>Shakespeare is so much larger than any other poet, any other writer. Larger than Plato, infinitely larger than Freud. You’d have to take the whole of the Bible together to get any representation of consciousness as wide as Shakespeare’s

>>24608811 (OP)
Does.he give any argumet? Plato was much more influential to Philosophy than Shakespeare, who wasn't really read outside of England before the 19th century.

Did Shakespeare even invent any literary device or element?

>>24609941
>Did Shakespeare even invent any literary device or element?
He invented the human

>>24608811 (OP)
>infinitely larger than Freud
as if that was even a question

>>24610013
I thank Shakespeare every day for inventing me and my family :D

>>24608811 (OP)
Bloom was one of the critics of all time.

harold bloom was part of the secret cult that worshiped books. it's written all over his face.

>btw Shakespeare only makes sense in YIDDISH played BY JEWS
what was his problem?

>>24608811 (OP)
No, Homer, Aeschylus and Dante are his equals. Also, Bloom is confusing a diversity of individual dramatic consciousnesses with one singular consciousness of the poet, which is not quite accurate, since Shakespeare's characters are so real that the distinguishing line between poet and reality breaks down and you can no longer really attribute those characters to a poetic 'consciousness', although of course they would not have been possible without a poetic consciousness of the highest genius.

>>24609941
>who wasn't really read outside of England before the 19th century.
He was widely read in Europe in the 18th century. Just see Voltaire's and Goethe's response to him.

>>24608811 (OP)
It's amazing how English language thinkers are always the ones to discern that English language thought is the most important

>>24611352
Nah, bardolatry is a pan-European phenomena, especially prevalent in Germany.

>>24608811 (OP)
I think Homer offered a more compelling m panorama of human experience than Shakespeare.

>>24608811 (OP)
It's the same retard telling you Shakespeare only makes sense in Yiddish.
As for the question, no. The bardolatry is one of the reasons for the retardation of literature studies in England.

>>24608811 (OP)
I get what he means. Shakes breadth, depth, and eloquence of human character is unmatched. He's the GOAT.

>>24611370
>The bardolatry is one of the reasons for the retardation of literature studies in England.
That's a ridiculously excessive assessment.

>>24611379
Certainly much less excessive than the bardolatry.

>>24611362
I mean across fields - analytic philosophers until recently continued to think that they were the definitive movement of philosophy. Likewise, Americans in particular evaluate things mainly on the basis of what is local to them.

Agatha Christie is more talented and better English writer than Shakespeare, but we are not ready to have that conversation.

>>24611366
It's too magical.

>>24611761
No, we're not because Christie is nowhere fucking near Shakespeare

Prolific! And really good! He’s probably right.

>>24612600
I find an interesting thread about Shakespeare, read the discussion, then I see this image and all I can think about now is how pretty her feet must be.

>>24612290
There's just something about the magical that can pierce deeper than a humanistic fiction tale. That's why mythology always involves monsters and magic and stuff.

>>24611348
>he was well read in europe
>just see these two literati who mentioned him
Wow one thing totally follows from the other. This board is surely no full of subhuman retards.
>>24609941
Shakespeare to this day is not influential. He is no read in languages other than English nearly as much as writers such as Coelho and Exupéry, Nabokov and Cervantes.
Shakespeare's doesn't approach that of the Russians Dostoyevsky and Tolstoy. The one book of the former that global people can think of is Hamlet, which is copied from a French writer François de Belleforest who himself took the plot from a Danish saga. Meanwhile, Crime and Punishment, Karamazov Brothers, The Idiot, Anna Karenina, War and Peace are immediately recalled by people of the whole world. Allighieri is fundamental for world literature, Shakespeare isn't.
Shakespeare is, despite all of the anglxsphere shilling, not that important. He is in fact overshadowed by other writers of his own country, both in true popularity (not some pseudo-intellectual maskerading of it) as well as in originality.
>Did Shakespeare even invent any literary device or element?
Retards claim he invented a thousand or so words. Most of those he most obviously didn't for anyone who isn't a monolingual idiot — for some of them perhaps he was the first one to adopt them from French. If you look up "Words invented by Shakespeare" on Google you will laugh out loud and then shit yourself if you are Latin (or knows one of the languages). Some of those he did invent, but out of them, many are dumb compositions of two pre-existing words.
Case in point:
>A spokesperson for the OED said it had an “ongoing full-scale revision programme” currently under way, which is seeing every word in the dictionary reviewed “to improve the accuracy of definitions, derivations, pronunciations, and the historical quotations … A significant part of the work is new research, drawing on a vast array of resources and digital archives. These reveal a wealth of evidence unseen by the dictionary’s original editors (who from the outset accepted any kind of text, literary or not, as valid evidence),” said the spokesperson. “As part of the process, we have uncovered earlier evidence for many words and phrases previously attributed to Shakespeare.”

Do you ever find yourself cheekily writing/texting Elizabethan English in iambic pentameter?

>>24613806
You are insecurely seething over the legacy of a literary immortal that you have no agency to affect—the unironic /lit/ midwit in a nutshell.

>>24611404
>analytic philosophers until recently continued to think that they were the definitive movement of philosophy
Ironic, because analytic philosophy in the past 50 years, moving away from its German roots in Carnap and Frege, has completely degenerated into rediscovering old philosophical problems and repackaging them into goofy thought experiments that, due to their lack of generality, don't hold nearly the same weight.
Has there been a single true philosopher that spoke English as a mother tongue? Perhaps it is just not possible.
>inb4 Locke
The Sam Harris of 17th century.

>>24613816
The lack of arguments totally doesn't show that the accusation of "seething" isn't a sad projection.
You don't need to make something part of your identity just because your middle school teacher forced you to read it, you know? Especially when you didn't actually read it — you don't remember it.

>>24613806
You’re completely right fyi. You do a good job of explaining how he’s overrated without going overboard and being a midwit contrarian.
It used to be common knowledge that Milton was England’s greatest poet, at some point it shifted in favor of Shakespeare and then ramped wildly out of control. Now suddenly nobody can even touch Shakespeare. In reality Milton is still superior.

>>24613806
Absolute cope esl bullshit.

>>24613806
This is like Scaruffi with The Beatles lmao

>>24613839
Scaruffi considers Shakespere the GOAT also. He's right about the beatles tho.

>>24613845
>He's right about the beatles tho.
No, he isn't. He copes and seethes impotently just like that guy.

>>24613824
I'm not going to spend hours inconsequentially arguing with a nobody. I greatly admire all of the authors you listed and believe Shakespeare is among their class, if not superior.
I'm reading The Tempest right now; a handful of other plays recently, too. Shakespeare is brilliant in his thematic ambition, human insights, rhetorical and poetic construction.
If you truly feel you have something material to say, publish an enduring article instead of spitting into the feces-ridden winds of this shithole. But you don't—your opinion would be laughed out of the room by any serious academic.

>>24613832
>In reality Milton is still superior
Way to oust yourself

>>24613839
I don't know who Scaruffi is (and neither does 99% of the globe), and I always thought the Beattles were shit. Beattles for me are along with Rolling Stones the paragons of the cacophonic, dysphonic orgy of instruments and vocals that are modern "bands". Almost all rock songs (like pop and rap) are gimmicky because you "enjoy" them for 30–60 times and after that you get "tired" of them. That is because they don't sound good, and the gimmick that carried them got old; truly good songs are enjoyable no matter how many times you listen to it.
But I won't credit the Beattles with "inventing" bands, that much would be ridiculous, like idiots crediting Shakespeare with words that had been used in Spanish and French for hundreds of years by that point.

>>24613858
I didn't ask for more coping and seething, pal. Your Shakespeare post was enough.

>>24613852
Way to not even use that word correctly

>>24613850
>is among their class, if not superior.
Totally not hiding your bias there, middle school cuck.
>>24613850
>publish an enduring article instead of spitting into the feces-ridden winds of this shithole
As opposed to the places I would publish the articles, Guardian and NYT, which are supposedly not shitholes? In the cesspit of 4chan I have met 3 or 4 intelligent people out of 1000. The modern press boast 0 out of 1000.

>>24608811 (OP)
>Shakespeare is so much larger than any other poet, any other writer. Larger than Plato
Plato hated poets though

>>24613849
He does maybe downplay them a bit too much. But he's right that rock doesn't have a critical canon and just measures by rolling stone industry record sales and radio play bullshit. The Beatles are absolutely an overrated pop culture product.

Led Zeppelin mogs

>>24613861
>le cope and le seethe
It isn't 2021 anymore, telegram tourist
>>24613852
>oust
Brutal

>>24613866
Nobody here has read Plato anon, you are arguing with a p-zombie.

>>24613872
>It isn't 2021 anymore
Yet Shakespeare seething is forever. Sucks to be filtered.

>>24613865
You're entitled to your opinion, anon. Congratulations on being unable to appreciate Shakespeare. I'm sure you'll move the world with that.

>>24613858
Music was never meant to be listened to recorded. It was meant to be a live performance, a showcase of virtuosity, a conflux of individual performance and group cooperation, with improvised variations or improvements that make each performance, even of the same song, a unique experience. Real acoustics beat sterile studio slop every time.
The Beatles didn't ruin music, records did.

>>24613806
You don’t belong on this board, Juan. Please go larp as intelligent somewhere else.

>>24613881
You’re overreacting. He never said he can’t appreciate Shakespeare, just that Shakespeare isn’t head and shoulders above everyone else in world literature the way Anglosphere bardolators (like Bloom) claim. You can still appreciate he’s ONE of the greatest of all time without making him the undisputed GOAT.

>>24613832
Paradise Lost is way more meaningful for world literature than Hamlet or Othello. Milton, despite his flaws, is patrician, Shakespeare is reddit.

>>24613806
Russians are airport tripe and word vomit. Shakespeare‘s influence on all of romanticism across Europe is beyond dispute.

>>24613806
You're clearly an ESL and the fact that you contrasted Shakespeare with a bunch of novelists shows you don't and probably can't understand what makes him a contender for GOAT.

>>24613888
Lear and Hamlet unironically surpass Paradise Lost.

>>24613887
That's not his claim. And you can tell he's never done a deep dive into Shakespeare's work based on his criticisms. It's just a random seething anglophobe.

>>24613886
Sorry, Kyler, Trump's approval rate is as low as your lazy eye. Go drink the budlight in your fridge, reading isn't for your species.

>>24613894
*bops you on the head*

this thread is like that comic where the guy yells "I don't like thing!" and a fairy shows up and gives him a note that says "okay"

It's always some seething ESL (usually spanish) complaining about Shakespeare. At least the Germans knew what was up.

this french/spanish/brazilian nigga really said 4chan has more intelligent people out of a 1000 than any literary journal. oh to be 18 and not aware of how stupid you are. this reminds me of when i was 21 and told my honors english professor that i thought shakespeare was overrated and she just said you can think what you want but it won't change reality and stopped paying attention to me lmao

>>24613903
You completely failed to read me. Shakespeare is loved across the world (because he quite literally is the world’s poet) and I don’t give a fuck about politics. Stick to quora and reddit, Juan!

>>24613891
Nobody reads Hamlet like people read the Iliad or the Comedy. Those two works are quite literally age-defining1 pieces for Europe and thus the world. Shakespeare however is relevant in the sense that anglxs and deracinated cosmopolitans can reference him (but never quote beyond Hamlet3's opening) for reddit culture points.

1 – Go ask ChatGPT to explain that to you, as you likely don't know the historical context of them.

Why are there 3 bloom threads up at the moment

>>24613890
>Shakespeare‘s influence on all of romanticism across Europe is beyond dispute.
You don't know European history neither have you ever been to Europe.
Here is a stumper for you my dear yankee LARPer from Alabama: ancient marble statues weren't white, they were painted vividly.

>>24611366
Only post in the thread actually engaging with the subject. Not sure I agree, but Homer is just about the only other writer I can think of that comes close in that aspect.
>>24608811 (OP)
>so much larger
Larger is not better. It's not about the quality of writing, but the variety of themes and "representation of consciousness".

>>24613894
>Lear and Hamlet unironically surpass Paradise Lost.
Maybe if Hamlet wasn't copied from a French dude who took the story from a Danish dude.
>>24613925
>than any literary journal
The post quite clearly references the Guardian and NYT, not "literary journals" (if you even know that is). I would imagine that to be on a literature board you would first learn to read?
>>24613932
>Shakespeare is loved across the world (because he quite literally is the world’s poet)
Repeating it doesn't make it true, my inbred 90IQ israeli slave.

>>24613935
>Shakespeare however is relevant in the sense that anglxs and deracinated cosmopolitans can reference him (but never quote beyond Hamlet3's opening)
Nice job confirming you haven't even read it or were too retarded to even discern basic plot. Shakespeare is literally the best selling writer of all time, it's funny how one of your main arguments is factually untrue.

>>24613935
>but never quote beyond Hamlet3's opening
…who‘s there?

>>24613963
the fact you think neets on 4chan are on average smarter than nyt writers regardless of your personal values just confirms you are 18 and stupid. and that you can't read cuz the other guy didn't tell you to write for only the times or the guardian

this dumb yurocuck really thinks hamlet is the most/only quotable shakespeare opening when r3 exists lmao nigga WHAT you clearly ain't read the man foh

>>24613963
>bruh he copied those stories
And reinvented and expanded the characters and language beyond anything ever done prior, still continually influential and interpreted since.

>>24613881
>I'm sure you'll move the world with that.
The world is unmoved by Shakespeare, as the world isn't Reddit or your middle school, so I am not doing anything here but shattering the delusions of unaccomplished chauvinists who are seeing in their lifetime the degeneracy and inferiority of their nations bite them back on their arse.
People (and thus nations) who truly have a grounded self-worth don't spend their whole existence loftily talking of themselves, they in fact investigate the other peoples of the world. The Greeks did it, the Romans did it, the Persians, the Germans, the Italians, the Portuguese, the Russians. Guess who doesn't? >>24611352

>>24613980
He's referring to Hamlet's soliloquy about suicide. This is clearly a troll or someone incredibly uninformed about the subject of his criticism if he thinks that was the opening.
>>24613988
I honestly don't care, anon. I'm just here to laugh at you along with some of the other anons. No one finds you revelatory or meaningfully worth engaging with. You don't realize how ignorant you are despite the copious factual errors and sophistry in your "arguments."

>>24613966
None of that post had anything to do with Hamlet's plot but its presence in the international zeitgeist. Again, learn to read before shitting through your fingers on a literature board.
>>24613967
Nope, but sadly no one took the bait (not to their credit). You know what I was referencing.
>>24613973
>neets on 4chan are on average smarter than nyt writers
>on average
That was never stated in that post — the contrary could be assumed in fact. Again, none of you cucks are able to read properly, as this thread demonstrates. Do that first, before coming here.

>>24613898
>It's just a random seething anglophobe.
>weeh weeeh he is a wacist
Way to play the race card, snigger.

>>24614004
>0 out of 1000 modern media iz smart
>a handful of 4chinmen iz smart
>ackshually the contrary is assumed and 0 out of 1000 is smorter on avg
bruh u cant be older than 20. i cant do this anymore without feeling terrible about wasting time on you being retarded or pretending to be retarded

>>24614004
>You know what I was referencing.
I have absolutely no idea and am beginning to think you did not make a typo but are of the impression that Shakespeare wrote a history play called Hamlet III

>>24613882
While, if the button to end music records were presented to me, I would not press it, I can agree with your comment. Here is a post on the topic, from a while ago, that I found interesting.
>pic related
>>24613898
>It's just a random seething anglophobe.
Thanks, but everybody on 4chan is random. Welcome to the website.

To be or not to be
Living in the winter of our discontent
That is the shipwreck from which
We will ask the Welshman to answer our question

>>24614004
>i-it was bait! I'm not sperging out over something I didn't read or understand because that would sure be embarrassing!
>skims right over Shakespeare being the most or one of the most widely read writers in global literature of all time while continuing to insist on his lack of influence
Kek these are the "people" saying Shakespeare is overrated

>>24614042
Xe's clearly somebody who thought they were very smart, got lit up, and switched to shitposting to make it seem like it was a genius troll all along. I'm just hoping it's a physical teenager.

>>24613997
>This is clearly a troll
A common last-resort of idiots is, when no insult is found appropriate, call someone a "troll". Very facebook boomer-esque. Are you over 40 perhaps?
>>24613997
>I'm just here to laugh at you along with some of the other anons.
Words from someone who honestly doesn't care. Totally not seething right now and trying to come on top by feigning emotions you don't have right now.
>No one finds you revelatory or meaningfully worth engaging with.
Which is why I have received over 15 replies of pathetic seethe lacking in substance and thus in argument?
It is revelatory at least that nobody here has mentioned the writers I have in response to the very post, which would be pertinent. The reason why? Nobody here reads — and nobody on /fit/ lifts, nobody on /sp/ plays, and nobody on /sci/ knows what Kepler's third law is.

>>24614052
You've convinced us all of your genius in literature, athletics and science. Well done, /lit/ messiah!

>>24614017
>bruh u
Go back to tiktok, illiterate subhuman.
>4 out of 1000 4channers are smarter than the top NYT writers, therefore the average 4channer is in average smarter than the average NYT writer
Needless to say you are at least 5 years behind in mathematics to start to understand basic statistics, such as outliars and z-scores.

>>24614042
>being the most or one of the most widely read writers in global literature of all time while continuing to insist on his lack of influence
Again, middle schooler retard, repeating it doesn't make it true. Go here en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_books and see that the name Shakespeare doesn't appear a single time. Tolstoy does, Cervantes does (though not quantified), Alighieri does, Camus does.

>>24614062
>4 out of 1000 4channers are smarter than the top NYT writers, therefore the average 4channer is in average smarter than the average NYT writer
thats not what u said dogshit troll u said
>In the cesspit of 4chan I have met 3 or 4 intelligent people out of 1000. The modern press boast 0 out of 1000.
u are rly stupid and pathetic and ur trolljobs are a lot worse than ur blowjobs. bye bye shithead

>>24614071
Just give up, everyone can see for themselves you're a midwit that hasn't even read the material you're disparaging.

>>24614025
Hamlet 3 refers to Hamlet's third act, chimpanzee.
>>24614042
Whatever that means, illiterate.
>>24613997
>finds you revelatory or meaningfully worth engaging with
Thanks for the confession by the way. I also have a 6-pack and bench two plates (on incline) if it makes you feel more inadequate.
>>24614061
Thanks. If you want to reward me for my efforts, and thus better the world, you keep proceed with ritual suicide and free the planet from your horrible words and your horrible body1.

1 – Editor's note: that is a metaphor for the intellect and the genetics, respectively.

>>24614075
Why is there a literal 80IQ half-illiterate gorilla on this board? Jannies do your fucking job.
>>24614080
>impotent, raging cope
None of you limp-wrists read.

Imagine what this dingleberry looks like irl.

>>24614082
>It's a gymcel
Yeah this is starting to make more sense lol

Retard makes the same moronic, barbaric, gorilla claim for the 4th time >>24614042
Retard gets humiliatingly disproven by a simple Google search >>24614071
>>24614080
>j-j-just give up nigga
It would be very funny if it weren't very pathetic.

Nobody here reads, nobody is even able to read, as the thread has proven.

>>24614082
>Hamlet 3 refers to Hamlet's third act, chimpanzee.
Which opens on Claudius and Polonius scheming to find out what Hamlet is thinking

>>24614099
>Yeah this is starting to make more sense lol
What happened? I thought you faggy LARPers here loved le based marble statues. I guess only when you don't actually get off your chair to do it lol

>>24614071
Periodic reminder to all reading this that the sayings of Mao is the second most influential work of literature in history

Here is some fun history fact for you, my retarded, illiterate, 175cm friends.
(5'9 for the impaired)

>>24614124
1 - Not true
2 - If it were true, it would refute the idiot that >>24614071 is replying to anyway
Have all the peabrains here finally yielded or would you (plural (retarded ass language)) like more humiliation (French word)?

So this whole thread is an awful /pol/-slanted psyop by some retarded French faggot who can't stand the fact that nobody cares about his opinions or his modern country. As the (You)s wane and he becomes more desperate for continued attention, his intentions become more transparent.

It's just a sad life, honestly. I'm going back to my book.

>>24614095
Your sister is imagining it right now
>>24614037
4/10. Have proper meter next time, barbarian.
>>24614145
>so
More seethe from a faggot who said he would leave 5 posts ago. Is that what having a micropenis does to someone?
>I'm going back to my book
It is more than obvious you are unable to read, so your repertoire is inexistent.

>>24614131
>>24614100
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_fiction_authors
This is the last (you) you get because you're either a troll or genuinely this stupid and I'm not sure which is sadder

>>24614131
>Not true
I‘m not even sure how to address that you took that post at face value instead of as a commentary on applying modern printing figures as a weathervane for historic influence.

>>24614159
Source: a NYT post that is in fact about Agatha Christie.
Very reliable saar. It is telling that that article is available in 6 languages and if the information was accurate it would reflect in the correct https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_books article (available in 24 languages), which has no title in the ridiculous figure of 300 million, nevermind 4 billion.
>inb4: it is all of the writers' book
Learn mathematics if you can you fucking idiot, it still wouldn't add up.

>No definitive evidence suggests Shakespeare sold 4 billion books. The claim likely stems from a viral post on X, referencing a meme about Shakespeare's supposed book sales compared to modern authors. However, exact sales figures for Shakespeare’s works are impossible to verify due to the historical span (over 400 years) and lack of comprehensive records from his era. The number is likely an exaggeration or speculative estimate.

>>24614174
You replied to a post that is replying to the false claim that Shitespeare is the most read writer, it doesn't matter.
>weathervane
There is a space inbetween, midwit.

What went wrong in OP's life to make him so committed to such a retarded and ridiculous troll for 6 hours? I doubt Tolstoy, Borges, Dante, etc. would be impressed by his base character and complete lack of virtue. Hopefully he gets the psychiatric help he needs to reduce bile and bitterness.

>>24614185
He said "most or one of" and "of all time."

>>24614204
It doesn't matter, it doesn't add up, learn math, faggot.
>niggas actually so stupid and illiterate they didnt even fall for the bait
pic related

>>24611348
Aeschylus is incredibly dull. Sophocles and Euripides are fun because they’re structured like modern movies with people interacting and doing stuff. Aeschylus is two people in a room together while the chorus tells you what happened, what’s going to happen and what you must think about it.

>>24614203
who gives a fuck about borges, retard. he's an overrated mediocrity.

>>24614213
And Shitespeare is still naturally inferior to all of those.

>>24614232
Yeah, it isn’t a contest but Euripides is more enjoyable to me than Shakespeare is. It’s not really a contest. I’d rate personal enjoyment like Euripides followed by Sophocles by Shakes by Aeschylus last. Aeschylus has historical significance but he does nothing for me. You could say the same of Thespis or anyone who is “important” yet nothing is even known of them. The importance outweighs the actual works themseves

What went wrong in >>24614203 life to make him so committed to getting verbally raped for 1.5, not 6, hours? I doubt Shitespeare and George Cuckinton would be impressed by his frail composition and half-literacy. Hopefully he commits suicide so the inexorable cope finally ceases.

>>24614210
I have an engineering degree but don‘t use it to gauge matters which are transparently not subject to publishing industry figures, such as whether Shakespeare was roundly acknowledged as a near-singular giant of literature for three and a half centuries of European history before these figures come into play.

>here‘s what you would have looked like if you took the "bait" which you brushed aside because it wasn‘t important
?
Unfortunately I will keep feeding your spergout because it‘s kinda funny and I‘m slacking at work for a few hours yet.

>>24614252
>I have an engineering degree
You don't and it is not a flex at a literature board, loser. You don't know shit about transformers, machining, electronics, bevel gears, cantilevers. You are a pathetic fag at the last line of cope.

>>24614252
>work for a few hours yet
The only timezone where that makes sense is in the fucking pacific ocean you larping subhuman

This dude must get bullied daily in school. This is a legendary spergout over nothing. Bump for entertainment.

>>24614260
not even jargon

>haters and faggots hating the G.O.A.T.
predictable

>>24614281
>neet larping as engineer
hilarious
>>24614280
nice projection, 4chan nerd incel

>>24614291
hating some brown-skinned bald shitskin? Thats right, heil hitler

>>24614294
>the strongest uneducated retard
they aren't sending their best

>>24614300
this reminds me of extremely edgy trolling back in like 2012. this spergout is one of the saddest things I've seen this year

>>24614299
seethe harder

>>24614309
i made one post, two now. you got made fun of and you're sad now. I'm sorry.

>>24614260
>and it is not a flex at a literature board
No but it‘s relevant where somebody tells you to learn math.
>>24614268
Today on /lit/ a stranger is attempting to tell me what my work hours are. Thank you because along with the angry double post, I almost thought this wasn‘t actually going to keep being funny if everybody else was bored of dogpiling you.

>>24614026
>if the button to end music records were presented to me, I wouldn't push it
Neither would I, honestly.
>pic
I came to a similar conclusion when i noticed a lot of the music I'm drawn to draws from either classical or jazz techniques, and most other stuff is just boring or uninteresting.

>>24614320
>to learn math.
You'd have to do that before LARPing as an engineer
>>24614309
Hey bro, sorry your countries are getting ethnically replaced through massive rape and violence and rich jews own you like a dog. Better luck next life since your people are getting erased from the history books?

>>24614314
I'm talking about the weirdo failing to bait /lit/ through Shakespeare, anon. He's either a 40 year old neet or a 15 year old dumbass. Ass up retarded both ways though

>>24614338
>failing to bait /lit/ through Shakespeare
Wrong on both accounts. How is the genocide of your country going btw? Maybe if you vote for le based politician next time it will stop

>>24614342
America was over the moment they decided to give citizenship to non-Anglos and import many of them. As soon as the first micks, first krauts, first wops were allowed in it was game over. Then later groups just gave it the finishing blow.

spergy?

>>24614328
>Hey bro, sorry your countries are getting ethnically replaced through massive rape and violence and rich jews own you like a dog. Better luck next life since your people are getting erased from the history books?

Shakespeare?

Edgiest and most retarded /lit/ troll of 2025 goes out with a whimper. How French.

>>24608811 (OP)
>infinitely larger than Freud.
Lmao
Who the fuck was comparing Shakespeare to some pseudo scientific con man who publicly fantasized about fucking his mom?

>>24614412
ikr

as if anyone ever compared Shakespeare to Fraud

>>24614412
>>24614418
It's Bloom. He's not saying Freud is comparable to Shakespeare as a writer, but that Shakespeare is greater than Freud as a psychologist.

>>24614213
You think this because you're a fucking moron. Greek Tragedy isn't meant to be a Marvel movie.

OH MINE ANON OF FRANCE AND AUTISM
WHAT STRANGE FISH HATH MADE HIS MEAL ON THEE?

>>24613806
Is this bait lmao

>>24613806
Just because a word first appears in Shakespeare's work doesn't mean he coined the word. They could have been spoken all around town but nobody was writing books that would include them so how the hell would we know?

Why do his tragedies always end so weirdly, I've read both Macbeth and Hamlet and it seems like all hell breaks loose in the last 5 pages.
Seems like he decides then, paper is expensive so better just kill everyone.

>>24613806
>literal who
>Goethe and Voltaire
Lmao, how uneducated are you? Stop trying to argue about literature, you are an idiot.

>>24615369
It's a play, not a novel. Obviously the last act and the climax of the play will have a lot going on and try to end on a bombastic, memorable note.

>>24614723
>>24614213
Ezra Pound said it was untranslatable and that he never found an intelligent person who didn't find it boring
Anon is a retard for assuming his reading a translation means he knows anything about Aesychlus who is certainly the peer of all the greatest poets. Despicable

boring in English I mean

>>24608811 (OP)
Weininger said Beethoven was greater because in Shakespeare the world doesn't have a center, in Beethoven it does.
I view Shakespeare as having a world-historic role by providing this vast representation of consciousness, before the modern world
It's not something that can be repeated, or one should want to repeat
I hate that picture OP

>>24615444
Actually go to the Aeschylus thread if you want my full view on Aeschylus which can basically be summed up to what you posted there from Ezra Pound. I concede Aeschylus as influential but his dramas are lifeless and static to me because of the primitive over-reliance on chorus.

Euripides did way more than Aeschyus did when it comes to social conventions and leaving something to think about, as well as having a more modern structure which makes it more readable.

>>24611404
You're just changing the subject. Shakespeare acquired his fame thanks to Germans. He was mistreated by his countrymen
>The insolence of office and the spurns
>That patient merit of the unworthy takes,