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Anonymous No.24848223 [Report] >>24848230 >>24848233 >>24848251 >>24848265 >>24848292 >>24848311 >>24848325 >>24848422 >>24848460 >>24849348 >>24850755 >>24853294 >>24854211
>says whales are fish
fucking droped lol
Anonymous No.24848230 [Report]
>>24848223 (OP)
ok
Anonymous No.24848233 [Report]
>>24848223 (OP)
It's a metaphor for how whales aren't actually fish
Anonymous No.24848251 [Report] >>24848258 >>24848288 >>24850633 >>24850925
>>24848223 (OP)
>here's all the scientific facts for why whales should not be considered fish
>but I'm going to call them fish because that's how it is in the Bible
One of the funniest passages in the book desu.

First: The uncertain, unsettled condition of this science of Cetology is in the very vestibule attested by the fact, that in some quarters it still remains a moot point whether a whale be a fish. In his System of Nature, A.D. 1776, Linnæus declares, “I hereby separate the whales from the fish.” But of my own knowledge, I know that down to the year 1850, sharks and shad, alewives and herring, against Linnæus’s express edict, were still found dividing the possession of the same seas with the Leviathan.

The grounds upon which Linnæus would fain have banished the whales from the waters, he states as follows: “On account of their warm bilocular heart, their lungs, their movable eyelids, their hollow ears, penem intrantem feminam mammis lactantem,” and finally, “ex lege naturæ jure meritoque.” I submitted all this to my friends Simeon Macey and Charley Coffin, of Nantucket, both messmates of mine in a certain voyage, and they united in the opinion that the reasons set forth were altogether insufficient. Charley profanely hinted they were humbug.

Be it known that, waiving all argument, I take the good old fashioned ground that the whale is a fish, and call upon holy Jonah to back me.
Anonymous No.24848258 [Report] >>24848264 >>24848288
>>24848251
also saying that sperm whales are the biggest, when blue whales are in fact bigger (which he seems to conflate with fin-backs)
Anonymous No.24848264 [Report]
>>24848258
Blue whales were semi-mythical at the time. We know relatively little about them even today.
Anonymous No.24848265 [Report]
>>24848223 (OP)
My mother is a fish.
Anonymous No.24848288 [Report]
>>24848258
finbacks were the biggest at the time. blue whales weren't quite discovered.

>>24848251
>here's all the scientific facts for why whales should not be considered fish
was why it seemed intentional to me. partly reads as a joke, partly as a continuation of those impossibilities and inconsistencies that signal ishmael's mythologizing, not only painting whales as biblical but also less human.
Anonymous No.24848292 [Report]
>>24848223 (OP)
they thought they were fish back then
Anonymous No.24848311 [Report] >>24848416
>>24848223 (OP)
You know, I always thought the only reason why Moby Dick is filled with pointless whaling trivia was because Melville wanted to publish a book on whaling but either scientific academia (or whatever it equivalent was) thought he was a retard or that there was no public for it.
Anonymous No.24848325 [Report]
>>24848223 (OP)
stfu nerd
Anonymous No.24848416 [Report]
>>24848311
You are the retard.
Anonymous No.24848422 [Report]
>>24848223 (OP)
He knew it would rile up autistic moderns like (You), OP.
Anonymous No.24848460 [Report] >>24850687
>>24848223 (OP)
>droped
Anonymous No.24849348 [Report] >>24850476
>>24848223 (OP)
Melville was right all along, whales are a type of lobe-finned fish
Anonymous No.24850476 [Report]
>>24849348
shut up you clade-loathing freak
Anonymous No.24850633 [Report]
>>24848251
"mammis lactantem" is kind of a clincher t.b.h.
Anonymous No.24850687 [Report]
>>24848460
Kek
Anonymous No.24850755 [Report]
>>24848223 (OP)
"Fish" isn't a real taxonomic clade. There is no consistent line in the sand you can draw to separate "fish" and "not a fish". Either you exclude some things that are very obviously fish, or you include some things that are very obviously not fish. So, by some definitions, a whale is a fish. Even humans can be considered fish. Or not.
Anonymous No.24850840 [Report]
Call me Fishmael.
Anonymous No.24850925 [Report] >>24851046 >>24853089
>>24848251
Phylogenetically, we are fish as are the whales.

After all, we have fish ancestors in common with modern fish and we aren't less related to our fishy ancestors than they are. Either we are fish or these fish aren't fish.
Anonymous No.24851046 [Report]
>>24850925
slimy fins typed this post
Anonymous No.24851071 [Report] >>24851107
Am I a fish?
Anonymous No.24851107 [Report]
>>24851071
Your mother is. Or maybe not? I'm still not clear on the whole whale thing.
Anonymous No.24853089 [Report] >>24853579
>>24850925
>atheists are more likely to (pretend to) believe we descend from fish than acknowledge God's existence
Anonymous No.24853294 [Report]
>>24848223 (OP)
Technically all vertebrates are fish.
Anonymous No.24853579 [Report]
>>24853089
Humans share 70% of their genes with zebrafish.
How does that make you feel?
Anonymous No.24854198 [Report]
The Cetology chapters are a goof—Melville with his dry humor parodying scientific and historical accounts.
Anonymous No.24854211 [Report]
>>24848223 (OP)
Ain't that just like the talentless critic--pointing out the meaningless flaws in other people's work while ignoring the very meaningful ones in your own
Anonymous No.24854237 [Report]
It should be illegal to complain about this classification if you learned it from the internet. Not because Melville didn‘t have that but because you‘re such a faggot if you know one factoid about a topic retrieved specifically to insert as a petty gotcha.