Thread 24842144

I was planning on wiring a book with a VERY specific plot only to be told by another anon that some other anon already posted nearly my exact same premise like 11 years ago. This post truly mind fucked me. I genuinely thought I cracked the code when I thought this premise up. How the fuck did this guy from 11 years ago get 85% of my premise already???

>>24842144 (OP)
This is a very generic story anon. If you want to come up with a more original idea you might want to consider hallucinogens.

People were already saying that shit hundreds of years ago. Where's the great neet novel? Where's the one that accurately protrays online communities? I'm sure they exist but nobody's ever gonna read them in a hundred years because they suck.
Who cares if somebody had the same idea as you if nobody's gonna remember that one 4chan post a dude made a decade prior. Also why do I know about this post already? Maybe you saw the same one that I did and thought that was your idea.

>>24842144 (OP)
Have you ever read the story of a man with a loose anus trying to hide it from the world, he's openly gay mind you, but the looseness of his anus and the subsequent diaper dirtening remains hidden.

>>24842418
>Where's the great neet novel?
Oblomov is over 150 years old.

>>24842625
Very little to do with modern hikikomori culture apart from the laziness and the longing for a better time. It's like saying we already have plenty of great novels in texting format because epistolary novels exist. At this point then yes no original story truly exists, but it's stupid.

>>24842144 (OP)
All subtexts have been found, because every human emotion has been recounted. But it's not the emotion that matters, it's the way its told, and your voice to tell it is your own and no one elses.

All that matters now is if you do it "well" enough to be notable.

>>24842144 (OP)
When drilled down to generic details and plot outlines and types of conflicts and all that, yes, every story *type* that you can think of has already been written.

What matters, then, are the finer details - that's where the devil lives, after all.

I'm watching a video on the first two Resident Evil movies and the people ripping on them bring up how in the second movie, Jill Valentine is the hyper-competent main character until Alice shows up at the end of the church setpiece, at which point Jill becomes hyper-incompetent because Alice is the director's OC waifu (and his actual off-screen wife). They even go so far as to say "they should've gotten rid of Jill and just kept Alice as the main character". That isn't to say the movie would've been *better* if Jill was absent and Alice was the main character the whole time, but it would've been a *different* movie. Therein lies the rub: What matters isn't the idea, but the execution.

As another movie example, take the two-fer of asteroid disaster films in 1998, Deep Impact and Armageddon. Both of them had a similar premise - an extinction-level asteroid is hurtling towards Earth with little time to stop it - owing to a Disney exec taking notes during a meeting about Deep Impact and kickstarting production on Armageddon as a counter. But the details show where the films differ despite the similar premises: Whereas Armageddon is a dramatic action film (thanks to Michael Bay) that ends with the asteroid completely destroyed and Earth spared of almost all the negative effects, Deep Impact is more a straightforward drama where the asteroid is broken up but still manages to cause significant damage to several places around the world. The same premise resulted in two entirely different films, and it all stems from the execution of that general premise.

Worry that you're copying someone else's work, yes, but don't worry about being "original". Everything is a remix, dude. Execute the premise with your own details.

>>24842561
have you heard of karma? now you are destined to get anal cancer. congratulations.

stop thinking about making something orginal.
Make something thats good.

Look up a word called "conceit", this is a fancy word for extended metaphor. You can use it to create stories.

An example i use is what if you were gay but in the closet. then write something about that, but cloak it in a metaphor, make the story about a spy who lives a double life

>>24842144 (OP)
No

>>24842144 (OP)
This sort of story is more suited for a screenplay than a novel

>>24842144 (OP)

I can give you a massively well known and popular premise that has never been done in a novel.
Dark souls and Elden ring are 2 very famous video games.
Zero novels exist that are anything like them.
The issue being the entire game is about 1 solo character who has very brief and rare short interactions with a few others for about 5% of the game and has to piece together what the fuck is going in.
If you can write a novel in which your character only talks with others for less than 5% of it, extremely weird and abstract clues about things in the world, and extremely deep and complex concepts behind it all that can never be truely understood, with tons of room for interpretation, then you will have done something never done before.