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Anonymous No.24578917 [Report] >>24578938 >>24578968 >>24578969 >>24578977 >>24579024 >>24579186 >>24579267 >>24580071 >>24580764 >>24581942 >>24582422 >>24585067
Why were so many famous writers antisemitic?
Authors of the New Testament - Antisemitic
Shakespeare - Antisemitic
Dostoyevsky - Antisemitic
Céline - Antisemitic
Voltaire - Antisemitic
Wagner - Antisemitic
Baudelaire - Antisemitic
Dickens - Antisemitic
Kant - Antisemitic
Shaw - Antisemitic
Hamsun - Antisemitic
Chesterton - Antisemitic
Pound - Antisemitic
Eliot - Antisemitic
Hemingway - Antisemitic
Dahl - Antisemitic
Quevedo - Antisemitic
Browne - Antisemitic
Luther - Antisemitic
Highsmith - Antisemitic
Marlowe - Antisemitic
Boccaccio - Antisemitic
Solzhenitsyn - Antisemitic
Hume - Antisemitic
Anonymous No.24578925 [Report]
They were all intelligent people that could easily connect the dots. Simple as.
Anonymous No.24578938 [Report] >>24579006 >>24579279 >>24580822 >>24583269
>>24578917 (OP)
Why were so many famous writers faggots?
>Authors of the New Testament
Selfhatingfaggots.
>Shakespeare
Halffaggot.
>Dostoevsky
Repressedfaggot.
>Celine
Faggot.
>Voltaire
Frenchfaggot.
>Baudelaire
Superfrenchfaggot.
>Dickens
Faggot.
>Kant
Would've been a faggot if he knew what faggotry was.
>Shaw
Commiefaggot.
>Hamsun
Faggot.
>Chesterton
Fatfaggot.
>Pound
Would've been a faggot if he knew what faggotry was.
>Eliot
Faggot.
>Hemingway
Transvestitefaggot.
>Dahl
Weirdfaggot.
>Quevedo
Faggot.
>Browne
Urnfaggot.
>Luther
Faggot.
>Highsmith
Lesbian. Can't be a faggot because a faggot has to be a man but if she was a man she'd be a faggot.
>Marlowe
Jealousfaggot.
>Boccaccio
Italian. Also a faggot.
>Solzhenitsyn
Prisonfaggot.
>Hume
Fatfaggot.
Anonymous No.24578968 [Report]
>>24578917 (OP)
Because it’s obvious that the jews are evil.
Anonymous No.24578969 [Report]
>>24578917 (OP)

They were not antisemitic, at all! real antisemitism is just ignoring the jews, as if they were irrelevant, by writing about them all the time, they have given them grand importance and mythos!
Anonymous No.24578977 [Report] >>24579001 >>24579002 >>24579216
>>24578917 (OP)
Why did they all die while Israel still exists and owns the USA and Europe? Really makes you think.
Anonymous No.24578999 [Report]
>start with shakespear's sonnets
>"HAVE WHITE BABIES YOU ROASTIE WHORE"
Is this the forgotten power of the Englishman?
Anonymous No.24579001 [Report]
>>24578977
why were 600 gorillion jews killed in the holocaust if they were so strong? checkmate, jew.
Anonymous No.24579002 [Report] >>24579011
>>24578977
If Israel owns the US and Europe they are rapidly engineering a situation in which there will be nobody left to protect them from getting nuked
Anonymous No.24579006 [Report]
>>24578938
Careful with those slurs Shlomo.
Anonymous No.24579011 [Report]
>>24579002
2 more weeks?
Anonymous No.24579024 [Report] >>24579028 >>24579058 >>24579168 >>24579248 >>24579279 >>24580633
>>24578917 (OP)
Tolkien- philosemitic
Tolstoy- philosemitic
Sir Walter Scott- philosemitic
Lovecraft- was antisemitic but repented and married a Jew
Chesterton -was antisemitic but repented and married a Jew
Sir Arthur Canon doyle- philosemitic to the extreme, fought to free Jewish prisoners who had been wrongly accused of crimes
Dickens- asked forgiveness of Jewish people for portraying them the way he did because he decided he was punching down
Mary Evans/George Elio- philosemitic
Anonymous No.24579028 [Report]
>>24579024
Meant C.S Lewis instead of Chesterton but Chesterton also regretted his earlier antisemitism
Anonymous No.24579058 [Report] >>24580633
>>24579024
Emile Zola should be added to the list
Anonymous No.24579168 [Report]
>>24579024
Dickens was attacked by the Jewish bankster and feigned an apology
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliza_Davis_(letter_writer)
> Eliza Davis, whose husband had purchased the lease on Dickens's home in 1860 when he had put it up for sale,[1] wrote to Dickens in 1863,[1] protesting at his portrayal of Fagin, arguing that he had "encouraged a vile prejudice against the despised Hebrew",[2][8] and that he had done a great wrong to the Jewish people.
Anonymous No.24579177 [Report] >>24583324
>Ivan Turgenev's brain was found to be one of the largest on record, weighing 2,012 g (4 lb 7 oz).[11]
>Turgenev was known for his pejorative descriptions of Jews, for example in his story "The Jew" (1847).
Anonymous No.24579186 [Report]
>>24578917 (OP)
>Authors of the New Testament - Antisemitic
By this standard you may as well include the authors of the OT also. Basically a big log of the Jews fucking up
Anonymous No.24579209 [Report] >>24579253
I never understood why Dickens gave Fagin a name at all
He calls him the "Jew" throughout
Anonymous No.24579216 [Report] >>24579264
>>24578977
Do people really think that because a place got named israel on the map like 70 years ago that it’s the same israel from the Bible? Surely not.. right?
Anonymous No.24579248 [Report] >>24579261
>>24579024
>bunch of genreslop
Bravo
Anonymous No.24579253 [Report] >>24579266
>>24579209
lol
Anonymous No.24579261 [Report]
>>24579248
>Middlemarch
>Le beit humaine
>genre
My /lit/ prof would sob
Anonymous No.24579264 [Report] >>24579271 >>24579289
>>24579216
Christians do.
See: Ted Cruz and evangelicals
https://erlc.com/policy-content/israel/
Anonymous No.24579266 [Report]
>>24579253
It's a common problem with White dudes; they just call their Eastern characters by their race instead of by a name. Read an 1800s books and you see funny shit like "The Jew" "the Arab" and "The Persian and "the China woman"
Anonymous No.24579267 [Report] >>24579274 >>24579279 >>24585030
>>24578917 (OP)
Christianity, more than anything.
Obviously they make significant exceptions. Jews litter history with important works.

Spinoza
Marx
Husserl
Benjamin
Freud

Don't forget the slew of Jewish scientists leading up to WWII... Einstein, Bohr, Oppenheimer.

There is no reason to disown the Jew. Especially the German Jew, ironically. Nietzsche talks about this.
Anonymous No.24579271 [Report]
>>24579264
Ted is right; if Europe kicks the Muslim migrants out in 500 years I think it would also be Europe again
Anonymous No.24579274 [Report] >>24582019
>>24579267
Countries that follow neither Christianity nor Islam have little anti-semitism
Anonymous No.24579279 [Report] >>24579300 >>24582407
>>24578938
>i said it so it‘s true

>>>24579024
Only good author is Lovecraft and you got the order wrong (absentmindedly married a jew and left on seeing the truth)

>>24579267
Only good one is Spinoza. I‘ll give you him.
Anonymous No.24579289 [Report]
>>24579264
Evangelicals*, not all Christians.
Anonymous No.24579300 [Report]
>>24579279
Tolstoy is pretty universally considered good even by literary snobs
Anonymous No.24580071 [Report]
>>24578917 (OP)
Shakespeare's Shylock is significantly more sympathetic than previous portrayals of the same character. It's why they still teach both readings at drama schools.
Anonymous No.24580633 [Report] >>24580645
>>24579024
>>24579058
Proust as well, no?
Anonymous No.24580645 [Report] >>24580652
>>24580633
He was antisemitic.
Anonymous No.24580652 [Report] >>24580666 >>24580841
>>24580645
>Proust was an early believer in the innocence of Dreyfus
Hmm, I don't know about that.
Anonymous No.24580666 [Report] >>24580823
>>24580652
>Proust referred to Zionists as “Sodomites” and, more significantly, he described many of his Jewish characters using anti-Semitic stereotypes
Anonymous No.24580764 [Report] >>24585266
>>24578917 (OP)
Most of these people never hated Jews. They criticized Jews sometimes, or they regarded Jews as a separate people from the native Christians of their own countries, or they used Jewish stereotypes in their writings, but most of them did not regard themselves as antisemites or feel a racial hatred toward Jews. They're only regarded as such today because it's practically impossible to have an honest or nuanced discussion about Jews in the current year.
Anonymous No.24580822 [Report]
>>24578938
oy vey
Anonymous No.24580823 [Report]
>>24580666
>Proust referred to Zionists as “Sodomites”
Alright, so he was anti-Zionist. It's not the same thing. A lot of assimilated European Jews at the time were skeptical or hostile toward Zionism, it was a political dispute, and not necessarily rooted in hatred of Jews.
>he described many of his Jewish characters using anti-Semitic stereotypes
Yeah, and this goes on to explain how Swann is supposedly one of these stereotypes, even though he's one of the more nuanced and sympathetic characters in the entire novel series.

Besides, all of this is from "jewishpress.com" with no citations. Proust was, at best, a loose "self-hating Jew", meaning he mostly had a complex relationship with his own identity, but outright antisemitic he was not.
Anonymous No.24580841 [Report]
>>24580652
You clearly didn't read In Search of Lost Time where he explicitly refers to it.
Anonymous No.24581942 [Report]
>>24578917 (OP)
Who cares? Jews are faggots and deserve scorn wherever they go.
Anonymous No.24582019 [Report]
>>24579274
check out Thailand lmao
Anonymous No.24582407 [Report]
>>24579279
I will not stand for this Lovecraft slander- he and Sonia were very happy together but he couldn't support the both of them and she moved to a different city for work, promising they would live together once he made it big.

Sadly, nothing he wrote was ever commercially successful during his lifetime and they divorced after several years apart. Fun facts- she was a big Weird Tales/horror fan and they met at a convention, she was 40 and he was 33 when they married, and in a letter to one of her friends she said that Howard was very good in bed.
Anonymous No.24582422 [Report]
>>24578917 (OP)
Eliot was an anti-Semite;
Schopenhauer was one too;
Richard Strauss and Richard Wagner,
Santayana, Clemenceau,

Henry Ford, Mohammed also,
Juvenal, Roy Campbell, Kant,
H.L. Mencken, Seneca,
Celine, and Henri Montherlant;

Schwarzkopf, Flagstad, Paul de Man,
Hemingway and Wyndham Lewis,
Jonathan Edwards, Andre Gide,
St. Ambrose (and Lindburgh too was)

Shaw, Aquinas, Whistler, Chekhov,
Philip Larkin, ‘Chinese’ Gordon,
Arnold Toynbee, Pound, Karl Barth,
William Shakespeare, Chaucer, Wharton;

Henry James, Mussorgsky, Fichte,
Henry Adams, Gottfried Benn,
St. Jerome and St. Augustine,
Tacitus, Quintilian;

Queen Victoria and Treischke,
Dreiser, Pushkin, Robert Lowell,
e.e. cummmings, Bismarck, Belloc,
H.G. Wells and Roald Dahl;

Marcion and Simone Weil,
Heidegger; Drieu La Rochelle,
Leni Reifenstahl and Luther,
Jean Cocteau; Colette as well;

Julian Assange, Walt Disney,
Dr. Seuss, Coco Chanel;
Winston Churchill, Solzhenitsyn,
Diderot, Drumont, Ravel,

Weininger, Schmitt, Andrew Anglin,
Bobby Fischer, Jung and Belov,
Orwell, Calvin, al-Farabi,
Paul, Peter and Piuses I through XII.

Dostoyevsky, Wolfe, Erasmus,
Ramses, St. John, Gyp, Ernst Rohm,
Igor Stravinsky and Knut Hamsun,
Dickens, Degrelle, Degas.

Shalom.
Anonymous No.24583269 [Report]
>>24578938
> tfw wagner is not included in the faggot list
good job anon ykb
Anonymous No.24583324 [Report]
>>24579177
Truly based.
Anonymous No.24585024 [Report]
People have been ingrouping and outgrouping since the beginning of humanity. Its not too surprising that people were xenophobic about someone practicing another religion.
Anonymous No.24585030 [Report]
>>24579267
Wasnt Marx raised Christian?
Anonymous No.24585067 [Report] >>24585073
>>24578917 (OP)
Christianity plus the fact that Jews were nomadic plus the fact that Jews are genetically superior in terms of IQ etc so they were Europe's rulers despite being outnumbered leading to resentment kind of how like the Blacks in south Africa hated the Whites because the whites ruled them even though they were a minority.
Anonymous No.24585073 [Report] >>24585079 >>24585301
>>24585067
>plus the fact that Jews are genetically superior in terms of IQ
this meme again lol
Anonymous No.24585079 [Report] >>24585087
>>24585073
Yeah yeah we know it's because they be the devil that they're successful
Anonymous No.24585087 [Report] >>24585105
>>24585079
>complains about reductionism
>resorts to the most blase meme tier argument for the success of the jews (muh iq)
Anonymous No.24585105 [Report] >>24585116 >>24585124
>>24585087
Iq is shorthand, they're just genetically better than non jew/Christian Europeans (I say this as an impartial non jew European)
Anonymous No.24585116 [Report] >>24585130
>>24585105
>they're just genetically better than non jew/Christian Europeans
ashkenazi jews (those are the ones you're referring to when you talk about IQ) are all prone to life-threatening diseases such as tay-sachs lol.
"genetically superior" LMFAO
Anonymous No.24585124 [Report]
>>24585105
IQ is the reductionism to make this assertion fit because it takes math and verbal dexterity into account without any appreciation of beauty or vivacity.
Anonymous No.24585130 [Report] >>24585144
>>24585116
God you're so annoying I obviously meant superior in terms of culture not something meaningless like health. I would rather die a 30 year old genius than a 90 year old mediocrity. (That's why I smoke)
Anonymous No.24585144 [Report] >>24585153
>>24585130
>they're superior to europeans because they have superior genes
>except for the fact they're inbred and dysgenic as shit because they're obsessed with trying to hyper-optimize for iq/mechanistic brain suited for input-output
>ackshaully, i meant culture
Anonymous No.24585153 [Report] >>24585160
>>24585144
Fuck me
I meant their genetics cause them to be culturally superior
I don't give a shit about health
If you do, then yeah they're inferior in your model. Superior and inferior are subjective terms. I think they're superior. And reality kind of agrees with me given how much success and power they have. But that's neither here nor there.
This is like when you ask AI something and have to clarify your meaning 10 tomes before it understands
Anonymous No.24585160 [Report] >>24585166
>>24585153
you realize i'm criticizing the culture for enabling this behavior, right?
Anonymous No.24585166 [Report] >>24585167 >>24585180
>>24585160
You're criticising their culture on 4chan, they made chatgpt and Google, you are not the same
Anonymous No.24585167 [Report] >>24585174
>>24585166
hope your brain disease is long and painful.
Anonymous No.24585174 [Report]
>>24585167
I'm not Jewish unfortunately
Anonymous No.24585180 [Report] >>24585212
>>24585166
Small works of quality versus giant piles of shit. Gentileanon wins again.
Anonymous No.24585212 [Report]
>>24585180
>aw shucks yessum these darn jews with their fancy shmancy AI and internit, they don't know an honest day's work shovellin' cow shit like my grandpappy and his granpappy befo' heem
Anonymous No.24585266 [Report]
>>24580764
Anonymous No.24585301 [Report]
>>24585073
I think it’s true particularly for Ashkenazis. Even if you resent them. Other Jews like the Sephardic and Mizrahi Jews, they don’t have this higher average IQ, and in fact even a little lower than average in various studies (like 92-97). You can hate Ashkenazi Jews but it still stands that they can be impressively over-represented in fields like as doctors, dentists, lawyers, in college admissions, media, banking and finance, even as Nobel prize winners, etc.

You could resent this as nepotism but even then i suspect there’d have to be some element of higher-than-average intelligence here, or at minimum a culture that encourages literacy, scholarship, intellectual matters and the like, for them to even pick these fields to want to worm their way into in the first place.

Keep in mind this isn’t a very popular politically correct view pushed in the MSM, even though it seems to be philosemitic. Mainstream normie journalists, psychologists, biologists and the like have typically attacked it and talked about fears it could play into anti-Jewish stereotypes, or scientific racism in general, by suggesting any one racial group could higher average IQs from genetic reasons, when/if it shows up in th mainstream or some op-ed or article or piece of pop-science writing,