>itt: authors you can only understand if you’re white

I'm non-white, I own the La Pléiade edition but I've only managed to read Sac au dos so far because his language can be tiring and I have a lot of easier French authors to read first

Also who are /lit/'s favourite decadent authors? What are your favourite works?

>>24583146 (OP)

>>24583146 (OP)
I'll say this much

I'm Mexican, heavy into German philosophy - pretty much everyone from Leibniz to Husserl. Wrote thesis on Kant and Husserl.

I really thought I had an affinity with 19th century Germany. And I'll tell you - I did not understand Faust one bit.

I was also into Jung, who spoke of how naturally resonant Faust was with all Germans. I was deeply disappointed. To some extent I'm sure it helps to have prior awareness of the folk tale. But it is also supposed to mean something about modernity - "the Faustian Age," right?

The prose was nice but the whole time I was just thinking that this guy's an asshole and his motives are ridiculous. You sold your soul to seduce a woman? Of all the things

So I'm not German. But we can gatekeep the genre of magical realism I suppose - that remains strangely inaccessible to the lighter shades

>>24583225
also don't correct me I know the woman came into the picture following the deal - just saying it was all the deal amounted to

what, is it irony or something? ultimate power focused on the basest of things

>>24583225
care to have a word for this guy >>24583201

>>24583231
he's a Mexican. he wouldn't get it.

>>24583225
>I'm Mexican.

lol. you have my condolences.

>>24583237
I mean have you written a thesis on Kant and Husserl?

>>24583225
>playing into /pol/ games
retard

>>24583238
no but I have a similar background to Kant, Hegel, Schop, and so on if you know what I mean.

>>24583146 (OP)
any Germanic author from the last millennium suffices

>>24583260
they're popular all over the world and obviously understood

>>24583272
popular, sure, for various reasons
understood, well, that's a different issue
people understand the works in terms of what they make of the translations they're reading and where they come from
and this just generally applies to literature
you won't 'get' works by an author of a given people who wrote for said people if you're not part of said people

German philosophy is inherently wrong, it only took traction because English speakers can't comprehend anything beyond their language branch, hence, the schism

>>24583278
if that's the case, then 'said people' includes the audience of the author's time. modern people won't truly get it either because they're not from the period. they had to be there.

>>24583292
to a degree, yes, but what I'm getting at is that different cultures are different, and things resonate differently between them
you read something that seems super descriptive and interesting to you, but to the author's fellow countrymen is mundane and everyday

>>24583306
Sure, but that's a different argument. it went from racial (OP) to ethnic (guy who said 'Germanic') to cultural/nationalist (you). German philosophers are misunderstood even by their own countrymen sometimes, so the idea that some random guy in Australian can automatically understand them is silly.

>>24583314
Australia*

>>24583162
>because his language can be tiring and I have a lot of easier French authors to read first
Op’s point exactly. I was reading Huysmans dans le texte at age 14.

I’d pick Maurice Scève personally. Non-whites will never get it.

>>24583338
non-french will never get it, more like.

>>24583344
>non-french will never get it
… je suis Québécois.

>>24583146 (OP)
Marx. Brown socialists just don't get it.

>>24583353
the famous non-french québécois lmao you grew up speaking french and you're ethnically french

>>24583168
Scriabin. Piano Sonata No. 9 "Black Mass".
Unless we're talking strictly about literature, in which case the answer is none, because decadent literature doesn't interest me.

>>24583357
Marx was brown, though.

>>24583225
Dude stop being a pickme these white racists will never accept you or think you're based if you debase yourself before them. Their whole ideology relies on having an inferior to otherise to the point they'll even turn on other whites to satisfy that urge pic related.

ITP: Works you can only understand if you're Oriental

From what I have seen and read and from my personal experience, white people don't get H.P Lovecraft as much as third worlders and browns do. Which is quite ironic innit. Here's a comparison between a take I heard from a britishman and a brown chilean lady
>It's cosmic horror to feel so small and worthless in such a world with giant monsters and ancient artifacts, some lovecraft's stories are an allegory for capital and the alienation we get from it
>It's a stupid search for man to try and explain everything with science and it's understanding. Irrationality and the mystic seeps its way through every corner and little hole of reality in our day to day lives and the moment you start paying attention to it or searching for it you go mad. Lovecraft's stories come from finding the supernatural not in grandiose form with trumpets and music but from finding yourself clouded in very mundane and otherwise normal scenarios in an inhenrently spiritually driven world

>>24583361
francophone

You’re truly a dimwit. Probably a plebscarepod poster.

>>24583146 (OP)
Heidegger

>>24583201
Came here to say exactly this. Others have to filter Hegel through Marx if they ever want to come close to Hegel himself.

>>24583565
Hegel really deserves a Rick and Morty copypasta but I can't be bothered making one right now.

>>24583390
I actually don't give a shit
Why would I feel inferior to these people lol

Truly, I couldn't have a lower opinion of this board. There are no stakes

No I just felt modest for a moment, and do genuinely wonder if there is such a thing as being limited by race in terms of what cultural works you're able to connect with. Maybe you do have to be German to connect with Faust. I'm convinced that many people are pretending to have resonated with it. "Faustian" references are common but they're pretty superficial.

I did connect with Homer. Maybe Mediterranean counts as like a step closer to Spain or something

>>24583201
I for sure know more Hegel than you, let's throw down

>>24583231
Yeah I've read Hegel what's up

>>24584476
German isn't race. You don't even understand the ideology you're feeding.

>>24584500
ok reread the post while imagining it swapped out for the appropriate word