It just...Doesnt work - /lit/ (#24612801) [Archived: 111 hours ago]

Anonymous
8/5/2025, 4:32:11 PM No.24612801
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"Wooooooooooh and now this mystical simiulacra shall forever persist beyond the pale of entropy and decay" except thats totally not how it works. Am I getting this wrong? Like Decay is a natural process, it just happens, this doesn't make it not happen, right? I only have surface level intuition but still, all things are impermanent, this is still a thing, it originated from a thing, you cant just claim something transmutated into an exotic form of matter, its still matter.
>inb4 its not about material existence
We are currently residing in a material universe and im so tired of people not accepting that, we may not remain here for long but were here now and all things decay here, even us, even this.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 4:33:39 PM No.24612804
>>24612801 (OP)
>We are currently residing in a material universe
Show me something that isn't mind.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 4:53:03 PM No.24612850
>>24612801 (OP)
> materialist universe
This is the most pervasive midwit opinion and it's insane how immediately and instantly false it is but midwits chew their teeth and bibble.

Before you know anything about matter or the world you have subjective experience. The only possible interface to learn about physics is your personal qualia. It's immediately more likely to be true that the universe is entirely immaterial than the reverse because one position is at least possible.

Now we can't say a lot about the subjective, it may be significant or not, it may cease with death, it may not. But it's indisputable that there is an experiential, subjective aspect to existence and reality that cannot possibly be reduced to physical properties. 100 IQ physicists need to stay purely within their lane of working out how much kPa you can apppy to a grape before it pops and not embarrass themselves.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 4:58:38 PM No.24612859
>>24612804
>>24612850
I am going to ignore your responses and be more direct with my questioning

Does the process of "simulacra" transfiguration reverse entropy, or does it not? if it does, why not rejoice? since decay appears to be the most abhorred process within this universe, if it does not, why do you fear that it does? I will not be satisfied until these answers are plainly explained, I am too tired, I am going to be solution oriented or get my ego smacked.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 5:14:00 PM No.24612890
>>24612859
Go to the bar. Go to bed or go to the bar or go away. You are only asking questions to satisfy your own held beliefs, not to understand something new. Everything is contained within everything else. When you read a book like S and S you must recognise the limits of language and go beyond.
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Anonymous
8/5/2025, 5:22:11 PM No.24612903
>>24612890
but it is not language! it is photons, they pass through my mind into the collective unconscious! I am simply a mimetic Node for intaking the information and passing it off to a higher, deeper power, and I dont like that! why does it get to be in a higher order of existence yet I must remain here, within this gross matter. Perception, It is, and I am not, I perceive it, yet it is the greater, since it is not responsive to stimuli, i must be responsive to it, not fair I say!
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 5:31:52 PM No.24612916
you know its all just a perception game and i gotta tell you, perception is not as eternal as you think it is, the sense organs rot, the nervous system breaks down, evolution persists, and its too anthropocentric anyways, how is it it only gets humans? why cant it get other animals, why make something so self destructive yet such a slow burn? It cannot be so that a mere image which has no inherent agency and is not independently acting can cause harm to an individual who has both agency and is an independent actor. Mayhaps slight mental anguish but surely not physical harm, and thats what matters right? Ahimsa, non-violence, the nerve endings cant feel if they dont touch it right? but you wouldnt just deny your nervous system, would you?
Anonymous
8/5/2025, 6:25:41 PM No.24613039
start with the agony of power