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This lil nigga, if not the greatest, may be the most important modern poet
Pseuds out themselves when they dismiss his importance
Cependant c’est la veille. Recevons tous les influx de vigueur et de tendresse réelle. Et à l’aurore, armés d’une ardente patience, nous entrerons aux splendides villes.
Que parlais-je de main amie ! Un bel avantage, c’est que je puis rire des vieilles amours mensongères, et frapper de honte ces couples menteurs, — j’ai vu l’enfer des femmes là-bas ; — et il me sera loisible de posséder la vérité dans une âme et un corps.
verlaine
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>>24615512 (OP)Fuck he was so pretty
>poetry
>in a language that isnt English
Not relevant to the modern world, sorry
>>24615512 (OP)>Be born blessed by Apollo >Bright light attracts homosexual parasites who leech and corrupt >Stop writing, grow up, sober up, run away>Sell guns in Ethiopia >DieHis life trajectory was poetic in and of itself thoughever, to me such a life is the highest medium of art, like 9/11 or Sky King.
>>24615616Most needful post saar
>>24615512 (OP)hon hon hon! sacre bleu
>>24615586That's the only pic where he looks good
>>24615966Check out the book «Rimbaud est Vivant». Lots of pictures you’ve never seen before.
>>24615586He was truly hot, which I think has to do with its popularity (also being a troublemaker might have to do with it). He was 17 though, he aged like milk eventually.
I do not care for his poetry since I don't speak french
>>24616153He's like 14 in that pic
>>24616167Anime pfps don't care
>>24615912Not sure the point, for what its worth Rimbaud began by dismissing the bulk of French poetry as games. He’s not really a quintessentially French figure. Baudelaire also took a negative attitude towards his countrymen (see his letter to Wagner)
>>24615616Who’s more important? Yeats? Eliot? No way. Rimbaud was truly a seer and the purest most natural genius
>>24615624>>Bright light attracts homosexual parasites who leech and corruptWhere do you get this? Read biography and you get the impression Rimbaud was the one bossing Verlaine around. It’s all kind of unbelievable
Nous ne pouvons savoir ! - Nous sommes accablés
D'un manteau d'ignorance et d'étroites chimères !
Singes d'hommes tombés de la vulve des mères,
Notre pâle raison nous cache l'infini !
Nous voulons regarder : - le Doute nous punit !
Le doute, morne oiseau, nous frappe de son aile...-
Et l'horizon s'enfuit d'une fuite éternelle !
>>24615624happened to me too, anon.
>>24615512 (OP)He looks like he's blind
>>24616729alas..the twink tops
They should do a biopic about him, in two part: first part as him as a teenage poet, and second part as him as an adventurer.
>>24616729Making the victim feel like he is in control is a common pedo trick to make him more compliant and controllable.
>>24615512 (OP)I thought you were talking about Flood lol
>>24619647how would you know
>>24619647I really don't know anything about gay stuff, but Rimbaud was a much greater poet than Verlaine, even at that age, and Verlaine's really good
>>24619647he describes Verlaine as a hysterical woman in A Season in Hell
he just found him annoying
>>24616091nta, but that book is extremely disturbing; i wish you hadn't mentioned it...
>>24620391the pictures are obviously ai generated
I heard that Rimbaud had a older brother named Frédéric, and this poor man was totaly forget from History. Poor dude don't even have a wikipedia page. Sad.
>>24615586Genuinely looks like a lesbian in this one
>>24621897maybe he would have had a wikipeadia page if he had achived something more notable than having a famous brother
>>24622505Maybe he was a pooner
>>24619647>HE WAS 17 YEARS AND 364 DAYS OLD YOU SICK FUCK!
>>24619647nah
Rimbaud just comes off as a kind of a prick
>>24615512 (OP)Baudelaire's prose poems were so objectively better that I think Rimbaud himself even knew this lmao
He was actually a monster... intellectually and otherwise.
I resent the fact that Rimbaud and Verlaine are usually mentioned together.
No offence to Verlaine but Rimbaud is TIERS above him both as a poet and a pop culture personality.
Verlaine's only merit is that he responded to the letter of a young aspiring poet and let himself be led by the nose by a retarded teenager. He would not be remembered otherwise.
>>24623889Rimbaud said Baudelaire was a God but people don’t read Baudelaire for the prose
>>24624881Not really, and it doesn’t matter
>>24625247Verlaine’s very good, he has some perfect poems. He’s conservative whereas Rimbaud is an original. It doesn’t make sense to group them together as though they were one school because they’re very different, Rimbaud is something from another world
>>24625416as I said, no offence to Verlaine, he's ok
but Rimbaud is one of the GOATS, he is a literal unironic genius who mastered multiple languages to utter perfection, not just some sort of talanted kid who once in a while managed to come by a cool sounding phrase
>>24625416he was a literal psychopath
>>24626643Psychopaths don’t produce sublime poetry, though arguably psychotic personality traits is a prerequisite for creative achievement (though I wouldn’t put it this way). Literature by its nature is anti-social. Biblical prophets can be said to be psychopathic. He conducted himself very orderly and responsibly in his later life. The question is, what’s your pointv
>>24615512 (OP)Rimbaud is 8/10 in French and 5/10 in English.
>>24627594My point is that people have a one-dimensional idealised view of him being a "victim" and a "tortured soul".
He was in many ways a cold, ruthless and calculating person and someone like that can still be sensitive and create beautiful things. The world is not a simple place.
>conducted himself very orderly and responsiblyi.e. was an arms and slave trader, a respectable profession
>>24627699> being a "victim" and a "tortured soul".Don’t know anyone who does this
> cold, ruthless and calculating person There’s nothing cold or calculating about his poetic project
> The world is not a simple place.Idiotic banality
> slave trader, a respectable professionHe wasn’t a slave trader, unless you have some fresh evidence to bring to the world.
His behavior was of course upsetting to his mother. So was, it might be said with no intentions of blasphemy, the behavior of Jesus Christ
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>>24627727I was going to let this go but you know what?
He was very methodical and deliberate about the way he worked. Poetry is not all about spontaneity and inspiration. He was the type of person that knew exactly what he wanted to achieve.
>>24616729>twink dom topTruly ahead of his time
>>24615512 (OP)That'd be Mallarmé
>>24627795Again, what's you're point? You're a moralfagging mediocrity
>>24615512 (OP)Convince me, op, svp. Show me a few lines of his poetry that display its beauty and explain why you think those lines are beautiful. No chatgpt allowed.
>>24628024I like this line
>Cum is dripping from my butt It really shows the suffering of the lyrical hero
the latter part of his life is much more interesting
>>24615512 (OP)He was Nietzschean: creates art, rebels against the herd, had a taboo affair, runs away seeking adventure, sells weapons exotic land
he was too pure for this world
Honestly, with all due respect to Rimbaud and his massive influence, I have always felt like he was more an interesting person than a beautiful poet. He's really more of a myth than a writer at this point. The Illuminations are really beautiful and innovative, but honestly his verse poems aren't that good in comparison, and they're only famous because of his latter prose. His prose feels energetic, obsessive, powerful, but I think it lacks the kind of beauty that hits the soul deep down, the one that really makes someone like Verlaine or Laforgue much more poetic than him. He's a really mythical figure, but he's not the kind of poet you stick around with.
tldr i always felt that Rimbaud was more flash and reputation than pure beauty.
>After Gautier, France produced, as nearly as I can understand, three chief and admirable poets: Tristan Corbière, perhaps the most poignant writer since Villon; Rimbaud, a vivid and indubitable genius; and Laforgue—a slighter, but in some ways a finer "artist" than either of the others. I do not mean that he "writes better" than Rimbaud; and Eliot has pointed out the wrongness of Symons's phrase, "Laforgue the eternal adult, Rimbaud the eternal child." Rimbaud's effects seem often to come as the beauty of certain silver crystals produced by chemical means. Laforgue always knows what he is at; Rimbaud, the "genius" in the narrowest and deepest sense of the term, the "most modern," seems, almost without knowing it, to hit on the various ways in which the best writers were to follow him, slowly. Laforgue is the "last word":—out of infinite knowledge of all the ways of saying a thing he finds the right way. Rimbaud, when right, is so because he cannot be bothered to exist in any other modality.
>‘the primary study of the man who wishes to be a poet’, wrote Rimbaud ‘is his own knowledge, entirely. He seeks for his soul, inspects, tempts it, instructs it. As soon as he knows it, his duty is its cultivation.'
>This formula of derangement was for Rimbaud, as for some of the greatest artists and magicians, the supreme key to inspiration and the reception of vivid images such as those which flash and tremble upon the luminous canvases of a Dali or an Ernst.
> It is the kind of inspiration which Remy de Gourmant recognized as the source of Les Chants de Maldoror which, he said, ‘will remain unique and from now on belongs to that list of works which . . . forms the abbreviated library and only possible reading of those whose ill-made spirits will not lend themselves to the everyday joys of the commonplace.'
The contrasting image of Rimbaud's ascetic life and tribulations in Africa while the puffed-up parisian fops self-congratulatory extol the exquisiteness of his poetry is grotesque.
A side observer might see his eventual fame as a vindication but it is just farce.
They mocked him and at the same time they raised his distorted image into a twisted idol.
From a purely human perspective I wish all of his work had been lost.
>>24631041this just sounds like gibberish to me t b h
>>24631612Stick to reading YA
>>24631450Never met a Parisian fop but all great artists, all noble human beings (I mean the famous ones), have their memory abused. This is like regretting Shakespeare survived because now we have the idiotic popular Shakespeare cult
>>24630572The myth is meaningless and not that interesting, he's a very superior poet, you are just arrogant and don't have the appreciation for it
>>24631644It's particularly jarring when you juxtapose the legend in the process of its making with its subject who couldn't care less.
The attitude shifted from "That little rat!" to "He slapped me once! It was amazing!"
It's all hypocrisy and petty fussing.
>>24631644Please explain in what way i am arrogant, when I said that I had read Rimbaud and liked the Illuminations. But most importantly, explain why you believe that he's so superior as a poet. You've just repeated how influential and innovative he was, but this isn't a proof of beauty. I believe that Verlaine's poems are far more beautiful and well-crafted than Rimbaud's, which are more flash than lasting beauty.
The only other French poet on the level of Rimbaud is Villon.
>>24631838It’s just not the case that Rimbaud is technically deficient or inferior to Verlaine in any way, you assume this because he is young, Rimbaud’s poems cannot be better crafted. Verlaine obviously has his own mastery of effects which you apparently as partial to.
>I believeYour belief is just a random prejudice, and the first person who would disagree with it is Verlaine
You ask for an explanation for why Rimbaud is so great or beautiful (as if beauty can be explained), this is like asking a religionist to justify themselves. But insofar as modernity, despite its unhappy character, has offered novel spiritual potentials—Rimbaud was there; and he’s really more than beautiful, sublime.
>>24626643the star cried pink within the heart of your ears
infinity rolled white from you neck to your hips
the sea foamed red upon your vermillion nipples
and Man bled black by your sovereign side
>>24633031I find that Rimbaud lacks musicality and the subtle atmosphere of Verlaine, so I prefer Verlaine over him.
>you assume this because he is youngThis is false, young Verlaine was the best in my opinion (Romances sans paroles has some of the greatest french poetry).
>Your belief is just a random prejudiceI have read Rimbaud. This is not a prejudice (which btw would favor Rimbaud instead) but a jugement. Why can't you realise that a different aestehtic than yours is legitimate?
You have explained absolutely nothing about the beauty of Rimabud's poetry. This simply proves that you have no idea what constitutes poetic beauty and meaning. And don't just say that beauty cannot be explained, because I can definitely give reasons as to why I like a certain poet in particular, just like any decent reader could. Also
>and the first person who would disagree with it is VerlaineI couldn't care less. I like Verlaine for his poetry, not his opinions.
Are there any guides to better understanding his works.
T. Minimal clue about poetry
>>24633071>Romances sans parolesIronic that this was written under Rimbaud's strict supervision
>>24615512 (OP)most people form their opinions on him based on a picture that is not even an accurate representation of what he looked like
>>24633071As I said Rimbaud is a sublime visionary. I cannot explain this to you any more than I could Isaiah. If you think musicianship is all that matters in poetry, do you also consider Bauelaire and Hugo a flash in the pan? And more seriously, you must prefer Pound over Yeats?
>>24633843>you must prefer Pound over Yeats?This comparison is null for both were initiated into the tune of the Cosmos
Rimbaud was actually a Chad, this automatically makes him better than any faggy-ass bitch