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Anonymous No.24842353 [Report] >>24842373 >>24842375 >>24842485 >>24843424
What did he mean by "tradition"?
He keeps talking about hiw the east is better than the west because she follows "tradition". He explains what tradition isn't but never what it actually is . Is it just spirituality?
Anonymous No.24842373 [Report] >>24842374 >>24843239
>>24842353 (OP)

René Guénon’s concept of “the Primordial Tradition” (or Tradition primordiale, in French) is one of the central ideas in his metaphysical and esoteric philosophy. It refers to what he believed was the original, universal source of all true spiritual knowledge and wisdom—a divine revelation or supra-human truth that stands behind all authentic religions and sacred traditions.

Here’s a detailed breakdown of what Guénon meant:

1. Definition
The Primordial Tradition is the transcendent and timeless origin of all genuine traditional forms—religions, metaphysics, rites, symbols, and initiatic paths.
It is not a historical tradition, but a metaphysical principle, eternal and outside of time.

For Guénon, this original wisdom:

Comes from a non-human or divine source (i.e., not invented by man).
Contains the complete metaphysical truth about the nature of reality, the cosmos, and the divine.
Was transmitted to humanity at the beginning of the current cycle of manifestation (in Hindu terms, the beginning of the Manvantara).

2. Degeneration and Fragmentation

Over time, according to Guénon, humanity entered into a process of spiritual decline or involution.
The Primordial Tradition fragmented into the various religions and esoteric schools we know today (Hinduism, Taoism, Christianity, Islam, etc.).
Each of these preserved aspects of the original truth, but few retained it in its full, pure form.
Modernity, in Guénon’s view, represents the complete loss of contact with this primordial wisdom—hence his critique of the “Reign of Quantity” (the modern age dominated by materialism and rationalism).

3. Esoteric Unity

Guénon held that behind the apparent diversity of traditional doctrines, there is a universal metaphysical unity:
All authentic traditions express, in symbolic or doctrinal form, the same underlying truth.
The Primordial Tradition is therefore the common root of the world’s great traditional civilizations.
This idea resonates with the Perennial Philosophy (philosophia perennis), though Guénon insisted that his version was rooted in metaphysical certainty, not syncretism.
Anonymous No.24842374 [Report] >>24843239
>>24842373

4. Relation to Initiation and Sacred Knowledge

The Primordial Tradition is accessible only through initiation—that is, through a living, orthodox transmission within a traditional framework (such as Hinduism, Sufism, or esoteric Christianity).
Guénon rejected the idea that one could “reconstruct” or “rediscover” it intellectually; rather, one must be initiated into a chain of transmission (silisila, paramparā, etc.) that ultimately descends from the Primordial Tradition itself.

5. Symbolism and Cyclic Time

Guénon often expressed the Primordial Tradition in symbolic and cyclical terms:
It corresponds to the Golden Age (Satya Yuga) of Hindu cosmology.
Subsequent ages (Silver, Bronze, Iron/Kali Yuga) represent stages of progressive decline or loss of spiritual knowledge.
The task of metaphysics and initiation is to reconnect with that primordial source, transcending temporal decay.

In short:

The Primordial Tradition is the divine, supra-human source of all authentic spiritual knowledge — a timeless revelation that forms the metaphysical root of every true religion and initiatic doctrine.
Modernity’s crisis, for Guénon, lies in its complete rupture with that primordial wisdom.
Anonymous No.24842375 [Report] >>24842899
>>24842353 (OP)
Cheap syncretism
Anonymous No.24842485 [Report]
>>24842353 (OP)
He was presumably referring to the Tradition policy tree in Sid Meier's Civilization V.
Anonymous No.24842519 [Report]
>he didn't start at Introduction to Hindu Doctines
oh là là
Anonymous No.24842899 [Report] >>24845925
>>24842375
Holy shit you’re retarded, it’s literally the opposite of that.
Anonymous No.24843239 [Report]
>>24842373
>>24842374
Thanks GPT
Anonymous No.24843393 [Report] >>24845587
This dude made me realize I might be a lib at heart
>tradition
Who cares man
Anonymous No.24843424 [Report]
>>24842353 (OP)
This is why I can't respect Guenon. He's a cosplayer and or LARPer.
Anonymous No.24844886 [Report]
>everything Guenon likes
tradition
>everything Guenon dislikes
anti-tradition
Anonymous No.24845587 [Report] >>24845925
>>24843393
>Who cares man
People who desire stability and don't worship entropy, libtard.
Anonymous No.24845925 [Report]
>>24842899
That's what traditionalist would like to believe, in reality it Is just the most uninspired, chepest form of syncretism
>>24845587
Guenon Is entropy Made flesh