Thread 24794396

This bad nigga reads like Black Souls on steroids fr. I cranked one out to Tyrone-Katje, and I got a stiffy from the Blicero section ngl.

>>24794396 (OP)
The post and the statement served little purpose.
Who is the person in the image?

Any ideas why Pynchon no longer has that revered status he once had? I've tried talking to my professors about it and they just said sometimes certain authors and styles fall out of favor, like what happened to the Updike/Mailer/Bellow writers.

>>24795058
I do believe that the man in question is one Frank Gardner (though I may be mistaken)

>>24794396 (OP)
I jerked off to the femdom-sissy-bull relationship in Against the Day, yes I did
>>24795063
Decline in literacy

>>24795063
I think he still has it, the circle just gets more and more academic and separated from the majority of readers. It's always been experimental work for the most part, but I'm now reading that V and 49 each sold around three million copies when they released, which seems kind of wild.

>>24795063
>Any ideas why Pynchon no longer has that revered status he once had?
Who says he doesn't? Still seems like the go-to author to read if you want to look smart.

>>24795063
most readers are women and the majority of men who read now are minorities and gay. pynchon doesn't appeal to them. they detest boomer liberals.

>>24795063
>like what happened to the Updike/Mailer/Bellow

These all have a familial bond in common-- they're plants to sell badly typeset bricks and push coomershit. It's The Cold War and Marxist-Leninism is grim and serious and intellectual, deadset on remedying modernity; here comes along the flower nihilism with MAD permissible hedonism to short circuit the former's appeal-- there's always more than one 'opiate of the masses'.

>>24795063
Apparently millenials/genx/boomers find him really funny, but gen z just finds his humor style cheugy fr.

>>24795063
Isn't Pynchon an author that continues to have a metric fuckton of papers and dissertations written about him? I remember an anon sharing specific numbers in a thread and Pinecone was crazy high up. He's also constantly talked about on /lit/, his popularity endures.

>>24795089
>3 million
What the fuck.

>>24795063
Probably started ever since BE to be honest. The general decline in interest in him in academia also coincided with a rise in literature deemed more "authentic".

>>24795063
America not being the dominant cultural superpower

>>24795149
Is it really so unthinkable a number?

>>24795241
For a highly experimental debut novel like V? Yes.

>>24795063
I actually had this discussion at the last Pynchon conference I attended. Most people, i.e. actual Pynchon scholars, agreed it was more a decline in those all-encompassing, encyclopedic, system novels being seen as the acme of literature as well as an increasing awareness in marginalized voices in publishing.

>>24795274
>agreed it was more a decline in those all-encompassing, encyclopedic, system novels being seen as the acme of literature as well as an increasing awareness in marginalized voices in publishing.
I.e. people got dumber and woke became more prominent

>>24795285
> woke became more prominent
tbf it was a pynchon conference, i and everyone else there are probably in the top percentile of being “woke” and we’re all fans of him. what i meant was that there’s more of a tendency now to not push the “great white male author” as some sort sage dispensing wisdom with his novels and instead try to give attention to other more disenfranchised voices and see what they have to say.

>>24795079
That anime harem sequence in Vineland was next level gooncore

>>24795307
i think the irony is that marginalized writers just get pushed into marketable categories that make it harder to get anything experimental published. western literary fiction has its own language. it makes me sad because i think Pynchon really does continue this wacko modernist tradition of exploring the depths of his own mind, but this kind of prose is only awarded to be labeled and forgotten about. the idea of the author and narrator being actual subjective entities does not mesh well with modern literature fandom

>>24795149
>He's also constantly talked about on /lit/, his popularity endures.
>He thinks those threads are made by multiple people instead of a single pynchfag and advertising companies
NGMI

>>24794396 (OP)
Do americans really speak in ebonics

>>24795058
Cormac mccarthy, you probably heard of him from his wendigoon video

>>24795875
>he thinks those threads are made by shills and not the Pynchmeister himself

>>24795140
>but gen z just finds his humor style cheugy fr.
Zoomers aren't even human, another Pynchon win

>>24795140
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeesh unc, pynchie's bussin' ong. He one skibidi ass blud

>>24797074
Pynch has been suffering from dementia for a long time now and his son has been ghostwriting for him
That's why his books have become somehow even worse than before

>>24798398
lmao filtered