Thread 24736998

>rent just spiked again
>the Amazon lawyer crushed my buddy’s union vote
>city hall approved another “luxury micro-flat” the size of a coffin
>boss shaved my hours “until Q4,"
>the corner shop wants €5 for bread
>meanwhile the fash keep racking up seats and TikTok views like it’s a speed-run

We keep losing to the guys promising curfews and corporate serfdom wrapped in neon memes and calling it “based”. Millions of illiterate whites across all of Europe and America are eating this bullshit up and asking for seconds.

When did the left swap picket lines for panel discussions? Why are we losing the most important ideological battle in the history of mankind?

I'm unironically starting to think the only way to make an actual change is to do a Luigi and hope the fire spreads.

Gimme books and essays that show wtf is happening. No 600-page theory doorstops, no YA plucky-teen insurrections, no TED-lite memoirs about “finding your activist voice.”

Post titles that make me believe the fight’s not lost yet.

Convince me we’re not already living in permanent night.

Not that you are actually look for books.

>>24736998 (OP)
If you love communism so much why don't you move to venezuela, north korea or cuba?

>>24737012
Case in point. How the fuck does one deal with these golems?

>>24737018
By swinging to the fences.

Don't call it a grave, it's the future leftists chose.

>>24736998 (OP)
You want a hypothetical answer?

>>24737059
Looking more for a hypothetical cope.

>>24737063
Yeah Idk if I can help you there. You can always just engage in pill popping groyp feuds, that's the equivalent of ego shaming or whatever. No books needed. Just take whatever pills are available. Maybe there's still finger pointing to do.

>>24737088
I like pills.

>>24737012
Sometimes I wonder if these responses are just low quality bait or if people actually are this retarded. From experience I've come to never underestimate human stupidity

The left is dead. If you want genuine socialism in the 21st century, coopt right populism and recreate national socialism or national syndicalism. Your only other option will be feckless intersectionalist leftism or some anti-intersectionalist hardliner Marxist-Leninist piffle only adhered to by "queer" college students, and even if the latter somehow manages to overcome all odds and become a working class party again it will just be coopted by China as a useful fifth column once it becomes strong enough to be a threat to the status quo in Western countries. National socialism is the only way.

It's in every mainstream history book on the major fascist states that they effectively did great "communism in one nation." The qualitative transformation Marx wanted, from sick bourgeois man and proletariat man with their instinctive presumptions (due to the process of alienation) that wages are ontologically real, actually did occur in the fascist states, for better or worse. The Volksgemeinschaft annihilated the capitalist experience of wage, labor, and money-value. The greatest achievements of the socialist New Man in the USSR were dwarfed by those of the fascists.

Is this a perfect solution if your ultimate goal is some post-national post-war global utopia? No, but as Marx and Engels and Lenin all themselves believed, national-level socialisms would necessarily precede international socialism. There is little difference between having a Chartist revolution in the 1830s and turning British "national-socialist" and having a National Socialist movement today. Just don't bother with any biological reductionist race fetishism. But also don't be a fucking retarded poisoned by neoliberal propaganda and be so anti-racialist that you get upset when people want to mostly associate with their own kind.

>>24737012
Can’t afford a plane ticket anymore.

>>24737100
At any give time, there are 8 people in the world who can talk about politics without sullying their underwear. One of them posted on 4chan back in 2014, no one noticed.

>>24737093
Well that's something. Yeah so a hypothetical then. Could the conservatives of America and Europe have won without Trump esque candidates? There's nothing traditional about these people. Sorry trVds, I'm not going to bother with you. The likeliest answer is no. Trump is a socialist, and all of the people claiming otherwise have no idea what capitalism was, their parents didn't even grow up with it. All they can say is stuff like muh doin what I think best. Suffice it to say the real people who cling to tradition aren't interested in it either since the real version wiped out all the traditions they claim to care about. So Trump clearly won over enough non-conservative people in the right places. You might ask at this point how many of those think socialism is good? Pill poppers will consume whatever pills are in front of them, as long as it's socialism they will comply and it doesn't matter what flavor pill is put in front of them. The American left ran moderates to try to appease these people and lost. If socialism is desired then running socialist candidates seems logical. They have some test elections between now and 28 to see if this might work. There's also some time for all the heckerino basedbro pillers to realize Trump is expecting them to shit out 10 kids and pay for all of them on their own and retire on their own money as well. It's easy to take a different pill for them. In the past corporations could rely on the right not to nationalize and just import more people and offer welfare. Now Trump is willing to nationalize and instead of welfare he just wants to run the printing press and not import people. He's also hostile to releasing economic data. You might see corporate support shift some if all the groyps can't produce enough offspring. If ai makes enough of them obsolete then they will go with whoever nationalizes.

What does this mean to the left? You can look back at similar moments. The excessive ego shaming hasn't panned out well for them. They historically have purported to care more about the truth but this was during a time when the opposition had no real unity. Now the situation is reversed. Some of what could have been useful in past isn't all that useful. Take the reverse cancel culture, how many of the right people still watch TV? How many people still watch TV at all? Newsom's redistricting has to win, but it could cost CA universities and so forth. It boils down to whether they want to continue to point fingers or go with socialism. Socialism won again, it's not going anywhere, neither is the withering of the state. It doesn't matter if you're left or right, you might just want to read Marx instead of letting people try to explain him to you.

>>24737100
Well to be fair moderation is key. Thinking communism is going to save everyone from the capitalist west is historically illiterate. First off, most communists think none of the regimes are "real communism", anyways. Because they killed too many people. Pray tell, what is real communism then? Because creating heaven on earth is never going to happen, and if you hate the west so much you can say goodbye to the freedom of conscience that allows you to have those beliefs in the first place. Because either you fall into the party line or you die. Your choice.

>>24737128
>i can't afford groceries
so sign up for foodstamps, america already gives u that for free if ur too useless to make a living wage

>>24737136
I was thinking something more along the lines of klonopin or xanax.

Am I the only one excited by the prospect of a post-liberal era?

>>24737182
no. there are plenty of dregs of society besides you

>>24736998 (OP)
You need to spend less time online. I am saying this for the sake of your own mental health. Your material conditions and political concers are of importance no doubt, and although I likely disagree with you on many topics I still wish you the best in a theoretical sense. But it is plain to see that mental sclerosis has gained dominion over you because of chronically-onlineitis and I compel you at once to spend more time outside in the sun. Do you know how many people in the western hemisphere are deficient in magnesium and vitamin d? And do you know how cheap and easy it is to correct these deficiencies?

I assure you, if you take steps towards improving your mental well-being, your perspective will change and you will view the world in a completely different light. Things are not as dark as they seem.

extremely corny post op. your sad attempt to recruit internet losers to your cheese ideology is cringe af. especially since you try a veneer of edgy, but just saw what every ruling european party already says. lame.

>>24736998 (OP)
Why do you think the Left has lost the confidence of the hoi polloi? Could it maybe have something to do with becoming violent, Statist fanatics for a religion of transsexualism instead of addressing labor issues? Could it have to do with undermining working class stability by means of regressive taxes and fines, mass immigration, mass race riots? Could it have to do with the active destruction of national values and traditions which are important to the proletarian consciousness? Could it maybe have something to do with taking billions from globalist Capital? Do you think that says anything about their goals?

Absolute fucking moron.

When I was a kid, I went to a birthday party. All the kids were playing that pinata game. Someone broke the pinata open and all the candy fell out. I ran and put my body on top of the pile of candy that fell out and started shoving it all in my pockets and trying to prevent anyone else from getting MY candy. The other kids pushed me off the pile of candy and started sticking their greedy little hands in my pockets and taking MY candy. I couldn't contest all of these thieves by myself. The thieving children stole my candy and got away with it and I was only left with a handful of candy at the end of it all.
The moral of the story is, when all the wealth is concentrated in the pockets of a few ultra wealthy, we must seize the wealth from the ultra wealthy, otherwise we won't get anything.

>>24737188
A post-democratic, authoritarian society will by necessity be aristocratic and oligarchic, such a situation will not serve the lowest strata of society, who will in effect be excluded from any share in power.

>>24736998 (OP)
> the only way to make an actual change is to do a Luigi
Please do and either get arrested or killed by the ZOGbots. The less AI sloppers, the better

>>24736998 (OP)
>Why are we losing the most important ideological battle in the history of mankind?
Because you chose gender confirmation surgeries and replacement immigration over workers, unions and democracy.

>>24737329
that's antisemitic though

>>24736998 (OP)
Read Limonov

How do not realize that in your avoidance of "the fash" you have become something just as grotesque if not worse?

>>24736998 (OP)
nigga and what book are you discussing? fuck off to /pol/.

>>24737100
>From experience I've come to never underestimate human stupidity
Self-own LMAO.

>>24736998 (OP)
The economy is telling you to start your own business. You're just too dumb or too cowardly to recognise the fact.
Either way, capitalism is working just fine, rewarding the enterprising and energetic, and punishing the lazy and the stupid.