songs should be read as a love song between Christ and his Church. That one's pretty short and you could probably read it in one sitting.

The Dewey-Rheims I have has footnotes but nothing like a critical exegesis that it sounds like you're looking for. You can always try going to Church!
Anonymous
7/25/2025, 9:49:14 AM No.24580576
>>24578867
Job is an atypical text and considered as a "problem" text.
Psalms are a slam collection of many lyrical traditions.

I'm good for the histories, but they're pretty bloody obvious because they're 2nd temple edits of older documents for polemic purposes. Also the trans tree bbq shit fight. Nehemiah is kind of the first christ. He was a trans whore but he BBQed on the right hill with no trees.