The first time I read 120 Days of Sodom I was intrigued but disgusted
The second time I was bored and the "philosophy" was utterly laughably pathetic
But the third time something switched in my brain, where out in the world I found myself thinking like De Sade thinks
What sorcery is this

>>24622022 (OP)
You can always buy another book OP.

Be honest, /lit/. Is it worth reading?

>>24622154
Kinda
I'd honestly skip most of the first part because it's repetitive and just boring
The really interesting part are the delights and further parts, but sadly unfinished

>>24622022 (OP)
You’re still an idiot who doesn’t get it, sorry. The philosophy of the book isn’t the one the libertines espouse.
You should have been impressed the first time, by the way. It’s unironically always going to be over your head. Stick to sword and sorcery.
>>24622154
Yes, it changed my life when I was eighteen.

>>24622161
You realise De Sades entire "philosophy" was literally nobility cope right? Like you do realise it's a total fucking sham?

>>24622162
First of all, stop calling him “De Sade.” It’s Sade. And you are not equipped to be having this conversation at all. He’s one of the most profound thinkers of all time.

>>24622165
I'll call him what I want faggot

>>24622154
His other works are more readable. Try the first version of Justine.

>>24622022 (OP)
sorry but expecting anything worthwhile from mister Sadist himself just reveals your retardation.
Alas...

>one of the most profound thinkers
>"dude if it feels good do it you can't be in the wrong if you're doing it in the pursuit of happiness"
LMAO

>>24622169
See >>24622161
>The philosophy of the book isn’t the one the libertines espouse.

But continue to willfully not understand and spam the thread with JAJAJAJAJAJA like the brown third worlder you are.

>>24622172
OK Mr Profound Thinker tell us retards what the philosophy is, despite him literally saying it in his works and letters

>>24622176
Shan’t be casting my pearls before swine.

Now, a few things might happen
>1: he deflects and says "u-uh i'm not going to explain it b-because you're all stupid111!!!" 95% chance of happening
>2: he similarly deflects by saying "i'm not even going to bother LOL" in a passive aggressive twittertranny way, 80% chance
>3: he actually does explain, 5% chance

>>24622022 (OP)
You see why the French are called pigs now. Lowly scum that never evolved beyond Gaul.

WELL WELL WELL LOOK AT THAT

>>24622176
Not him but two common interpretations are 1. he’s responding to Rousseau who claims that humans are naturally good and society corrupts them (Paglia) and 2. he’s an atheist trying to get across the fact that the universe is a crucible, not a coddled place watched over by God.
Anon might have something else in mind though

>>24622187
>humans are naturally good and society corrupts them
this is true THOUGH?

>>24622189
No, it isn’t. It’s society keeping crime in check. On every occassion that society collapses, people go feral.

>>24622187
Yeah my reading is basically a combination of those and some other considerations. I could unironically write an entire book about my reading of Sade, but obviously not doing it here. I only say that he’s probably the most profound philosopher to write novels to countersignal threads like this that just take him at face value and try to get anons to read him, not to invite debate with anons who can’t read.

>>24622212
*(I’m the one trying to get people to read him, that was unclearly worded.) ((I just woke up.))

What's up with all the shit and eating shit etc stuff

>>24622216
Probably emphasizing the gross reality of existence compared to the ways we try to self-mythologize and say we were “made in God’s image.” Here’s a similar train of thought in a book called Denial of Death by Ernest Becker:
>"Excreting is the curse that threatens madness because it shows man his abject finitude, his physicalness, the likely unreality of his hopes and dreams. But even more immediately, it represents man's utter bafflement at the sheer non-sense of creation: to fashion the sublime miracle of the human face, the mysterium tremendum of radiant female beauty, the veritable goddesses that beautiful women are; to bring this out of nothing, out of the void, and make it shine in noonday; to take such a miracle and put miracles again within it, deep in the mystery of eyes that peer out-the eye that gave even the dry Darwin a chill; to do all this, and to combine it with an anus that shits! It is too much. Nature mocks us, and poets live in torture."

>could easily write a book completely btfoing every single philosopher and religious scholar with bulletproof reasoning and arguments
>book would genuinely change the world
>don't write it because I don't want to cast my pearls before swine and I simply can't be bothered

>>24622222
Thanks for proving you can’t read. Checked, thoughbeit.

>>24622212
Admittedly I haven’t read de Sade, I can’t stomach it. But I did find Paglia’s sections about him pretty interesting.

>>24622239
lol I’m one of the rare freaks who read it studiously cover to cover. I wonder how many people have

>>24622226
But I do read and could easily btfo every single previous thinker, just like you can, but we don't because we don't want to waste our talents

>>24622249
I didn’t say I could BTFO anyone, I said I could write an entire book about my personal interpretation of Sade. You’re confidently hallucinating things like Chat GPT.

>>24622255
>i could totally explain why de sade is a genius and why everyone else is wrong
>but instead of discussing literature I just won't because...uh....

>>24622272
Because of the age-old wisdom not to cast your pearls before swine. I’m willing to come on here and converse but I’m not opening Scrivener and writing an essay for someone already inclined to be antagonistic who can’t even read in the first place. I will give you some advice though: when you read, don’t just react to the content on the page. Especially not when reading a literal philosopher, who is not writing a philosophical tract, but a novel. That means he’s getting across his points indirectly. So you have to ask yourself, why is this guy writing about a girl shitting milk into a man’s coffee for him to drink considered a philosopher? What could he mean by this? Instead of going, Wow, all that’s happening is a girl is shitting milk into coffee, this isn’t very profound at all. When is someone going to tell me what to think?
There is a difference between “reading” and *reading* that you have not yet learned.

>>24622165
Desade was a faggot and will always be a faggot, faggot.

>>24622022 (OP)
How the fuck could you read it 3 times?

>>24622286
Holy fucking shit lmfao
All those words just for it to be cope about "I-I totally have an epic and amazing post about De Sade b-but it's TOO GOOD for you so I'm not posting it"
You're only fooling yourself

>>24622307
Oink oink

>>24622311
This is the level of intellectual discourse you have? No wonder you don't actually have anything worthwhile to post about De Sade

>>24622318
*slaughters and fries you*
Mmmm bacon :P

>>24622022 (OP)
He goes on great lengths how the frayers at monastery do all kinds of fucking, sucking and ritual sacrifice.
I've been working in scientific research institutes for some time and I can assure they are the modern day monasteries, with much pederastic shit going on, favorites, boy-toys, dog fighting for grants, and the ritual scapegoating whitch hunts at 11.
It's like the antichrist Peter Thiel described modern science, 10 persons cutthroat fighting for 5 retorts in a lab.
Thanks to Sade, scales fell from my eyes.

Dude sex lmao cumming haha penis vagina arse

Dude God lmao angels haha souls and golden streets

>>24622022 (OP)
I just jerked off to it.

>>24622508
NOT for lewd

Some of the delights are downright comical
>tying a girl to a rocket and setting it off

>>24622494
Did you like working there?

>>24622187
And how do either of these interpretations qualify Sade as 'one of the most profound thinkers of all time'? Kek, utterly ridiculous and childish. Constantly exposing and desensitising yourself to vulgarity and perversity is only conflated with 'truth' or the 'revealing of truth' by incredibly intellectually underdeveloped minds, and as expected there is almost always some sort of personal drive, psychoanalytical or pornographic, which is the real justification behind it, because even though it is only an intellectually underdeveloped mind, like a young teenager, that would be convinced by it, in 99% of cases a normative psychology and sexual orientation would nonetheless stop them from experiencing that exposure and desensitisation. And we have ample evidence from Sade's letters that he had a pornographic interest in his stories. If you want to be an intellectually respectable amoralist then you can't go any further than Nietzsche. Sade's entire worldview is just the reaction against Christianity, and therefore entirely contained within its worldview. Seeing existence as nothing but the product of nihilistic chaos, and advocating for satanic and devilish actions, is the direct inverse of the Christian individual's desired reality. If a Christian thinks of what type of world he would NOT want to be the reality, he comes to Sade. It's all very childish and pathetic and shares no resemblance to the great achievements of either Christian or Pagan cultures.

>ANOTHER De Sade thread
So basically /lit/ has collectively moved on from Blood Meridian ever since that one guy made a video on it (now it's not niche enough) and made it very reddit, so naturally De Sade is getting the push of all pushes, jumping straight to Sadie because he's too vile for Reddit to seriously co-opt. That sums up the metamorphosis of this board in a nutshell. How about we come to our own conclusions? If you liked Blood Meridian, good for you. Don't let some guy in a pineapple shirt stop you.

>>24623405
....what? Can someone translate?

>>24623433
These threads are just white/male flight, but for Blood Meridian. It's /lit/ flight.

In that metaphor is reddit the suburb that has been left or returned to?

>>24622022 (OP)
Some day this SHIT will cease to exist, forgotten, and no one will be subjected to this disgusting aberration ever again.

>>24622154
No because it's just an outline and part of a first draft, not a finished work.

>>24622178
>swine coping

>>24623739
It's endured for centuries despite attempts to destroy it

>>24623433
He's saying the only reason anyone has to talk about de Sade is that the YouTuber Wendigoon made a video summarizing the plot of Blood Meridian and therefore /lit/ can no longer talk about it without being "normies".

>>24622154
No. Only edgelords and pseuds pretend to like Sade. The novelty wears off fast, leaving nothing of literary value. Read him only out of morbid curiosity, and even then, it's a waste of time. Anyone projecting "deep philosophy" onto him is a tryhard; anyone actually agreeing with him needs therapy, urgently. Either group's best defense is always "you just don't get it", which is the surest sign there's nothing to get.

>>24623739
Don't talk about yourself like that

>>24624871
I'm talking about that "120 years of jail" piece of shit book.