Thread 24865212

What's the best Bible edition?

Douay–Rheims Bible or the Latin Vulgate

>>24865212 (OP)
KJV is the most beautiful read solely for its literary content rather than as a divine scripture

>>24865212 (OP)
If you want to buy one, the Ignatius Catholic Study Bible is the best in terms of cost benefit. It has good quality theological commentary on each part of it.

There is also the Navarre Bible if you have the money and the space for it, which has more commentary.

why don't people use the archive for questions like this?

The upcoming NOAB 6th edition
>b-but it's not even out yet!
Don't care NOAB will always be the GOAT

>>24865303
Because they are "spreading the faith" aka larping.

>>24865212 (OP)
Da jesus book in pidgin

>>24865332
That's a Bible for Atheists, not a Bible for people who want to understand the religious meaning of the Bible.

>>24865212 (OP)
I usually go KJV but I've been reading Robert Alter's translation of the Old Testament and really been enjoying it. What are /lit/'s thoughts on it?

>>24865376
this.
>none of this is true, but here's how you should read it. let's also appeal to a great many "consensus" takes from skeptics with zero evidence for any of them.
the essays are pointless if you want to understand 1st century understanding of things. get a pure cambridge edition kjv and read it along side early church father/historic commentary.

>>24865376
>>24865592
what about the Crossway ESV study bible?

>>24865338
how is it spreading faith when only Christians know translations or care about the topic

>>24865212 (OP)
I'd suggest Robert Alter for the Old Testament, Anna's archive or the very deluxe hardback edition. It's a quite literal and very scholarly rendition of the Masoretic text with great footnotes. It shows what that stories really suppose to mean, but if you want christian dogmatism and bullshit, neither it, nor any other faithful translation like the NRSV is for you.

>>24865398
This anon gets it. Not to say that it's also very beautifully written - Alter's love of the text is obvious.

>>24865896
Study bibles are generally put together by theologians of a particular faith. The ESV is from a Reformed perspective (which I'm part of), so you should probably just get a regular Bible and read it first before you commit to a study Bible, if you're not aligned with any particular denominational beliefs presently. A Catholic study Bible is going to provide Catholic interpretation and commentary, a charismatic study Bible will provide charismatic interpretation and commentary and so on..

I like the Reformation Heritage KJV for a Reformed study Bible over the ESV Study Bible. There's also the Reformation Study Bible, which was largely put together by one of my favorite modern theologians.

>>24865938
The ESV Study Bible is based, though. Certainly can't go wrong. Probably currently the best selling study Bible out there. My main point was to suggest you should probably have some inkling of your beliefs before you choose a study Bible

>>24865938
>>24865953
well I'm reading the ESV so that's why I am leaning towards that Study Bible, I like the headings and the footnotes of the ESV
though I feel like I could use some commentary on certain parts
as to what denomination I'm on, I don't even know, probably a protestant of some kind based on the teachers that I usually get content from

>>24865920
>It shows what that stories really suppose to mean
Christians, Jewish people and Atheists have different interpretations of that.

Jesus has said that Christians should interpret the Old Testament in a different way to the Jewish interpretation.

>>24865904
Because it keeps it showing up on the catalog.
It's like fags in youtube comment sections posting Bible quotes.
People are forced look at your cause = salvation social credit score go up.

>>24865967
Go for it then. The ESV Study Bible is the most uh.. ecumenical of the ones I listed. It doesn't browbeat you with a specific theology. It's very good.

>>24865983
Modern critical scholarship presents a view of the Bible that is unrecognizable to both Christians and Jews of any time period. It's whacko stuff presented as legitimate scholarship.

https://welib.org/search?page=1&q=ESV+Study

https://welib.org/search?page=1&q=Reformation+Heritage+Study

https://welib.org/search?page=1&q=Reformation+Study+Bible

If you'd like to check out my suggestions before purchase.

>>24866024
Yeah.
I don't get why it got any kind of influence.

>>24866006
We're commanded to evangelize, and many Protestants don't believe ANY of our actions curry favor with God, and that faith itself is a gift and example of the Lord's grace, not something we've earned through our works. If you've heard the good news, and believe it, it only follows that you'd want to share it.

>>24865217
james did actually get buggered though

>>24866086
which james and where? you people are out of your minds.

A bible dictionary, atlas, concordance and lexicon are useful tools that are often overlooked today.

>>24866065
One last suggestion

There's many books on the topic, though I'm a big fan of Sproul's, plus there's a lecture series on YouTube to accompany it, but a short text on Biblical interpretation is useful before attempt to read the scriptures.

Sproul's "Knowing Scripture"
https://welib.org/search?q=Knowing+Scripture

The Knowing Scripture lectures
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL30acyfm60fW0rTnBsGGERdIjRCQcSpFp

It explains how different translation methods (word-for-word vs thought-for-thought) shape meaning, how to recognize and interpret the distinct literary forms (narrative, poetry, and letters), and how understanding the historical context and intended audience clarifies a text’s purpose. Also emphasizes using consistent interpretive principles and logical analysis to distinguish what the text actually says from personal or cultural assumptions. Highly recommend it. You can read it in 2 or 3 hours. Sproul was the GOAT of the late 20th/early 21st century theologians. I'm currently working through his "The Consequences of Ideas: Understanding the Concepts that Shaped Our World", where he covers philosophy from a Christian perspective. Another work that has a lecture series available on YT.

>>24865212 (OP)
The one that's not mental gymnastics

>>24866672
fornication anon made a meme. my most favorite of the mentally ill christianposters.

nice work, bud.

>>24865341
>jesus, he da boss

kek praise boss

>>24865212 (OP)
being on the drugs that inspired it in the first place
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MPHyR92MQic

>>24866672
what do you think people generally interpret by "sexual immorality"?

>>24865212 (OP)
KJV
Douay-Rheims
RSV-2CE
ESV
1995 NASB
Jerusalem Bible

Joseph Smith

>>24869085
not even mormons use the JST, which is more like a commentary than anything

>>24869090
I like it because I believe in Joseph Smith

>>24865212 (OP)
Everything available in English is just a translation of The King James Version.

>>24869180
You're not bright.

>>24869137
that doesn't change the fact that we don't use the JST

>>24869208
Prove it.

A Bible that has the 73 canonical books plus the 3 apocryphal books.

>>24869338
What? It does not be 66, or is that the Jerusalem? Don’t apocryphal imply that it is not true, so why?

>>24869348
I’m sorry: I’m having trouble understanding you. What’s your language background?

>>24869348
Apocryphal books aren't considered part of God inspired scripture, each for their own reasons. They range from outright heresy to a lack of provenance. Doesn't necessarily mean they're all without merit, though some certainly are, onl5that they're not part of the "God-breathed" scriptual canon. My favorite apocryphal work, though not considered part of the official apocryphal canon of the Catholics or Eastern Orthodox, is the Didache, which is likely Syrian or Egyptian from the first or second century. It almost made the canon, but my understanding is that there were too many cultural norms (that weren't actually scriptural commands) were included, and there was debate over it's authorship and country of origin. A neat, short early church handbook, though.

>>24869337
Easy, many are based on manuscripts that were unavailable during the 1600s. Many Bibles don't use the TR at all. The idea that all modern Bibles are just translations of the KJV is easily falsifiable, and so anyone confidently claiming otherwise is not a bright person.

>>24865212 (OP)
Any translation that has an imprimatur from the Catholic Church and that you actually read. Deus Vult.

>>24869624
I'd look into the arguments for and against Roman popery, weigh them against scripture and draw your own conclusions first.

>>24869626
I'd do that too but remember only to reject the Roman Catholic Church if you to want to go to Hell for some sadistic reason

>>24869630
I no longer engage with papist nonsense, sorry. I do wish for the best for my Catholic brothers, though.

>>24869626
>let's read the translation of a 2,000 years old Book without understanding the context and without any guidance
Nice idea

>>24869709
No need to distort my stance simply because you disagree with it, God made you more capable than that.

>>24869212
>we don't use the JST
u shoud

>>24869351
Fuck off Glowie!

Thoughts on the Norton critical kjv?

>>24871182
Glowies already know your address; I don’t. If you speak Spanish, ask the question again in Spanish and I can reply in Spanish.

>>24865212 (OP)
old testament only. Build a temple to the demiurge. Hear the voices. Bully the gnostic betas on /x/. Embrace the snake cat. Be the anti-gnostic.

>>24865341
holy kek

I'm stoked about the Berean Bible getting attention, and with the upcoming Humble Lamb Maker edition. The English language benefits greatly from Public domain stuff.

>>24866130
>The Consequences of Ideas

this is actually great as a christian who wants to get into philosophy

start by reading a graphic novel of the bible. there are three good editions out there, and they're quite cheap (the first one I read has more than 800 pages and costs no more than 20 quid), particularly the one with three volumes (hardcover), the kingstone bible.
then read the real thing. it makes it easier.

i've actually become a bible collector. have purchased at least 5 for christmas.