Thread 24840413

IQ test edition
https://www.writingtoiq.com

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(And maybe double-space your WIPs to allow edits if you want 'em.)

Simple guides on writing:
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Are you fags still writing about wizards and dragons? How is you magika system coming along?

>>24840418
No we split from the webnovel sloppers a while back

I don't think it's true that /wng/ stole most of our writers; I think it only stole those writers unwilling to persevere through any legitimate publication process, instead satisfied with rushing their work to an audience.

How to get over fear of the blank page?

>>24840463
>>24840413 (OP)
Who do I trust more, my MENSA membership or
https://www.writingtoiq.com

>>24840463
>Estimated IQ: 75 (below average)

>>24840474
bro thinks testing well means actually being good at doing things

>>24840480
https://www.writingtoiq.com relies on tests and test results for its algo I presume.
Tell me, what do you personally think of the shanty.

>>24840484
It's good for someone with below average IQ

>>24840413 (OP)
iq 148
>kek

>>24840413 (OP)
It's bullshit.

>>24840413 (OP)
Corncob BTFO

It would actually be cool to try to use NLP/LLMs to quantify eloquence

>>24840571
Ya I can't wait for a world without meaning or mystery of any kind. Will be super fun to just be a coomer and a consooomer

>>24840582
Well they already solved the mechanics of beauty and humor and it didnt hurt anything

>>24840587
They who?

>>24840474
Got AI to generate this gem that scored 62:

The man was on the way to work. He felt that his work was not as good as it could be. He did not know why he went there. He did not know what he saw. He had much time, but the time was not his own. This was a bad thing for him. He was one of many people. They all went that way. Every day was the same. He said, “I have to get there. It is time for work.” He thought, “My day must be different. I must do what is right for me.”

Then he saw a new thing. It was a small box. He said, “What is that?” He did not know what to do. He went over to look. The box was old. It had been there for a long time. The man put his hand on it. The cold was a shock. He was not there to see a thing like this. He was to go to work. He said, “I will not go.” He took the box. He put the box with him. He said, “I will take this with me. It is a new thing for me.” He felt good. The day was now a new day. He went back. He went the other way.

He went to his house. The house was small, but it was his. He knew he would feel better there. He did not have to think about the other people. He put the small box on the table. He said, “This is what I have now.” He was happy to see what was in the box. He looked. It was black. It was much older than he was. He felt many things about the life he had. He felt as if he could make a new way for him. The box was the most important thing. He did not know what was to come, but he had it. He was free.

do I win?

>>24840618
Honestly sounds kino

69 lmao poniefags btfo

>>24840413 (OP)

I posted my first chapter and for 105.

I feel like that's correct. But I'm also concerned that maybe that's a little too high to be accessible to a general audience.

>>24840413 (OP)

I posted my first chapter and got 105.

I feel like that's correct. But I'm also concerned that maybe that's a little too high to be accessible to a general audience.

>>24840424
i was initially interested in that thread because it seemed like it would be about all forms of independent/web publishing and a place for people to find and talk about various genre/publishing niches but it's like 100% focused on making litRPG slop and gaming the royal road algorithm. i was hoping there'd be a thread on here about other forms of slop like romantsy.

>>24840649
Too high, needs to be at most 90.

>>24840743
Me too, i tried asking people if they posted their stories on non slop sites, but no one answered.

reminder that if you have aphantasia, it's already over. give up.

>>24840619
bix nood kek

>>24840472
Find whatever you *are* willing to do, and do that until the other things get easier, for example:
>stream-of consciousness writing practice
>fan fiction instead of original story ideas
>describing an existing scene from real life or a movie instead of one from your head
>go back to something you wrote before and rewrite it
>take a page or paragraph of someone else's work and modify it until it's unrecognizable
>take a page or paragraph of someone else's work and transcribe it, verbatim, thinking about what they did and why

Somewhere on that ladder you'll find something that doesn't throw up psychological blocks.

If you have "writers block" or don't know what to write, you have not outlined enough. Beat sheets exist for a reason. Proven chapter and scene outlines exist for a reason. Apply them to your story.
You should, at least in your mind have the climax of your story as the guiding light on where to go.

>>24840472
Read Ray Bradbury's 'Zen in the Art of Writing'. Unironically.

Board tourist here. Will I be fine with the /wg/ resource pastebin to get back into the groove of writing, or are there any other craft books that anons are keen to recommend?

>>24841018
Bradbury sucked ass, no way in hell am I ruining my writing by reading that shit.

>>24841394
Many anons including myself encourage you to ignore charlatans and just write. That being said, Garner's Modern English Usage is a good resource

>>24841018
Somewhat related.
But there any great writer that said they owed their career to Stephen King's On Writing, Ursula K. Le Guin's Steering the Craft, and other such books?

>>24841394
Read the book above your post

>>24840413 (OP)
Copy/pasted this little paragraph I typed in another thread on this board.
>>24841482

Monster
What are you even

>2 rejections after a month
>Just a generic reply that the project isn't for them
>Waiting for another 3
It's over

>>24840472
Make it smaller. Write in a pocket sized spiral bound notepad if the full letter sized page is too overwhelming.

>>24840931
I can’t imagine what life would be like with that.

Going to try another writeathon next month, so I austically ranked my current options assuming I'd start fresh but instead came to an unpleasant stand off. Either I
>finish the story that has been dragging endlessly for the last year
or
>swap its theme & setting and actually finish it, at the "cost" of it probably being less well written
all drafts should be a shade of poorly written but fuck me that it requires a complete change in time periods to allow myself to believe that

>write erotic slop
>Have a buddy draw a cover with a cute anime girl.
>Publish it .99 cents
>600 people buy it
I guess gooners really are easy to please

>>24842132
>writeathon
Go back to your containment thread

How do writers mentally switch gears to get back to writing a story?
After watching a great movie I'm not sure about how I should return to the mindset I had when I was writing my story. Any tips?

>>24840743
>>24840835
That thread is hyperfocused on RR because that's where all the big money is. If you have more modest aims or are weeb enough to work for pennies, you have... not many places on 4chan to talk about your stuff, to be honest.

>>24842333
>write erotic slop
How many words?
>publish it .99 cents
Where?
Unironically. I have a backlog of at least a dozen smut works that I'd love to publsih.

>>24842404
I wish I could leave this place. I don't belong here. You people are polluting my soul.

>>24842414
Join the club. Smut's the only thing I've managed to practice and I am extremely good at it. Indecisiveness has slayed me. How I wish I could reach the highs others can.

>>24842422
>>24842422
Get thee behind me, you loose-livered profilgate

L’leyowyn the water elf raised up the mighty great sword Targol and cleaved open the skull of fire breathing dragon. “Burnbringer the dragon shall breathe fire no more,” said L’leyowyn. She struggled to pull her blade free from the dragon’s thick skull. As she pulled at the handle her large breasts swayed enticingly and the loose chainmail draped over them jangled.
“Tarry not, L’leyowyn. There are terrible beasts here, far worse than fire breathing dragons,” said Bromlar, the dwarf. He stood beside the elf and admired the view as she struggled to wrench her blade free from the fire breathing dragon’s skull, which she had lodged her blade into to kill him.
Finally, she tore her great sword, named Targol, free, and a geyser of hot blood shot from the wedge-shaped crevice it had carved into the dragon’s skull. L’leyowyn sighed in relief and hefted the blade over her shoulder. “How much worse can anything get around here?”
Then they banged.

>>24842414
Elaborate.

>>24842386
I wouldn't even call it hyperfocused. The other sites are just tiny or mostly fanfiction. They honestly get mentioned proportionally to their size. The one real competing web novel site is Webnovel and thats literally a Chinese site full of Chinese-style stories, and 4chan is an English site (supposedly).

It's like saying a self publishing discussion is 'hyperfocused' on Amazon KDP. You're right...its just kind of a weird thing to point out or be surprised by. It's the only viable option.

>>24842456
If it is not readily apparent to you then there is no point in my explaining further. Go back to your anime and Pynchon novels.

>>24842422
that's why i was checking out this thread and the WN thread actually, i was hoping there'd be resources/discussion about smut peddlers because i think that's my best bet given how much ERP i've done over the years

>>24842486
(Paid) smut does much better on Amazon than the web. People looking up porn on the internet generally want it free.

Pretty sure most digital publishers allow erotic content. You just gotta avoid tripping their AI censorship, everything needs to be "empowering" and "explicitly consensual"

>>24840424
>stole most of our writers
/wg/ never had writers.

>>24842493
>>24842506
yeah i figured the end goal was being comfy on Amazon making very simple normiecore smut but i wasn't sure what the road to that looked like, or if there was any potential in catering to weird niche fetishes the way artists do

>>24842486
Word of warning, ERP and smut writing are two very different beasts. First off the bat you might realize that ERP is extremely guilty of head hunting and eschews most of the buildup and interaction that should happen, if they include any at all.

>>24842511
>weird niche fetishes
depends. weird legal or weird illegal?

>>24842515
that's where my interest began, i actually haven't ERPed in years because i like the buildup and interaction but it's such a niche area to begin with so when you say you're looking for more story you're cutting down your potential partners to single digit percents lol.

>>24842516
i guess both? i wasn't aware that purely written smut could be illegal outside of all the debanking shit where Mastercard is setting the limits for what kind of furry sex you're allowed to depict.

>>24842524
>in years
>single digits
Brother, as someone who went back to the mines recently and came back out, let me tell you that got even worse. It's no longer single digits, it approaches the hundredths, and that's only if you manage to get the right partner with the right character. You're better off writing smut, it's less work for more reward.
>i wasn't aware that purely written smut could be illegal outside of all the debanking shit
Being debanked is pretty fucking horrible.

>>24842538
well debanked was the wrong word but i mean how all those websites were removing porn artists and changing their TOS and stuff because they were getting pressured by payment processors.

>>24842524
>i wasn't aware that purely written smut could be illegal
im not saying writing it is illegal. im saying that most major publishers won't allow glorified smut depictions of acts that are illegal in real life. they will often allow really weird shit that isn't illegal though

>>24842620
yeah that was part of what i was thinking about, obviously Amazon isn't going to be selling cunny stories so finding that line of the other weird shit is tricky, the rules about furry porn for instance were oddly specific in this article i read that was picking apart the terms that i think Mastercard was using to push Valve to remove a bunch of games earlier this year

>>24842479
>4chan is an English site
Wrong, 4cucks is an indian site

>>24842670
>obviously Amazon isn't going to be selling cunny stories
Which instantly shuts me out of the market.

Yes but what if 1,000 year old vampires?

>>24842129
it's the same as life without it, except you think about things instead of picturing about things

Please give me your thoughts. Good night.

>>24842792
(also posted on https://medium.com/@panosfrag/chapter-xi-415637aafb91, in case you want to read more for some reason)

>>24842792
>abovedeck
Stopped reading right there, learn to spell check before posting

>>24842695
i'm not above it myself but i wouldn't want to make it the focus of what i'm doing, i guess you'd be down to some obtuse methods like crypto for anything payment processors don't allow? but then at that point why bother, unless there are a lot of suspiciously wealthy cunnyseiurs who can offset that bullshit like how there are artists who cater to furries with weird fetishes.

>>24842871
I wouldn't even know how to set up the infrastructure for that, and I missed out on the window to buy bitcoin in 2010.

what's stopping you from publishing your slop as a webnovel then editing it into a proper novel?

>>24842883
shameful

>>24842883
It's not big enough to be a webnovel.

>>24842909
Your writing is shit and publishing it is like posting a picture of your crusty asshole online. If you felt the appropriate amount of shame your work would never see the light of day.
Since you don't feel shame, you might as well capitalize.

>>24840413 (OP)
I think I scored a 138 on an IQ test. Sorry if my intellect cannot be fully incapsulated by asinine little pattern recognition puzzles.

>>24842367
?? are webnggrs having a writeathon?

>>24840499
All you needed to do that was see what he has as a barometer:

>Stephen Hawking, using his last paper as the sample, achieves an IQ of 151.
>Alexander Hamilton, using Federalist paper number 6 as the written sample, achieves an IQ of 166.
>Testing different CNN reporters using their articles, I got IQs ranging from 102 to 127.
>Testing different 5G-coronavirus conspiracy theorists using posts from one of their Facebook groups, I got IQs ranging from 75 to 89.
Muh big government advocates and government stooges good, muh skeptics bad.

I was able to get some comfy slop switched from 80 to 120 by forcing in some unwieldy words and hard to parse phrasing in a couple of sentences.

>>24842792
So is this a world where normal firearms aren't a thing? And instead they have these magic firearms powered by whale oil? Hmm could be an interesting premise.

>CNN reporters
>102-127
lol
lmao even

>>24840413 (OP)
>84 IQ
:(

>>24842792
>sperm oil
>dark, oiled wood
>wooden rod
>pipe
>brass-bound hole
>ramrod
>ball's locked in place
>dripping wet

could you be a little less obvious about your BBC fetish?

Good news /wg/! Somehow /wng/ has gotten even worse than this antiquated thread so I've decided to return.
How's everyone doing? Are we pro trad pub or pro self pub these days?

Why I can't get people to publish my poems
Maybe they just suck?

>>24843241
What went wrong there this time?

Since /wng/ is dead, would this be the appropriate thread for talking about the upcoming RR writathon?
>>24843294
The RI spammer kept spamming more and more. Some people wanted to split the thread to get away from it, but supposedly jannies deleted the thread. And the RI spammer then made the new /wng/ thread with just spam. For some reason that's considered okay.

>>24842825
Based ESL

>>24842792
ai

>>24843391
>Since /wng/ is dead
>>24843241
>/wng/ has gotten even worse
you have to go back

Im writing a nonfiction book (handbook) which I plan to be extremely graphically heavy. What is the rule regrading which photos/symbols I can/cannot use, especially government symbols (for example, HAZMAT placards)?

Also where/how do I source these to put them in a Word document? Should I just screenshot the highest res photo I can find, cut it out in paint, and paste it in?

If an open submissions call mentions nothing about simultaneous submissions either way, should I assume they do or they don't allow them?

Working on a novel. Would like to hear some feedback on the first couple paragraphs of my introduction.

Being 14 and a dropout and having no parents and living on the streets, you'd probably think my life was pretty shitty, but it was actually real cool. On Fridays, I'd usually find myself hanging out and chilling outside of Burger joints, doing shit like knocking over trash cans and spitting on people's faces as they walked out the door. Though, it really pissed people off and I admit I kinda got roughed up a couple times, it was a pretty cool way to hang out in between doses. See, I didn't always have the cash for my Uppers. I was into, like, high-quality shit, none of that low-class shit those fucking faggots and niggers did all the time. I needed good quality high-as-a-kite shit, but it was pretty expensive shit, see, so it took me a while to gather up the money to pay for it. Usually I'd scrape up the cash by like, pretendin' to bum a light or asking the time off of some walker-by (usually one of those smug-ass business dudes, since those fags can't fight for shit).

Once I got all my money and shit, I'd take it to Greg, my dealer. He was 17 and also a dropout, and I always thought he was real handsome and blond and hot, but not in a faggy way or nothing. He's just, like, the kinda good-looking guy that you can tell chicks are all over him and he's probably swimming in pussy, sorta like me. I get so much fucking pussy man, you don't even know. Greg had this real bad slur though and pretty much sounded like a retard. Chicks apparently dig tards though, 'cause whenever I see a guy acting all tarded, he's always got bitches swooning over him and shit. Fucking chicks, man. I really hate them, but I love goin' in on their pussies. I love pussy man, it's so fucking good on my dick and shit. Can't stand the chicks, but the pussy is good. That's why I hate fags so much. You have to be some sort of a fucking tard to wanna turn down that sorta shit, y'know? I've never gotten that shit. What a bunch of faggots.

>>24843418
I've never used AI in my writing. My bad for using dashes, I guess.

Would anybody like to read the produce of my last two days? Tell me what they think, even? It's a little raw at parts, I will admit, but it's far from unreadable.
It pertains an amorous scene of a brother and sister laying in bed. It's not lewd or anything.

>>24843478
It's quite good at emulating the parlance of a retarded 14 year old, but unfortunately, I -- and I would posit most other people -- don't want to read books written in the parlance of a retarded 14 year old.
Have you considered 3rd person narration?

>

>>24840413 (OP)

Sample of my writing

>150 exceptionally gifted

Sample of Brothers Karamazov

>116 (high intelligence)

lol, get rekt bitch

Repost of mine, but really ought to inverse this to happy joy land and see if it still agrees.
>105 for a prose original work
>94 for a lewd fanfic greentext which bumped up to 96 putting it to prose

>>24843478

I think you're using too many conjunction for natural speech.

Being 14, dropout, having no parents, living on the streets, you'd probably think my life was pretty shitty... but it was actually fire.

This seems more natural to me.

>>24843444
>you have to go back
lol jannies deleted two separate /wng/ rebakes
looking like we get to be brothers, again. the slop shall invade once more

just learned how to show instead of tell
also learned when telling is fine

What's the most natural way to integrate leveling up and getting stronger into a story?

>>24843391
>For some reason that's considered okay.
jannies have pet schizos they protect because they think it's funny when schizos shit up boards/threads they don't browse or care about.

>>24844255
The same way you would level up and get stronger in a classic grandpa MMORPG. Go to one of the strongest areas and grind the monsters for xp. Maybe have a prompt nudging the protag to move to another area if they stay long enough a la Mabinogi, and offer a little variety for the reader. If I was writing some trapped in the system isekai story, I'd probably apply a lot of my Mabinogi/FF11 experiences that way.

>>24843912
literal gobbledygook. "there will be rationing outside of the black market where there will be rationing." "fair no better." "fending off a siege of raiders with hospitality." "carnage of crimes against entities." what, nigga?

>>24840413 (OP)
> As this is an attempt to estimate IQ, I find it meet to consider intelligence in my sample text. Separate from IQ, I have made attempts to estimate the intelligence of persons myself; without any scientific examinations or anything of that nature, it must be a qualitative and not a quantitative endeavor, and generally, one must estimate the intelligence of an individual relative to some other individual. The best method in my opinion to estimate intelligence is to evaluate conversation with said individual, preferably debate regarding an intellectual matter. It is more difficult, as conversation with oneself is not really possible, to estimate one's own mental ability. The obvious solution is to estimate it my observing how one keeps up or fails to keep up with those with whom one has been conversing. My explorations of the topic have led me to conclude that intelligence is a function of two surprising variables: memory and vocabulary.

> 154

I'm a retard.

>>24843391
>my hero fang yuan mindbroke this pseud this hard
Nice to see it was a nothingburger

>>24843478
living on the streets is not cool in any circumstance. if you ever did it you would know. also, neither you nor greg, your dealer, is hot. so your story just is not believable enough. don't lose hope though. just change a few things or delete a few lines and you should be ok

>>24843496
not lewd, my ass. why would you put so much effort into something like this?

>>24842998
it really is supposed to be a novelty for all characters involved as such thing had not been seen in their corner of the world, and it acts as a major milestone concerning their struggle

>>24842825
>ESL retard
you really should go back to worshipping cows and shitting on the streets before you try to correct white people's english

>>24844563
Meds

>>24842871
people usually use ko-fi for writing commissions

>>24844592
>>24844563
kek

>>24843483
I know what you did last summer

>>24844294
Yeesh you're right and there are more fuckups, but hospitality is meant to be a joke. Guess it was too high iq for you :^)

>>24843496
Ai

>>24843483
>dashes
it's not just that.

>>24844712
Then please do tell because I've never used AI (for writing, that is) while I do see walls of text generated by it on social media

>>24844782
Did u write this as well >>24843496

>>24842384
Go for a walk, and then sit down and write.

>>24844840
I tried that only for my drunk landlord to swing a bottle at me.

>>24843294
>>24844364
>>my hero fang yuan mindbroke this pseud this hard
mindbroke? lol no, RI spammer literally broke that guys ebussy, it was hilarious

/wng/ is kill? Or again the double thread issue

>/wng/
It's over. To the person who recommended The Undying Immortal System I will give it a go.

>>24844532
It was a dream so it doesn't count
did you like it?

>>24844809
?

>>24844896
>drunk landlord
Tell your mom I said what's up for me, thanks bro.

posting response here because it's about writing and the thread 404'd while i was in the middle of slopping out this reply

>>24844906
There are plenty of successful web novels that don't tack on vidyagaem mechanics, so don't feel forced to have them if you don't want to.

That said, you've read 0.5 litrpg works ever (and DCC is a comedic/parody one too) so it's pretty natural that you wouldn't have a good feel for how numberslop can be integrated into serious story. Reading more stuff to get a broader view of the genre is a good idea, but don't head straight for the top patreon earners or whatever unless you actually WANT to read number-go-up monster of the week fightslop a la solo leveling. For something that integrates "system" mechanics into a more serious story I'd suggest reading Worth The Candle or maybe Blue Core.

In terms of light novels it basically all originates from western authors aping isekai anime/lns that used vidya mechanics like Overlord or Konosuba that you may already be familiar with. Actually read Overlord either way, it's really good

>>24844960
No problem, I hate it too.

>>24844962
All successful *western* webnovels do, however, insist on progression mechanics. Nothing like what you see in Japan.

>>24840474
I enjoy that pasting the text from the page results in 166.

>>24844962
Just make your system meta.
>MC defeats alley ruffians attacking the elf damsel
[+1 plot progression]
>MC engages elf romantically
[3 readers have unfollowed -0.1$]
>MC name drops the fiction title
[aura farmed, +3 charisma]
>narration uses an em dash
[fiction flagged for review]

>>24844972
Yeah that is sadly true. There are no western webnovels about the characters just going on a journey or some shit.

>>24840474
>MENSA
t. joiner

>>24844993
I can feel the hugo already

>>24840474
I dunno man, you're still on 4chan. I can't feel like this is a place where a very smart person would be.

>>24844997
So I don't think it's good advice to say that there are successful web novels without vidya mechanics because most people don't see much of a difference between one or the other. You're kinda forced to follow a plot that doesn't even exist in Overlord or Konosuba, the closer comparison is gook shit like Solo Leveling.

>>24843478
>14 year old robbing businessmen by kicking their ass
unless this is supposed to be an unreliable narrator then it's not gonna work

>>24844915
Am I going to hate myself for asking what RI is?

>>24845012
>Solo Leveling
silly ass story. i was very unsurprised when i found out it was korean.

>>24845012
>most people don't see much of a difference between one or the other
what the fuck are you talking about anon.
there is an insanely huge difference between fantasy swordman getting the blessing of the wizard of the grove of the land of the elvesand finally being able to withstand the dragon's hellish flames long enough to slay it vs chud the gamer grinding kobolds until he gets a text popup reading [kobold slayer: slay 100 kobolds. reward: +75% fire resistance]

>>24845038
yeah but nobody reads the former

>>24845038
>chud the gamer grinding kobolds until he gets a text popup reading [kobold slayer: slay 100 kobolds. reward: +75% fire resistance]
There are actual novels written today where this happens? Did I read that right?

>>24845040
People absolutely READ the former. It's harder to write well and at high volume so it's less common among the new-and-trending webslop algo lists but it's represented among the most successful stories with stuff like practical guide to evil.

>>24844782
Paste it into one of those AI detector sites and see what it tells you.

My writing has taken an interesting turn in these last few months and I don't know how to rectify it. Whenever I sit down to do prose I always seem to end up either writing an essay on the subject at hand, or an essentially Platonic dialogue involving two or more characters. The actual prose seems to come only as an afterthought. I have written about 20,000 words of essay/dialogue punctuated only with the vaguest of details. I never used to have this problem. Any idea what's going on?

/wng/ is dead
long live /wg/

>>24845051
Read, as in past tense, yes. It's not what western webnovels do. There's a lot more variety in the east, ironically.

>>24845060
litrpgbros...

Can webniggers fuck off?

>>24845023
Nah, it's fine, it seems like that guy was only interested in ruining slopper threads
RI is Reverend Insanity, eastern fantasy novel about immortal cultivation
It was cancelled by the chink government for some reason, the insane schizo that keeps posting it says it's good

>>24845076
this is the future anon. if you want a $456,333 kickstarter you should write litrpg too

>>24845076
we'd like to but nigger jannies killed the thread because RIsperg kept sperging out and making split threads

>>24845060
what in the fucking fuck is this
please tell me you're trolling me

>>24845090
this story made millions and im completely serious

>>24845060
it's excessive but stuff like this would be cool if it were like .hack and actually took place inside of a VR MMO.

>>24844953
:)

>>24845076
mad that the real writers have returned??

>>24845076
you wouldn't fuck off out of our thread, why should we?

>>24845023
Reverend Insanity. The #1 best webnovel.

>>24845106
p-peak...

>>24845095
>this story made millions
Okay, it's definitely over.

>>24845090
that was beneath the dragoneye moons.
if you'd like a more popular example of the genre, here's a chapter from book 1 of Primal Hunter, which earns $80,000 per MONTH on patreon.
apparently this author has an ongoing habit of dedicating entire chapters to nothing but lists of level-up options although I haven't personally read it

>>24845111
has been for ages
can't beat em, join em. the slopbucks will be mine

>>24845098
Somehow the Vr MMO webnovels are even worse

>>24845113
>which earns $80,000 per MONTH on patreon.
which he's said is irrelevant compared to his amazon earnings fyi

>>24844962
Thanks, I didn't think anyone saw it before it went away. I've read a few other Western ones that weren't liberalized this vein. I didn't like them. The light similar sort of light novels aren't all that better. I've skimmed through a lot, but that was several years ago. I wasn't thinking of it when I wrote that post, though now I've remembered that it'd probably be closest to some of the unorthodox self-published fantasy I've read.

>>24845113
>which earns $80,000 per MONTH on patreon.
please stop, last post was enough

wait until this thread finds out about 50 shades of gray......

>>24845125
50 shades is a masterpiece compared to this

>>24845126
which is why it made 100 times more
even shitty slop sells though

>>24845125
Old geezer doesn't even know about acotar / fourth wing.

>>24845113
the question to ask is:
do they enjoy it because it is slop, or in spite of it?
i have a feeling it's the second, even if the audience thinks it's the first.

>>24845023
>>24845106
Reverend Insanity was banned by the CCP alongside many others in part due to the actions of Dead Wife Demon Venerable (the author of Soul Land and a member of the CCP) stemming from his uncontrollable envy and seethe towards good webnovels.

>>24845132
im not sure you could fundamentally make this kind of story not slop. so...

Happy Halloween, writers. No trick tonight. Here's your treat. It's the only story I've ever published (so far): flash fiction about phobias. 'Tis the season.
https://blackharepress.com/blogs/dark-moments/mathematic-anxiety
Boo!

>>24845113
>>24845060
Maybe I judged Chicklit too harshly...

>>24845113
This is better than that gayass Victoria story shilled on here the past few threads.

>>24845132
It’s definitely in spite of the slop. There are even sloppier sloppas out there that are totally unsuccessful.

Slop is probably what gets em in the door though

>nooo stuff I don't like gets popular :(
Get over it

Why aren't (YOU) writing a litrpg and becoming a rich and famous author?

>>24845060
This confirms it for me. Literature is over as an artform. There is no way for it to ever return to its glory days. Everyone was so worried about AI, and it turns out human writers are the ones who killed it.

Is /wg/ the new /wng/ ?
Can I post based RI ?

>>24845149
>it turns out human writers are the ones who killed it.
Come now, don't be like that.
The readers are also to blame.

>>24845144
The stuff that becomes popular is representative of the current state of cultural and intellectual development. If unreadable shit becomes popular, then it is indicative that we are in a cultural and intellectual dark age (as also confirmed by the present state of film, music, the fine arts, fashion, etc.)

>>24845152
are you writing RI? no? then take it to /rg/ - reading general.
or sffg

>>24845138
theoretically it is possible to write a good litrpg, but i think you're right that at least some of the problems are fundamental to the genre.
i just need to know if the genre itself is the only food anyone wants to buy, or if its just the only thing anyone is actually selling.

>>24845156
Get over it

>>24845154
Fair enough, but the readers don't exactly know better since most of them are barely literate. Authors at least have an theoretical artistic duty to honor the written word.

>>24845163
the written word is for entertaining people not whatever pretentious shit youre imagining
get over it grandpa

>>24845132
well the only series in the genre i read was Unsouled and i liked in in spite of the litRPG slop, i felt like if he had just oriented the power elements around the story vs anime/game like leveling up it would have felt more natural. like the protag gets quite a few useful tools near the end of the series which aren't just him being more powerful, stuff more in that realm vs uhhh his power number went up because reasons

>>24845160
Nah, you get over it

>>24845165
Unsouled isn't based on anime/games though. It's based on half copied ideas from Chinese xianxia novels which are based extremely loosely on taoism + journey to the west.

I'm going to toss this away and rethink my plans, but I guess I'll post it anyway.
>>24844962
>>24845122

>>24845173
Ai

Fuck I thought someone had a melty and that was the reason behind the thread moving so fast but no, the websloppers have come back

>>24845173
Christ, how do people come up with such dialogue..

>>24845179
Oh don't worry. Someone did have a melty.

>>24845170
frfr on god twin

>>24845179
Not by choice unfortunately

>>24845171
okay but nigga you know that it's all shounenslop, like everything in that is just DBZ

>>24845173
>Zesch
Stopped reading right there

if you faggots think you can write better than /wng/ then post your work. i bet not one of it can even be half as good as Primal Hunter's

Not genius level, but it's interesting how accurate it is.

blame RIfag for the sudden death of /wng/. he is as Paradise Lost’s Satan.

>>24845189
i am definitely a better writer than whoever writes that, but im not sure if i'm a better author. millions of dollars is hard to argue with.

>>24845198
you're neither a better writer nor author nor any other cope metric you want to use

>>24845173
AI

/wng/ isn't even dead you just dupe posted again. just don't dupe post retard

I've seen what gets posted here. Primal Hunter's prose is unironically better

>>24845200
no, i'm a lot better at writing. and i may be a better author, im just not sure brcause i haven't really tried yet. i wouldn't be surprised if i was, or if i wasn't. it could go either way.

if a new /wng/ thread is baked, please bake into it a curse of gonorrhea to RIfag, meltyposters, and other such fags who cause 90% of thread deletions due to their evil desires, so that they will think twice to do so or suffer from the demon of shit for a year straight.

>>24845214
you're not better at writing lol

>>24845213
It's just not. Once you've reached the point where you're just listing stats for pages and pages like you're producing a fucking technical manual, you've ceased writing anything that can even generously be called literature.

>>24845216
ghonorrhea causes pain from pissing, not shitting. an editor would have caught this.

>>24845209
Every time someone makes a new thread RIfag makes another and then the jannies nuke both

Primal Hunter only makes the most because it's old as fuck and caught the wave early. The writing in more recent litrpg successes is much better, as expected

>>24845219
yeah cool story sweetie, i'm just saying on a sentence to sentence level PH writing is at least smooth to read. What gets posted here is jarring and awkward as fuck and I can't go a full paragraph with wondering wtf the author is doing

>>24845216
*Crohn’s disease

It really is funny how /wg/ suddenly became 20x faster
The retard thread was really that much bigger?

>>24845225
>smooth to read
So is a fucking cookbook you retard. That's not the only or even a primary criteria for "good" prose in a literary sense.

>>24845227
the thread where people actually read and write is faster, yes

>>24845229
Flow and clarity are literally beginner-tier hurdles. If you can't do that, which no one in this thread can, you can't even call yourself an intermediate writer.
You suck at writing. PH author is better than you

>>24845229
and yet you still can't even get yourself up to that level

>>24842993
I CALLED IT HAHAHA

u-u-u-u-uh oh, meltie

>>24845238
you didn't, tards just double posted a second time which got them both nuked a second time. if someone baked a new /wng/ without a dupe it would stay up. im enjoying the /wg/ arc right now though

>>24845218
i don't think you understand exactly why i am better, but that's okay!
>is at least smooth to read
it is, i agree. i'm just a bit smoother.

I've found this reunion very heartwarming! :)

>>24845216
RI poster here. Why am I being constantly blamed for this? I didn't even do anything

>>24845240
>coping this hard
Its over slopbro, enjoy your new home

>>24845240
>a new /wng/ without a dupe
Impossible. Wherever WNG goes, there too shall RI follow. So it shall be and so it has ever been.

>>24845234
>>24845235
Ease of comprehension is more or less a neutral characteristic that has very little to do with overall quality. Some great literature can be easily comprehended. Some great literature can also be very difficult to read. Same for bad literature.

The only reason you'd use it as your defining marker for "good prose" is if you have a very low level of literacy and genuinely are incapable of reading more difficult or complex texts.

>>24845240
>If someone baked a new /wng/ without a dupe
won't happen because RI fag will make another dupe so both get nuked again

>>24845244
Step into traffic

>>24845241
you're not a misunderstood genius, you're just bad at it

>>24845244
Actual RI poster here, ignore the falseflagger. I made the first thread, some other anon made the second one. Not sure why I'm being blamed

>>24845192
Can someone pipe this into it >>24845113
Honestly, I had a sudden realization that porn isn't so bad. I thought that was the lowest standard, but there's a literal abyss of shit taste below that.

Actual ACTUAL RI poster here.
sorry guys i made all the threads but i now realize i was wrong. I Shall Seal The Heavens is better after all. Lord of the Mysteries too.

>>24845252
you make RI thread after RI thread trying to hijack the purpose of /wng/ from discussing and writing wns to one purely dedicated to RI. you are the subversive, sinoid element trying to ruin all things as usual.

>>24845247
Notice how you retardedly changed my words from 'flow and clarity' to 'ease of comprehension'? It's because you can't actually argue against what I said so tried to worm your way into a totally different discussion. /wg/ tards really are something else. Unironically trying to tell me that clarity and flow aren't foundational elements to all (non-experimental) good writing.

I guess I can't expect a non-writer to understand, though.

>>24845251
im not a genius, no. i'm just a writer who happens to be a bit better at writing than most other writers.

>>24845260
>I guess I can't expect a non-writer to understand, though.
they don't read either

AI is an insult now, not a description of what anything is.

b-b-b-but it's okay if the sentences are jarring and don't work together or transition properly, and it's okay if my phrasing is ambiguous and unintentionally difficult to understand. i use big words and my iq is 140 and last week I wrote 300 words (first time in months!) and I'm the real writer here!! go back to your thread!!!!

/wg/bros...
what is our response?...

>>24845252
>>24845257
>>24845258
I sense a conspiracy, what's going on? Could /wg/ itself be a target?

>>24845261
evidently not

>>24845270
he's right about most of the writing that shows up here. but he's wrong about my writing. mine is better.

>>24845271
all the spammers, faggots, and schizos from /wng/ have come with the flood of the general public of /wng/

at least the readercattle are gone

>>24845271
Some schizo took over the thread until it became unusable
And now it's your problem
Sorry anon

>>24845260
>Notice how you retardedly changed my words from 'flow and clarity' to 'ease of comprehension'?
"Clarity" and "ease of comprehension" are literally synonymous you dribbling imbecile.
>Unironically trying to tell me that clarity and flow aren't foundational elements to all (non-experimental) good writing.
They aren't. Some genius writers (Kafka, for example) write simple and direct sentences that flow smoothly and immediately make their meaning understood. Other genius writers (Faulkner, for example) use digressions, tangents, run-on sentences, archaic and heightened poetic language, obtuse references, unreliable or disoriented perspective, unusual or nonstandard syntax, etc. to more aptly convey a certain image, mood, or setting. Clarity and flow are, as I've already said, largely neutral indicators of quality. What matters is execution.

Why do guys hate litrpg and webnovels so much? I am currently reading pic related, it's a litrpg webnovel and kind of a funny meme, but it's better than many modern (fantasy) works written by so called established authors.

>>24845283
>"Clarity" and "ease of comprehension" are literally synonymous you dribbling imbecile.
holy fuck he actually thinks clarity in writing is the same thing as how easy the writing is to comprehend. that's so funny. this is what /wg/ writers are like?

>>24845285
You're really going to make me cite the dictionary definition of "clarity"? That's the level this discussion has sunk to? Fine:

noun
noun: clarity
1. the quality of being coherent and intelligible.
"for the sake of clarity, each of these strategies is dealt with separately"


And now the definition of "comprehensible":

adjective
adjective: comprehensible

able to be understood; intelligible.

As you can see: Synonyms. I'll be accepting my apology now.

Pile in, frens
>>24845289
>>24845289
>>24845289

>>24845284
This is part of why I really don't care for western xianxia slop. Author spent so much time reading MTL'd chinese that he then started imitating its style and repeating the MTLisms in his own writing.

>>24845293
Example?

this guy really pulled out the dictionary as if the dictionary definition is the same thing as how writers use the term when talking about prose
truly fascinating

>>24845293
It is chinese slop, they just changed the names

>>24845291
How has this fag not been permabanned yet holy shit

I'm having fun here anyway. /wg/ was secretly yearning for our return, happy to bring life back to their desiccated thread

>>24845293
>repeating the MTLisms
Such as?

>>24845301
F Gardner did it for years before jannies starting banning him on sight

I just want an actual shill thread like /mu where I can advertise my journey to becoming the Number 1 Author.

Never mind webnovels. How do I learn to write smut?

>>24845317
visit /trash/ writing threads

>>24845317
same way you learn any genre or style: read a lot of it, figure out how it works, write your own

>>24845303
>*Takes a huge RI shaped shit in the middle of your thread*
>"We sure missed you buddy!"

>>24845314
Have you written anything yet? Post some excerpts

>>24845299
You (and your sycophantic buttbuddy who may or may not also be you) are the only two people on the planet who would read "clear writing" and "comprehensible writing" as anything other than absolute synonyms.

Now where's my apology?

Westslop Xianxia doesn’t understand that Taoism is the power system. It’s a core part of the genre. You can’t just cut that part out.

just remember that they're tsunderes. they won't actually say they wanted us back but the attention they shower on us tells the truth

>>24845323
can you stop shitting up the thread with your meltie

>this is a /wg/ product
>they criticize webnovels

What's the best way to study Reverend Insanity to get better at writing?

How do I write a webnovel that will be successful?

Hard mode: no litrpg

Does the the jannies still use the IRC channel? Couldn't we tell them there is a f gardner tier spamtranny shitting up the board?

>>24845332
>hard mode: no litrpg
xianxia
>no xianxia
capeshit or timeloop

>>24845322
Yes. No. I need more time to prepare.

>>24845147
i'm writing a military space opera desu

>>24845335
Harder mode: no xianxia or capshit or timeloop or harem

the depressing part of /wg/ is that they really do think they're great writers and then will post some of the most awkward shit you've ever seen in your life, then say 'filtered' when everyone says it's shit
what's the name of that phenomenon, i'm sure there is one

>>24845332
Publish a Victoria story. Instant RS, guaranteed.

>>24845340
Dooning Krooguh

>>24845339
hmmm, probably just an extremely well executed fantasy isekai then.
>no isekai
monster pov story
>no monster pov
you're killing me man. NONE of those genres inspire you even a little? obviously you can't just write sword and sorcery shit.

>>24845320
In order to cultivate you must first fertilize the soil.

>>24845339
>no harem, no gooner, no coomer slop
Why live

>>24845348
For the challenge

>>24845329
WTF is this crap? Where are the stats? The action? The mechanics? This is just woman slop

It should be legal to remove haremcucks from the premises

>>24845329
grim

>but some of us are better
>just trust me bro

I wish I were able to write romance. It's so fucking boring to me, though.

I don't doubt at least one /wg/ user can write better prose than Primal Hunter. That really isn't hard. The issue is that they don't know how to tell a story and capture someone's attention and hold it. Writing a purely a masturbatory act to them.

I repent, /wg/. I am a slopper no more.
My story works better as a novel than a web serial anyways.

>>24845387
It's still genreslop toxic waste.

>>24845392
>It's something that people want to read so it's not allowed here.

litrpg is the future. Adapt or die

>>24845284
>>24845408
kek I see it now

>>24845284
>>24845408
Oh no no no no no

Seriously though. My western Xianxia setting is a WESTERN Xianxia setting. Pardner.

>>24845382
i think im probably a beetter storyteller too.

>>24845440
any lynch mobs forcing chinese cultivators to work on the spirit railroad or get hanged?

>>24845408
If you actually want to read something like this, Diary of a Dead Wizard

>>24845295
>>24845312
NTA
in a flash, light snap, face full of shock, but really it's just the whole thing
I read some MTL every once in a while and this reeks of it

>>24845443
It's a given that people who write pretentious shit have huge egos, so of course you think you're good at something with absolutely zero evidence to back it up
You can say you're good at storytelling when you have an audience gushing over how engaging your stories are. Not before

>>24845329
A bit purple at times but I liked it.
guess I am a courtroom dramafag

>>24845446
I'll check it out. Thanks

>>24845329
this is like
a parody of a parody of a parody of a regency-era drama novel

>>24845445
In this scenario the competing rail companies would rather use their own slaves than outside forces to prevent sabotage. If there are even other races. A lot of times only Chinese people exist in Xianxia.

Seriously though, I was going to write a “Xianxia” where everything is “translated”. Sects become orders, clans become houses, cultivators are called warriors or some shit, clan seniors are called knights, etc.

>>24845446
Interesting

>>24845451
Those are all proper English expressions. I see nothing wrong there.

I'm an old cranky boomer (29) and so I'm out of the loop. Is a "web novel" just basically anime/manga shit ostensibly packaged in a novel format?

I tried to google it but the definition just says any novel that's first published on the internet, and obviously people here are using it in a more narrow sense than that.

>>24845454
>people who write pretentious shit
an illustrious group to which, unfortunately, i do not belong.

>>24845476
there's the technical definition, which is what you saw. and then there is the "most of it is this way" definition, which is video game/anime slop

>>24845476
web novel can just be a normal novel, doesn't have to be anime/manga stuff like you described. I'm basically just writing mine like it was a normal novel, I'm not bothering with trad or selfpub and just putting it out there. Just want to tell a standalone one and done story, maybe down the line I might make a continuation a la Messiah or Children of Dune but I'm putting everything I always wanted to tell in one story and finishing it.

>>24845476
>packaged in a novel format?
No, it's serialized fiction that gets updates X times per week. The zoomieshit equivalent of Dickens newspaper serials, I guess.
Obviously only viable in specific genres, but it's maybe the most accessible form of publishing in the modern era. An author with absolutely zero contacts/nepotism/whatever launched on Royalroad recently and grew to a 30k USD a month patreon in like 100 days of posting. Just by posting a story people wanted to read

>>24845476
The most popular web novels exist within their own particular shared culture which yes is heavily influenced by anime/manga. A lot of the early English writers from the current cultural moment would have started started by reading translated japanese web novels, since the medium got big there long before it got popular on the English web.

>>24845480
You write genre fic and say you're a good storyteller without having readers who like your writing? That's a whole other level of delusional. At least pseuds can lie to themselves about readers being filtered

>>24845510
i said im probably a good storyteller. key word you're leaving out. there are some readers who like my writing.

>>24845487
Who?

>>24845516
https://graphtreon.com/creator/ArcaneCadence
Zoom out on the graph. It really is astonishing and an edge case even among edge cases. Blew up like no other writing project on the internet ever has

>>24845520
It's especially funny because most of the discourse I see online is how it's kinda mid

>>24845524
i only read the first chapter so i cant speak to the actual quality, but it seemed pretty standard. i suspect it was largely just hype building on hype.

>>24845536
Nah, that logic really doesn't hold. Because the moment it hit the trending page it started pulling in unbelievable growth. Like a thousand followers in a single day, and that was when it definitely wasn't a known quantity, like 2 weeks after it came out. I'm sure the crazy success added some extra success on top, like this discussion right here acting as an ad, but even from the start it performed like no other story did.
There's some X factor and I don't know what it is

>>24845545
The skeptic in me says the writer had bought just the right amount of fake followers and then things snowballed.

>>24845557
I understand the skepticism, but as a royal retard I watched it happen. The numbers all lined up perfectly naturally. The follower:patreon ratio was high but consistent, the growth snowballed as expected the higher it got on trending, so on.
You can buy fake followers but buying fake patreon paypigs makes no sense. And even if that was a thing, the comment/activity/engagement metrics all lined up too, both on RR and Patreon. The discord has a shitload of members and they yap all day. The author posted to ScribbleHub and then it blew up there, with like 300 pages of discussion already. It performs on every site it went on
It really just does have the X factor

>>24845562
>The author posted to ScribbleHub and then it blew up there, with like 300 pages of discussion already.
Lol, sorry, I meant SpaceBattles. Which is a forum-style creative writing site. But it also did really well on ScribbleHub for a non-smut story on a smut site

Wasn't that guy an already established author? Just using another pen name

>>24845565
Yes, obviously the author isn't new. You can tell that by the writing. The point is you don't need gay nepotism or masturbatory marketing where your buttbuddies shout you out. He just posted and it blew the fuck up on every single site, organically.
I think he ran a RR-specific site ad. But that's normal and would account for maybe 100 followers tops

it’s joever
my writing is cheeks

>>24845573
>don't need gay nepotism or masturbatory marketing where your buttbuddies shout you out
Idk about that, he is part of the discord cabal right? I would not be surprised he is in cahoots with the owners of the site (they're on the server too) to artificially boost himself

>>24845585
No, he joined only after he blew up
t. in that discord

>>24845585
>I would not be surprised he is in cahoots with the owners of the site (they're on the server too) to artificially boost himself
also, what? how? this makes no sense at all. the only way to artificially boost is shoutouts, and there were no shout outs. you think they waved their magic wands and made thousands of people follow that story? I understand skepticism but that's not skepticism, that's schizophrenia

I finished a story and I feel sick to my stomach for how lazily I wrote it. I let myself down bad bros.

>>24845597
You let your bros at /wg/ down

>>24845595
>wave magic wand
>set story's reader count to a higher number than it is
alakazam

>>24845607
yeah so the royalroad admins also waved their wand and gave him a 20k usd patreon in a few weeks?
Like I said, this is actual schizophrenia, not skepticism

>>24845524
You will find this with many, many massively popular novels. Much of their success is just momentum building on momentum.

>/wng/ and /wg/ linked up
>post rate skyrockets
yeah I'm thinking we're back

>>24845607
That would honestly be more impressive. 5k fake followers, 5k real followers, yet 3k patreons? 60% of the followers became pay piggies?

>>24845593
He was already part of the Ink server way before that, but with another name
>T. Knower

>>24845614
even so, all engagement metrics line up. the follower->patreon conversion is high even for how big he is. and was from the very start to now. it's not fake, you need to be schizo to think that

>>24845608
The type of person to give money to a webnovel writer is not the type of person to think critically enough to notice fudged numbers.

>>24845619
are you saying the patreon numbers were fudged too? I don't even understand your line of thought

>>24845621
you don't understand he can't comprehend the idea of something he thinks is mediocre could become massively successful so it must be astroturfed and fake and jews

>>24845621
I'm saying the powers that be at RR could easily fake numbers and draw in a ton of braindead retards to give real money thinking they're supporting something genuinely popular. Not saying they are doing that, just that they could

>>24845623
but that's so bizarre to me because you just have to look at Avengers

>>24845624
okay, yes, theoretically. but if that WAS true, I addressed it in >>24845612
if RR faked the numbers, and then the author got that insane monetary following, that means literally more than HALF of his readers immediately started paying him 10$ a month. it would mean he's a god author. the best to ever do it, ever

>>24845621
Ever heard of FOMO? The writer could've "invested" a ton of their own money into their patreon to fudge the numbers and attract popularity hounds

>>24845630
are you pretending to be retarded as a joke or something

>>24845627
see>>24845627
I just want you to look at these "overnight, out-of-nowhere" a little more critically. I know it's nice to think this is a fair world where people of high merit find themselves in high places but that's not the case

>>24845632
>fraud? don't be silly, that never happens

>>24845635
>*"overnight, out-of-nowhere" sucsess stories

>>24845635
I've looked at it significantly more critically than you have. Like I said you took skepticism to genuine schizophrenia. You have no real argument, just
>the admins on RR faked the numbers
>then the author bought $20,000 of patreon subs across 2000 accounts to astroturf
>and also botted his comment interaction across 4 sites
>and also botted his discord with thousands of users
>and also bots his patreon like/comment ratios
I've realized I'm dealing with someone mentally ill by now, but I'll keep responding, this is really funny

>>24845642
Don't you know what a catalyst is? A little fudging can go a long way. Fake it till you make it as the old cliche goes

>>24845645
Honestly I would appreciate the complete genius needed to fake obviously organic success with absolutely zero flaws. There were no spikes in anything, it was a smooth curving gradient the whole way through.

>>24845645
I think this might be the biggest cope this thread has ever seen

>>24845648
He must have grandmaster attainment in obtaining benefits.

>>24845642
>and also botted his comment interaction across 4 sites
>>and also botted his discord with thousands of users
>>and also bots his patreon like/comment ratios
This part is very easy to do and believable thougheverbeit
Same with the admins faking the numbers, now the money part I have no idea
My best guest is that he actually wrote something good and profitable and with the extra help of the fraud his profits skyrocketed

30k a month is way too small scale to be doing this level of multi-site financial scamming you fucking retards. youtube channels make 100x this easily.
sleyca did something similar, if not as extreme, too. it's genuinely pathetic that you need to mentally check out this hard and blame everything on jews and manipulation. write something people want to read and you can get readers. christ.

>>24845648
Yeah, not saying it's not an impressive feat to successfully fake success. But what appears "obviously organic" to you could be anything but.

>>24845652
I haven't said anything definitive. I'm just thinking outside the box here.

Who the fuck mentioned jews you disingenuous fag?

>>24845665
"Relax. I'm just asking questions, here!"
you do know this shit is mocked even in mainstream channels right

i mentioned jews because you're obviously that type of retard.

>>24845671
Mainstreamers like to mock outside-the-box thinking? Next you're gonna tell me that water is wet.

I'm just asking questions.

We're all asking questions here.

I failed because every single success ever is manipulated, not because I'm a dogshit writer.

>being wary of success stories that come out of nowhere in the age of astroturfing makes you a /pol/tranny
Go back

That success story I wish to replicate is entirely true and leaves nothing out

>Gives a literally schizophrenic 1 in 10 billion possibility to explain a success story that nobody you meet in real life will ever know about
I'm just asking questions.
Unrelated, but why does everyone hate what I write? I know I'm a good author.

>>24845699
Maybe if you thought outside-the-box a little more you'd write more interesting stuff

I write interesting stuff but I get zero readers. Why??? It's good, I promise. Nobody wants to read it but it's good
I think it's the jews

>>24845707
Post it and I'll decide if it's good

I like how passive-aggressive no-reply anon keeps calling me the schizo

I'm just asking questions, stop sperging out, retard

I think this anon is actually a deepstate jew repressing me right now

I have schizo and anti-schizo fatigue

Honestly anyone who chain replies is automatically in the wrong. There are no winners here

>>24845719
I win.

I win.

>>24845708
My favorite anon is the one who begs other anons to post their work even though they're obviously being facetious.

I have never written any creative work in my life but I feel strongly that I could be a successful webslopper if I really felt like it.

I've seen the
>I have no evidence to support it but I would definitely succeed if I tried
statement so much I genuinely feel kind of gross and sad these days

>Websloppers got their thread deleted again
HAHAHAHA

>>24845742
We literally predicted it from moment 1 lol.
Laugh when there's not troll dupes being spawned, otherwise it's a given. /wng/ is only dead once it gets deleted despite being the only one

>websloppers have nowhere else to go but back here
NOOOOOOO

you realize that just means we'll be here, bothering you and shitting on your pretentious wannabe-litfic, right?

>>24845752
honestly I've had so much fun with it I might haunt this thread like the /wg/ troll does ours. even if /wng/ is restored

>>24845747
>>24845240
>he is still coping

>>24845742
But anon... WNG is currently up and running?
>>24845289

>>24845764
well actually I'm >>24845753 so i'm not coping, I'll have plenty of fun shitting up /wg/ if /wng/ goes away. you should be praying it stays because otherwise there's only a 50% chance I permanently fuck your thread from now on. versus a 100%

>>24845741
I'm not like them though. I'm built different.

>>24845769
I'm joining you anon. Never used /wg/ before though so I'll have to lurk for a bit to study the methods

>>24845750
>>24845752
>>24845769
So? This thread was dead anyway
For fuck sake, the first 50 post are retards playing around with a meme IQ calculator

>>24845792

>>24845792

>>24845792

>>24845792
Sorry for making it so soon but I wanted us to have a holiday-themed one before it was too late

>>24845791
>For fuck sake, the first 50 post are retards playing around with a meme IQ calculator
It really was so fucking funny seeing that. Like what the fuck, an anon even posted a random sloppodge of big words and got like 190 IQ and then people kept taking it seriously.
How is the retard thread less retarded??

>>24845798
>t. got "below average"

>>24845812
ill go take the quiz now let's find out

>>24845812
>nigga nigga nigga nigga nigga nigga nigga nigga nigga nigga nigga nigga nigga
- the smartest man to ever live

yeah so the thing is one of your own regulars has been trolling us for months (literally admitted it) which is what creates the animosity
mad that the favor will be returned? cry about it bitch
>you're ruining the thread
be honest. you can't ruin a pile of trash

>>24845824
Bro takes a shit in the street and goes "it's already full of shit anyway"

You know that "regular" is the equivalent of the IRfag here right?
He first started as the genreslopfag, then switched to the antiwnfag until you guys created your own thread and he didn't leave this one either, he is still shitting up this general with the "if you're writing genrefiction you're not a le real writer" spiel
Its not us vs (You)

okay but seriously, why are the jews repressing me?

Jews are like the number one supporters of trans folx, what are you yapping about?

i don't write trans shit that's the whole point. i write interesting fiction but the jews only support mainstream writing. only possible explanation for why wide-appeal stuff blows up. fuck off jews

I would pledge my undying loyalty to Israel and the Jewish people if my writing were shilled relentlessly and I were to become a successful author

>bunkertranny is still at it
We got ourselves a new schizo

Most of you are competent writers, so can I get feedback?
First beat of the first scene in the first chapter.

>>24846378
>shimkur
Stopped reading right there

>>24846378
I don't like the names.
Ren
Shimkur
Aiden
Kaiju

Mira is fine.

>>24846378
>>24846676
Tf is this kaiju shit? Some japs came out with some shitty anime and now it's kaiju this kaiju that. Fuck you.

>94,000 words down
>300,000 to go
I can do it.

why does noone reply to my posts..