Thread 24582306

Why are physical books so much more soulful than ebooks?

>>24582325
Show me one single scroll that is easily available to read.

>>24582306 (OP)
Everything on the internet is subject to ownership and the law of contracts, even contracts we have no agency in. Truly to use the medium is to sell a part of your soul; for what? Might be nothing, everything, anything, but certainly it is no thing.

Pseuds who say this faggy shit always have a mediocre library

>>24582331
the elder scrolls are pretty widely available

because you are a psued who reads for appearences.

>>24582891
I read physical books at my home where nobody sees me, how do I read for appearances?

>>24582563
Not a real scroll.

You like books, you don't like their content.

There's a very nice tactility to each word having a definite position in space. Sticks to the memory better. Other than that, ebooks tend to have worse editing and more typos and missing punctuation (blame my piracy habits.)

I still think it's mostly a sense of "old is better."

>>24583215
Yes, because I realize a book is more than the information contained in it.

>>24582306 (OP)
they aren't; you just prefer the physical form, which is based
content-wise, they obviously don't change

>>24583252
Soul is not only related to content, also to form.

>>24582306 (OP)
OBJECTS ACCUMULATE CONCIOUSNESS OVER TIME

>>24583204
> I read physical books at my home where nobody sees me, how do I read for appearances?
And then you go online to brag about it to make sure someone knows.

>>24583264
I mean, I like physical books too, but it's not like the content changes just because I'm reading a literal antique from the 1500's or a digitized version on a screen. I like having the former in my bookshelf, but I will mostly read it in the way of the latter.

>>24583270
Where did I do that exactly?

>>24583274
I didn’t claim the content changes, but as I said before books are more than its content.

>>24583249
it really isnt

>>24583415
>Benjamin quotes the well-known Latin saying Habent sua fata libelli (books have their fate). For Benjamin, a book has a fate insofar as it is a thing, a possession. It carries material marks that give it a history. An e-book is not a thing, but information; it has an altogether different status of being. Even if we have it at our disposal, it is not a possession. It is something to which we have access. An e-book reduces a book to informational value. The book has no age, place, craft or owner. It lacks the auratic distance from which an individual fate could speak to us. Fate has no place in the digital order. Information has neither a physiognomy nor a fate, and it does not allow for the formation of intense ties. One cannot have, for instance, a personal copy [Handexemplar] of an e-book. A personal copy of a book is given its unmistakeable face, its physiognomy, by the hand of the owner. E-books are faceless and without history. They may be read without the use of the hands. There is a tactile element in the turning of a book’s pages that is constitutive of every relationship. Without bodily touch, no ties can emerge.

>>24583289
You made this post for the sake of validation whether you realize it or not.

>>24583420
Sure, but everyone wants validation. It's still different from alleged bragging about reading physical books.

>>24583424
Das rite, I'm also a pseud btw

>>24582306 (OP)
You can't call physical books soulful unless you bind books yourself

>>24582306 (OP)
Because big paper has tricked you.

>>24582331
The first five books of the Old Testament, in the original language.

>>24582306 (OP)
because only books 'fit' in your tiny brain.

(You) have primitive understanding of the the paper and ink that make up a book. You might even have an idea about how to make one, how to work fibers the right way, where to find adhesive in a forest, or a blue or black pigment.

But (You) are unable to grasp how an ebook is made, let alone how it works. The simple working of a finger-tap eludes you. From the touchscreen raising the interrupt, the context switches, the cache lines getting replaced, the CPU executing the micro-ops, the flip flops holding on to the bits throughout the pipeline, bytes that make up the words getting loaded in the right places, the graphics pipeline setting display memory to output the next page. And the final interminable refresh of the e-ink display -- the one thing you might attempt to comprehend.

You soul only goes so deep and I pray that you one day understand this and that I may take in the working of the transistor and what lies beneath it.

>>24582306 (OP)
>>24582325
>he doesn't have books read to him

>>24585052
discord is the closest thing you can get today, similar atmosphere except with some guards of the tyrant in the background

>>24585065
Or... You could do audiobooks

>>24583419
Complete pseud nonsense, your precious physical book is one of a million copies that got shit out by an automated printing press in Yemen to maximize cost effectiveness. It has no soul or identity. Unless you exclusively read hand-made, leather-bound art pieces, in which case you probably have better things to do than argue on 4chan about it.
By the same logic, my ereader is a physical, crafter object, and is just as soulful of a medium to read on.

>>24585114
Not the same as being engaged in a discussion of depth and value, perhaps the third party listener experience. I do like audio books.