Season 1 Luna was the best.

>>42355991 (OP)
Agree. I do like the old English though.

>>42355991 (OP)
i want to hold her and pet her and tell her that she is the bluest of all ponies :)

>>42355991 (OP)
I was fucking upset when they changed the design.

>1 line
>on screen for about ten seconds total

>>42355991 (OP)
You mean for her 55 seconds of screen time?

>>42356007
I think it was less than that.

>>42355991 (OP)
design doesn't matter when there's no character
S1 Luna is a asset with one line of dialogue and 30 secs of screentime
S2+ Luna speakest in ye olde English, controls the Dreamscape and generally shows herself to be a better princess than the sunbutt

>>42356018
>controls the Dreamscape
Ironically no. Not season 2. It was fandiction in season 2, but not canon until season 3 when Scoots had her dreams.

>>42356018
>better princess than the sunbutt
In what way?
>inb4 jobber, Tia got Worfed

>>42356051
>In what way?
Luna doesn't melt ponies alive with retardedly hot summers no one asked for

>>42356042
>canon
>season 3
>>42355994
Not like you can't have both

>>42356042
>Not season 2
that's why I posted "S2+"
>>42356051
she actually does something on screen instead of being a glorified background pony

>>42355994
I hate Elizabethan English cause it ironically isn't old enough. I want the primitive tribes anglo-saxon English ... albeit today's Britbongs use the English language like they're either immigrants or mental handicaps who never learned English. The amount of vowels, consonants they eat makes me understand why jews mind controlled these anglo+viking retards so easily, they can't even speak their own language properly.

>>42356086
>that's why I posted "S2+"
Tru. Tru.

>>42356073
>Not like you can't have both
You really can't. Gamer Luna, smol Luna, royal Canterlot Luna are all fundamentally different.

>>42356112
>I hate Elizabethan English cause it ironically isn't old enough
my headcanon is that all aspects of pony society is just slower in development compared to humanity (in our case instead of a couple of years early modern English became modern in centuries)

>>42356121
Arguably, but not incompatible. You could lose a little of each to have them all. S2 Luna is already shown to have two personas, so you could fit the S1 Luna stuff more into her familiar persona and the S2 Luna stuff more into her public persona, with an additional formal persona for overflow/transition.
You could argue my first and second posts are fundamentally different, yet they were still made both by me.

>>42355991 (OP)
she only has like 20 seconds of dialogue

I really like her mane!

>>42355991 (OP)
Design wise, she has lethal amounts of cuteness. Char wise, literally only a few lines; the fandom made up the rest.

Honestly, though S1 is my personal favorite, all phases of Luna are the best Luna, including Nightmare Moon. Moon horse is simply best horse.

>>42356344
I would accept a canterlot speaking luna, with a gentler s1 disposition. (I never liked the serious, dark, brooding luna fics and feel that s2 luna made that version).

That's why gamer luna is best luna. Just add a bit of the cute old English but keep her being pranky cute and most of all

BLUE!!

I despite the color shift.

>>42356372
>despite
Despise

>luna was banished to the moon right before she would've hit alicorn puberty
what are the implications of this

>>42356390
She arrived a kissless virgin.

Unf is the implication.

>>42356132
My "head" "canons"
>ponies are a bit like Hobbits in terms of life span & culture. Ponies in undeveloped areas [ie- badlands] have a life expectancy of 96.8 years. Ponies in developed nations, live a ripe age of 200 years.
>granny Smith is just over 200 years old.
>pony society develops slower since they age slower.
>pony culture varies based on whether they're unicorn/pegasus/earth pony.
>shared between the three races culturally, is a love for parties, food, giving/receiving gifts. Much of pony culture revolves around festivities and acts of generosity.
>earth ponies culture skews hard into farming and food cultivation.
>unicorns culture revolves around arts & philosophy.
>Pegasi are sports & war based as a culture.
>ponies speak in either Toki Pona or Esperanto.
>G4 Equestria timeline roughly same as G1.
--- G1 ERA----
>Ancient world was human dominant, by the time of G1 era, ponies and magical sapient creatures are now dominant.
>Humans are an endangered species.
>By the time of G1 era they are semi-mythologized.
>humans and pony kind share a historical bond.
>lots of human mimics running around. They dont really look like humans but will have proportions similar to them at times. Centaurs/minotaurs are human mimics.
>human mimics evolved prior to G1 era to prey on humans and ponies.
>Ancient world is effectively ruled by Grogar and Discord.
>Grogar has a religion that worships him and Discord installed. Earth ponies are majority of followers for this religion.
>Discord controls the natural world in chaos.
>Grogar rules the political world as a dictator.
>ponies are largely nomadic to avoid predation, settlement (permanent or not) typically is in the ruins of human villages/cities/towns. When not living in abandoned human dwellings, they will look for valleys/plains or dense woods to build small, tight knit communities.
>technology from ancient humans developed up to about the time of the early 00s. It still exists *vaguely* in G1 era, televisions and radios for example still run...but not all the time. Internet is sort of there, but is degrading as time goes on. Dial up is the only way to connect. It's in a liminal phase where it works only part of the time and may just stop existing at any moment.
>ponies are aware of the technology, but don't know how to repair or maintain it. No pony settlement has grown enough to sustain a collective interest in repair/maintenance or study.
>ponies however will still occasionally use TV/Radio/Internet as a kind of "hobby", seeing what pops up or can be found during times these technologies function.

>>42356390
>>42356396
add RGRE to get a marecel Luna

>>42356502
>ponies speak in either Toki Pona or Esperanto
definitely toki pona
>use both Latin alphabet and hieroglyphs
>their names have a meaning behind them
>language is lingua franca, all species are able to use it despite obvious differences in their biology

>the only communications technology still functioning reliably, barely, are phones and written letters.
>letters are haphazard- no pony society is large enough or lasts long enough to deliver mail efficiently.
>mail instead is either delivered through unconventional means (animals/etc) or random solitary creatures wanting to imitate role of the "mail man" from former human society.
>very few exist due to dangers present in the G1 Era.
>phones function better than radio/tv/internet but are falling apart. These, letter mail and film reels are the only tech from ancient humans that will continue to G4 era.
>no system of medicine exists in G1, it's either all magic or reuse of medical supplies or medicines from human ruins.
>much of pony society comes from imitating human customs, due to their former close bond as species. By the time of the G1 era, the ponies have evolved roughly their own cultures- but still retain alot of imitation of human activity. None of them really remember or or why they do this.
>Ponies being largely nomadic comes from the fact they are a prey species. They are subject to regular predation from human mimics.
>Dragons are their most prolific issue- Dragons are a solitary species primarily, having started off as human mimics.
>They specialize and predators for Equines and other human mimics, but due to low food supplies, have further evolved to be able to sustain themselves on magically infused minerals (typically gemstones & gold/silver)
>ponies are either getting eaten or enslaved alot of the time.
>ponies due to predation they frequently face, are again, largely nomadic. Traveling between place to place, with very few settling long term.
>because of predation, unpredictable weather, etc, ponies prefer small communities, where they know literally every single member of their tribe intimately.
>as such friendship and harmony is extremely vital in their cultures.
>predation has also lead to some ponies splitting off to involve in environments entirely to avoid predation (IE: Seaponies & Flutterponies.
>ponies will prefer to settle in abandoned human dwellings where possible, but crumbling architecture has lead them to crudely replicate human structures.
>The largest, permanent pony settlements, are Flutter Valley & Dream Valley.
>Dream Valley will become Canterlot in the G4 Era.
>Two species will evolve from Flutterponies- Breezies and Changelings.
>Breezies became small to escape large, slow predators.
>Changelings evolved to predate on ponies and other high magic species due to low food supply in Fluttervalley.
>flutterponies during G1 aren't a predator species yet, but are often more violent than normal ponies.

Her bobcut is the cutest thing ever.

>>42356502
>>granny Smith is just over 200 years old.
This isn't headcanon. It's supported by the show

>>42356537
I love this idea but i also love the idea of Luna not getting modern courtship and just taking stallions like proper royalty.

>>42356018
Original Luna was still better than "oh I'm such a sad angsty retard :("

>>42356821
This. Muh erdgelord quiet brooding mare sux

>>42356537
Meant to respond here earlier oops >>42356502
>a few other territories have become united to Dream Valley to roughly form "pony land".
>ponyland semi-mythical and not densely populated. Again, most ponies are nomadic in this era.
>Tambelon Empire rules over everything, including pony land.
>Grogar is emperor, discord is god.
>Grogar is cruel, but his Empire thrives off the ruins of an ancient human ones and the will of Grogar. Chaos abounds, but enough that life can thrive in it's terror.
>Human mimics *excluding dragons and some solitary or dwindling species (such as graggles) are all attempting to create their own nations and city states. All of them fail and any that last are subject as part of Tambelon Empire.
>ponies just want to stay to themselves for the most part, almost like they're drifting through life.
>no unification if pony tribes- often alot of childish feuds between them. But in the G1 Era pony kind generally "stick by" each other.
>eventually, Grogar's empire is destroyed by Gusty rebelling.
>this has major implications for all creatures- the fall of tambelon leads to a power gap.
>ponies no longer enjoy a cruel emperor allowing their existence, barely, for his amusement.
>Discord assumes role as Sole Emperor and God of the world, to his great amusement.
>now ponies are in a constant swirl of fighting and disharmony. Nowhere is really "safe", and no Empire to live casually within means all their resources are stolen or destroyed by competing species (Human mimics mostly).
>Flutter ponies start their decline to become breezies and changelings.
>Seaponies become lost to another predator species no longer kept in check by Grogar- hippogriff.
>Gusty becomes considered an ethnic hero by some ponies, but traditional earth ponies consider Gusty a terrible traitor.
>all the chaos leads the former nomadic ponies to finally settle down.
>Wendigos become more common- grogar no longer there to stop them- 85 % of human mimics species go extinct. Graggles are wiped out in dream valley.
>Dream Valley & larger ponyland gets forgotten by majority of ponies
>Somewhere along the line hearthswarming story happens- the three fractured tribes unite and reclaim wendigo infested Dream Valley, becoming Canterlot.
>ponies start getting more adept at magic.
>tirec, intoxicated with the idea of becoming a god to rival discord, sets up his own empire. Which us later destroyed by Rainbow Dash's ancestor- Firefly and her friends.

>>42356366
>they are one person
>they are two alone
>they are three together
>they are for each other
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyquqw6GeXk&t=81s

>>42356827
>>42356827
>humans towards the end of the G1 era now extinct, Canterlot exists- ponyland is gradually getting reclaimed by the tribes and a concept emerges of "equestria", from the now philosophically minded and state craft concerned unicorns.
>earth pony religion worshipping grogar and Discord continues on. Traditional religious earth ponies are distrustful of pony-magic, due to traitorous Gusty. They form settlements like ponyville as Earth Pony exclusive villages/cities/etc.
>behavior of tribes still being exclusive after supposed "unification" exists with unicorns and pegasi as well.
>All ponies, except for Grogar-Discord cultists, are wary of disorder/chaos and the "natural" world.
>Discord says lol and just stops the sun and moon in place one day- now falls on ponies to raise and lower both heavenly bodies.
>ponies begin forming natural connections to the world around them instead out of necessity. Seeking to control what little they can.
>ponies gradually develop a semi-racial cast system to organize their lives as much as possible.
>pony castes are divided based on Tribe & Job.
>lowest at the caste are farmers/labor- most of which are earth ponies.
>middle are warriors, most of which are Pegasi.
>topmost are priests/royalty, most of which are unicorns.
----G4----
>Celestia and Luna are born into existence due to the spirit of harmony being totally shattered.
>they grow up under the wiles of discord in a poor unicorn village.
>discord still thoroughly enjoying causing mayhem as he pleases, dwelling in the castle of Tambelon, is beset by Adult Celestia and Luna. Who swear to overthrow him in the name of harmony
>Discord is then banished, much to his surprise, bound in stone.
>his kingdom, The ruins of Tambelon, becomes part of the Equestrian Empire. His castle becomes the castle of the two sisters.
>Celestia and Luna establish and unify the three pony races.
>earth ponies who follow the old religion consider Celestia and Luna to be tyrant Usurpers, they pray for the return of chaos and grogar.
>Equestria no longer has a "natural" environment, partially due to the banishment of discord. Everything is now reduced to pony control, save for one area- the everfree forest.
>discord left one daughter, an earth pony blessed with the same magic as him. Named screwball.
>Some earth pony followers of the old religion consider her the proper heir to the tambelon empire they hope to restore.
>just before the rise of nightmare moon, ponies establish a working mail system. Telephones are still in circulation, but now using magic instead of electricity. Most ponies prefer mail for symbolic reasons.
>humans completely forgotten/relegated as mythological creatures.
>nightmare moon occurs- Celestia banishes her and loses the powers of the elements of harmony, resulting further in a permanently "stagnant" world. Harmony and disharmony have to be managed by ponies in every facet of life.

>>42356942
>with no balance between the two, the world keeps trying to balance them out.
>Celestia by this point has already started a formalized religion on "harmony", ponies see her as head of it.
>Celestia tries to revitalize "friendship magic", with small success. Equestria is a stable nation spanning the world, where most others not part of it, are struggling or non existent.
----Miscellaneous-----
>since G1 Era, ponies are capable of "ascension", not typically to alicornhood, but to a kind of fully realized magic potential. The elements are the most primal example of that.
>some ascended ponies left to become space ponies- living in the cold of space willingly in houses made of stars and starlight. Galaxy is one of them.
>Space ponies retain their own unique culture and nomadic roots, they are never seen again after the total collapse of Tambelon.
>Celestia eats sweet foods to cope with her horrendous depression and PTSD.
>Luna during her banishment always wanted to see a space pony- never did.
>Luna never lost her S1 design.
>Luna is more regal and thinner than her sister, but also more shy...and easily jealous.
>Luna enjoys games alot.
>Pinkie pie's family are followers of the old grogar-discord religion. She's not open about this, still follows some tenets of it privately, but publically adheres to harmony/princess worship.
>kings, queens and emperors don't exist in Equestria, only princesses and princes or lesser royal titles. This is due to fear of the old ways of pre-Equestria being installed into ponies.
>Followers of the old religion speak in an archaic language- probably Esperanto?
>modern ponies speak in Toki Pona
>Rarity is dirt fucking poor, which is why she lives in Ponyville.
>Twilight is rich and enjoys slumming it up with the poor of ponyville.
>G1/2 media exist in Equestria as propaganda.
>Twilight never becomes an alicorn- instead becomes an ascended unicorn.
>Cadence isn't an alicorn, she's an ascended pegasus.
>G4 is released as propaganda in Equestria after Celestia Abdicates her throne.
>Celestia and Luna abdicate their throne to push a model of society that is less hierarchical and more horizontally structured, setting up Twilight to teach the philosophy of friendship & harmony, her and her six friends assume celebrity-religious leader status.
>no cheese sandwich.

>>42355991 (OP)
I said it in another thread before and I'll say it again, there should've been episodes where Celestia called Twilight to help Luna readust to society when she's too busy to do it herself

>>42357059
>starlight exists and never gets fully redeemed. She's the equivalent of pony Joseph Smith, her equality cult is effectively Equestrian Socialist Mormonism.
>ponies still have a vague sense of casteism based off special talent, name & tribe...but this is fading out as the friendship/harmony religion becomes common.
>discord redeemed, but stays distant to ponies mostly. Has a close friendship with Ponka, who may or may not be secretly hoping he takes over Equestria in a brutal storm of chocolate milk rain.
>>42356553
That's my thought as well- also aligns philosophically with g4 ponies really well.
---
OK autism done.

>>42355991 (OP)
Was there other Luna?

>>42357091
What about Crystal Empire?

>>42357294
Was gonna actually write about that but tempered my autism for the sake of all anons.
My headcanon is that crystal empire was likely Fluttervalley in its early days of the G1 era. Once the fall of tambelon happens, the flutterponies are living with remnants of early pony society. Flutterponies grow low on food, chrysalis- a flutter pony- becomes the first real changeling. The flutterponies under her sway grow corrupted, but they dont become true changelings for many generations.
The flutterponies (now changelings & early breezies) migrate out once the corrupted flutterponies drain the majority of the normal pony citizens of love. The ponies who survive prior to the migration evolve to become "crystal ponies" - their crystal coats are a faux chitin that were meant to help them blend in with younger flutterponies who hadnt matured their wings yet.
The breezies migrate to find something new, the changelings to look for new food sources. The crystal ponies take over Fluttervalley and rename it the Crystal Empire. The crystal empire follows a similar plot as the comics with some differences- King Sombra and the shadow ponies are another species trying to install their own version of tambelon. King sombra enslaved the crystal ponies and used their rich magic inherited from the flutterponies of yore and their current evolution, to attempt to conquer the world. Crystal ponies already had a concept similar to "juche" of north Korea due to their experience from the flutter-changelings. Sombra just took advantage of this and promised he'd remake the world for crystal ponies.
While extending his armies outwards, he keeps the heart of his would be empire, the crystal kingdom, isolated. Sombra becomes megalomaniacal and convinced he will be the savior of the shadow ponies and the one to make a new world. Crystal ponies have their worst nightmares fed in while he abuses them on a social level.
His reign lasts several years and does not stop until Celestia and Luna attempt to kill him. Which then launches the Crystal Kingdom into a total isolationist phase. Partially of their own will, partially on the will of Sombra.
Cadence is made the ruler as a show of symbolic power- yet again showing the will of harmony triumphant over the ways of the old world.

Bump for abacus fan art

>>42358260

>>42358260
Here you go, anon.
>>42357091
Those words make me feel good things. Holy shit I wish I understood ponies properly so much.

>>42358264
>>42359026
Thanks but some oc in current year would be nice too

Her color palette is simply superior.

>>42360731
This is undeniable. I don't even care about the size level up or voice changes. But the color was simply a lose

>>42360731
It's crazy to me nobody has ever edited Luna episodes to maintain her S1 design.

>>42355994
>Old English Luna
>"Se gamenung wæron twifealdede!"

>>42360731
Truth.

>>42361216
Bronies are lazy fucks who refuse to recycle.

>>42361280
She was still cute but why did they darken her?

>>42364224
I assumed at the time that she went through rapid aging after being freed of the darkness.

Hasbro are such weird fucks.

>>42364288
>you slowly nig as you age but can rapidly nig
Wut?

>>42365876
>blue is nigger
go back

>>42365882
>Luna melanated

Why did Hasbro just make her base design a Celestia palette instead of sticking with her unique look? I thought the whole point was the moon is obviously not on the same level as the sun which meant that instead of a flowing mane, she has a small little pixie cut.

>>42365888
It is a well-known fact that Hasbro hates money and the executives continually make the wrong decision whenever standing at a crossroads with the company's direction.

>>42366028
>"Hasbro is the only group of Jews in the world who hate money." -Anonymous