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Anonymous No.24717435 [Report] >>24717495 >>24717621 >>24717677 >>24717817
Our time has come, schoppybros.
/lit/ is now a full Schopenhauer board. Only today I read a bunch of schoppy threads. Great!
Anonymous No.24717495 [Report]
>>24717435 (OP)
Feels good
Anonymous No.24717621 [Report]
>>24717435 (OP)
Based
Anonymous No.24717625 [Report] >>24717630
Cringe forgettable "philosopher"
Anonymous No.24717630 [Report] >>24717648 >>24717867
>>24717625
This is Schopenhauer's influence just on the surface:

>Those who have cited his influence include philosophers such as Friedrich Nietzsche[26] and Ludwig Wittgenstein,[27] scientists such as Erwin Schrödinger and Albert Einstein,[28] psychoanalysts such as Sigmund Freud[29] and Carl Jung, writers such as Leo Tolstoy,[30] Herman Melville,[31] Thomas Mann, Hermann Hesse,[32] Machado de Assis,[33] Jorge Luis Borges, Marcel Proust,[34] and Samuel Beckett[35] as well as composers such as Richard Wagner,[34] Johannes Brahms,[34] Arnold Schoenberg[34][36] and Gustav Mahler.[34]

>Influenced
Anjos, Assis, Bahnsen, Beckett, Bergson, Borges, Brahms, Brouwer, Campbell, Einstein[9], Fet, Cioran, Dilthey[10], Freud, Gray[11], Hardy, Hartmann, Hesse, Horkheimer, Huysmans, Jung, Reve, Kraus[12], Ludovici[13], Ligotti, Mahler, Mainländer, Majorana[14], Mann, Maupassant, Michelstaedter, Nietzsche, Proust, Rank, Reve, Rilke, Ryle[15], Santayana, Schlick[16], Shaw, Schoenberg, Schrödinger, Solovyov, Spengler, Tolstoy[17], Vaihinge,r Volkelt, Wagner, Weininger, Wittgenstein, Zapffe, Zola.

>New additions
James Joyce, Nick Land, Michel Houellebecq, Gilbert Ryle, Simone Weil.
Anonymous No.24717638 [Report] >>24718106
recommend me a book as a first time read
Anonymous No.24717648 [Report] >>24717655
>>24717630
>those who have sited
throw away lines do not an impact make.
Anonymous No.24717655 [Report]
>>24717648
People who read his work do!
Anonymous No.24717677 [Report] >>24717684 >>24717710 >>24717755
>>24717435 (OP)
Didn't he just rehash what the Indians said?
Anonymous No.24717684 [Report] >>24717762
>>24717677
No, he read Upanishads in his 30s after the publication of his magnum opus.
Anonymous No.24717710 [Report]
>>24717677
no. However, there are overlaps between Schopenhauer and Buddhism including the idea that desire itself is a cause of suffering and the sentiment that it is better not to have been born in the first place.
Anonymous No.24717713 [Report] >>24717764 >>24717810
>>24717106
Schop bros need help disputing this. Mostly what this is in reply to, but the post itself contains the problems outlined that I need remedied.
Does Schop still solve hume even tangentially, despite moving away from Kant?
Anonymous No.24717755 [Report] >>24717762
>>24717677
He rehashed the Indians AND Kant but with better prose than both
Anonymous No.24717762 [Report] >>24717771 >>24717810
>>24717755
>>He rehashed the Indians
This has no basis in reality. See >>24717684
Anonymous No.24717764 [Report] >>24717837
>>24717713
He is a typical academic vermin, brainwashed by his careerist professors for his freshman courses so no amount of convincing will convince him.
Anonymous No.24717767 [Report]
I love when this happens
Anonymous No.24717771 [Report] >>24717777
>>24717762
He directly mentioned the Upanishads in The World as Will, along with other Hindu concepts like the Veil of Maya
Anonymous No.24717777 [Report] >>24717792 >>24717820
>>24717771
In first volume? Also he wrote "On the Fourfold Root of the Principle of Sufficient Reason" when he was 26 as his university thesis. All of Schopenhauer's basis of his later philosophy is in this work.
Anonymous No.24717790 [Report] >>24717817
we won
Anonymous No.24717792 [Report]
>>24717777
nta and I don't care about Schopy but quads of truth have decided you're correct
Anonymous No.24717810 [Report] >>24717814 >>24717837
>>24717713
Well spoken but he's the exact dogmatist he's describing. Either genuine midwit or witting sophist, just point and laugh.

>>24717762
>"In India, our religions will never at any time take root; the ancient wisdom of the human race will not be supplanted by the events in Galilee. On the contrary, Indian wisdom flows back to Europe, and will produce a fundamental change in our knowledge and thought"
He simply thought ancient indians were closer to the mark than bastardizing jews and their offspring.
Anonymous No.24717814 [Report]
>>24717810
>He simply thought ancient indians were closer to the mark than bastardizing jews and their offspring.
Okay but still he came to those conclusions independently.
Anonymous No.24717817 [Report] >>24718033
>>24717790
>>24717435 (OP)
I'm disappointed that pragmaticism hasn't won yet however it is good to see that Schopenhauer's advocates have prevailed over the Hegelians and their ilk.
Anonymous No.24717820 [Report]
>>24717777
>the Fourfold Root
what is it?
Anonymous No.24717837 [Report] >>24717838
>>24717764
>>24717810
Guys I cant tell who or what youre responding to or criticizing. As an open minded anon who is a fan of Schopenhauer based on reading of his essays, the linked post was my post, trying to wrestle with the criticism of the post I was replying to criticizing Schopenhauer's understanding of Kant (which I dont even think in principle is necessarily ridiculous, but the anon contexualizing and reminding how Kant is a response to Hume and that not incorporating certain tenets of Kant leaves you open to the criticisms Hume posited that Kant was trying to escape from)
So what are you guys responding to specifically?
Anonymous No.24717838 [Report] >>24717841
>>24717837
>Schopenhauer based on reading of his essays,
Read "On the Fourfold Root of the Principle of Sufficient Reason" and then his main work until then you haven't read.
Anonymous No.24717841 [Report]
>>24717838
Im currently reading something else I just browse these threads and this board to learn new concepts through osmosis to develop interest to read in the future in the first place. This was the first Schopenhauer criticism that made sense to me. I just want to know if it can even be addressed or if Schopenhauer even dodges the problem of Hume or if the criticism is apt
Anonymous No.24717867 [Report]
>>24717630
I'm reading a book on Idealism, and the authors mention that F. H. Bradley's philosophy of the Absolute, despite its name, actually is much closer to Schopenhauer's Will than the other Idealists' Absolutes. I don't know if it's an influence, but it's interesting, nonetheless.
Anonymous No.24718033 [Report] >>24718071
>>24717817
>muh schope won

Won what?

>m-muh schope said I don't gotta say nuthin

So you'll never perform?

>m-m-muh yeah

So you didn't win so much as never started?

>hey man like I jus like magic n shaheeet m-muh retVrn

Schope never advocated for a traditional society.

>m-muh I knows better dan to try dat witchu massuh I keep da magic to muhself

Sounds like I won either way.
Anonymous No.24718071 [Report] >>24718080
Bot alert >>24718033
Anonymous No.24718080 [Report]
>>24718071
Yeah alright, you already know I like Schopenhauer's philosophy. Where did we leave off? So when I say Schopenhauer left a complete metaphysical system for his adherents what I'm saying is that Schope excluded using causality beyond the immediate, in other words all that you will ever know concerning causality is relegated to your literal body and the start of you. He also left the sequence open until a complete knowledge of nature was performed. When you map this back onto the meditations it basically means Schope only gets to be right when he can demonstrate his world. Anything less is just a contribution to understanding for him.
Anonymous No.24718106 [Report]
>>24717638
On The Wisdom of Life
Anonymous No.24718286 [Report]
Hegelfags LOST!